Veterans Mental Health Care

Dec 12, 2007

House Committee Veterans Affairs

The House Committee on Veterans' Affairs held a hearing to examine and identify mental health challenges within the Department of Veterans Affairs health care system, including increasing numbers of cases of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), suicide, substance abuse, and homelessness. Witnesses included the parents of Specialist Tim Bowman .. Read More
The House Committee on Veterans' Affairs held a hearing to examine and identify mental health challenges within the Department of Veterans Affairs health care system, including increasing numbers of cases of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), suicide, substance abuse, and homelessness. Witnesses included the parents of Specialist Tim Bowman (U.S. Army, Illinois National Guard, Bravo Troop, 106th Calvary), who committed suicide, authors with personal connections to the problem, and representatives of the Department of Veterans Affairs. Due to the length of testimony some other witness were deferred to a later hearing. Penny Coleman is the author of Flashback: Posttraumatic Stress Disorder, Suicide, And the Lessons of War, published by Beacon Press, Ilona Meagher is the author of Moving a Nation to Care: Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder and America's Returning Troops, published by Ig Publishing.

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00:00:07 none NOW A HOUSE PANEL LOOKS AT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AFFECTING VETERANS RETURNING FROM COMBAT. HEALTH SPECIALISTS...
00:00:28 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative THIS MEETING OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEE ON VETERANS AFFAIRS IS CALLED TO ORDER. WE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENDANCE...
00:07:37 Buyer, Steve "Stephen"U.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SOME OF THE WITNESSES HAVE BEEN PERSONALLY DEVASTATED BY THE LOSS OF A LOVED...
00:14:17 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative OUR FIRST PANEL WILL BE MR. AND MRS. MIKE BOWMAN WHOSE SON, TIM, FROM THE SIXTH CALVARY COMMITTED...
00:15:09 Boswell, Leonard L.U.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I APPRECIATE YOU HOLDING THIS HEARING AND YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE AND...
00:18:06 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. BOSWELL, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE.
00:18:18 Manzullo, DonaldU.S. Representative I WANT TO INTRODUCE THREE CONSTITUENTS TO BE TESTIFYING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE TODAY. WE ARE JOINED...
00:20:06 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative THANK YOU. MR. AND MRS. BOWMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. AND HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO...
00:21:00 Bowman, MikeFather MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, MY WIFE AND I ARE HONORED TO BE SPEAKING REPRESENTING JUST...
00:30:24 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative BANK FOR BEING HERE -- THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
00:30:33 Michaud, MichaelU.S. Representative AND THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR HAVING THIS VERY IMPORTANT AND TIMELY HEARING TODAY. IT IS GOING...
00:31:48 Michaud, MichaelU.S. Representative -- OR ENCOURAGE HIM TO GET HELP?
00:31:54 Bowman, MikeFather HE WAS A VERY SMART KID AND AS SOON AS HE WAS START TO OPEN UP ABOUT A SITUATION WHERE HE THOUGHT...
00:33:58 Michaud, MichaelU.S. Representative NOT KNOWING WHERE YOU LIVE IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE HOSPITAL, AND THEN PROVIDING THE RESOURCES TO THIS...
00:34:59 Bowman, MikeFather I WOULD SAY, YES. AS IN THE CASE OF TIM, MANY OF HIS UNIT BUDDIES ARE A VERY WELL CONNECTED AND THEY...
00:37:31 Michaud, MichaelU.S. Representative I WANT TO DO SOMETHING POSITIVE AND PRODUCTIVE FOR YOU. WE THINK FOR COMING. -- WE THANK YOU FOR COMING....
00:37:47 Brown-Waite, GinnyU.S. Representative MR. AND MRS. BOWMAN, ALL OF US HERE WHO ARE PARENTS CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LOSE A CHILD....
00:39:04 Bowman, MikeFather THE HUNDRED AND 18 SOLDIERS THAT WERE IN F 202 HAVE BASICALLY ADOPTED US. -- THE 118 SOLDIERS. I...
00:40:35 Brown-Waite, GinnyU.S. Representative PLEASE DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND ME, I AM JUST SAYING WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE POLICY. I WILL CERTAINLY CHECK...
00:42:39 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative BY THE WAY, I WOULD CONCENTRATE ON THE OFFICIAL RECORDS AND WHETHER THERE STILL ARE NOT. THE KNOWLEDGE...
00:43:21 Bowman, MikeFather THAT IS VERY TRUE. ESPECIALLY IN A NATIONAL GUARD UNIT BECAUSE TRADITIONALLY THOSE MEN ARE CLOSER...
00:43:37 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative I KNOW THAT THEY LIVE IN YOUR DISTRICT.
00:43:40 Hare, PhilU.S. Representative I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURAGE IN COMING TODAY AND TELLING THE STORY ABOUT YOUR SON. I HAD THE...
00:46:34 Bowman, MikeFather OF THE REDEPLOYMENT PROCESS, BASICALLY WE INTEGRATING BACK INTO SOCIETY. YOU'RE TALKING TO THE CHAIRMAN...
00:49:50 Stearns, CliffordU.S. Representative WITH REGARD TONO CARRIERRINGCONNECT 1200 COMMENTS OF MY COLLEAGUES AND WE ARE VERY SURLY FOR THIS TRAGEDY....
00:52:28 Bowman, KimMother IT IS LIKE MY HUSBAND SAID. IF WE WOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN SOME KIND OF A PROGRAM WHERE WE HAD...
00:53:00 Stearns, CliffordU.S. Representative I HAVE BEEN IN HEARINGS LIKE THIS, I THINK IN CONSUMER PROTECTION AND TRADE AND WE DO WITH FAMILIES...
00:53:40 Bowman, KimMother HE DID NOT ASK FOR MEDICATION.
00:53:42 Stearns, CliffordU.S. Representative WAS THEIR REASON?
00:53:44 Bowman, KimMother HE DID NOT REALIZE THE PROBLEM.
00:53:47 Stearns, CliffordU.S. Representative HE DID NOT EVEN REALIZE THAT THIS WAS AFFECTING HIM AND HE WAS NOT RECEPTIVE TO COUNSELING OR TO MEDICATION?...
00:53:53 Bowman, KimMother NO.
00:53:55 Stearns, CliffordU.S. Representative OK. LAST THING, DID HE HAVE A HIGH- SCHOOL DEGREE?
00:54:00 Bowman, KimMother YES.
00:54:04 Stearns, CliffordU.S. Representative ONCE THOSE THREE ARE IN PLACE AND THE BUILDING OF THE SELF- ESTEEM IS THE KEY AND THE PARENTS SOMEHOW...
00:55:10 Bowman, MikeFather THE ONLY INFORMATION THAT WE THOUGHT THAT WAS LIKE A MANDATORY NATURE, BEFORE YOU COULD DO ANYTHING,...
00:57:28 Stearns, CliffordU.S. Representative A POINT IN PASSING, THERE ARE WRITTEN TESTS THAT SOLDIERS CAN TAKE WHEN THEY GET OUT THAT ONCE THEY...
00:57:51 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative WE HAVE LOTS OF EVIDENCE THAT THOSE ARE NOT FILLED OUT ACCURATELY BECAUSE THE SOLDIER KNOWS THAT IF...
00:58:31 Stearns, CliffordU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
00:58:36 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative MR. RODRIGUEZ, HE WAS A PROFESSIONAL HEALTH WORKER.
00:58:41 Rodriguez, CiroU.S. Representative FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TEST WOULD TESTIMONY. IT IS DIFFICULT AND ALSO HARD TO ...
01:01:25 Bowman, MikeFather THEY CAME HOME IN MARCH OF 2005. HE DIED ON NOVEMBER 24TH OF 2005. HE WAS ONLY HOME FOR 8 MONTHS ...
01:03:24 Rodriguez, CiroU.S. Representative THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. I WANT TO TAKE THIS PRIVILEGE TO RECOGNIZE [UNINTELLIGIBLE] WHO IS HERE...
01:04:09 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. RODRIGUEZ.
01:04:12 Boozman, JohnU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY, IT WAS VERY HELPFUL. WE CERTAINLY...
01:05:51 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. IT WAS VERY HELPFUL THE COLLEAGUE FROM RONA ISLAND, MR....
01:06:21 Mitchell, Harry E.U.S. Representative THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. FIRST, I WANT TO OFFER YOU MY CONDOLENCES. YOU SPOKE IN YOUR TESTIMONY ABOUT...
01:06:49 Bowman, MikeFather MY WIFE CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT WHEN I SAW DR. KATZ'S REACTION ON THE TV WAS -- THE FIRST TO HAVE...
01:07:33 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, MR. MITCHELL.
01:07:37 Berkley, ShelleyU.S. Representative I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE SCHEDULED THIS HEARING AND I APPRECIATE MR. AND MRS. BOWMAN FOR...
01:10:16 Bowman, MikeFather YOU ARE RIGHT THERE.
01:10:19 Berkley, ShelleyU.S. Representative I CAME FROM THE VIETNAM ERA. THAT WAS MY WAR. I WAS IN COLLEGE. I NEED WITH MY VIETNAM VETS ALL THE...
01:14:42 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. MCINERNEY?
01:14:44 McNerney, JerryU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I WANT TO THINK THE BOMB WENT FOR THEIR COURAGE...
01:15:17 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative THANK YOU. MR. WALZ, WHO -- I JUST WANT TO TELL THE BOWMANS HE IS THE HIGHEST DECORATED MAN TO A EVER...
01:15:51 Walz, Timothy "Tim"U.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND THANK YOU, MR. AND MRS. BAMANN FOR BEING HERE. THERE ARE NO WORDS THAT...
01:20:10 Bowman, KimMother ABSOLUTELY.
01:20:13 Bowman, MikeFather AND YOU NEED TO BRING ALL OF THE SOLDIERS IN. ONE OF THE STIGMAS THAT HAS BEEN HELD UP, ESPECIALLY...
01:20:59 Walz, Timothy "Tim"U.S. Representative ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, THERE IS A GROUP BEHIND YOU -- THIS GROUP SITTING OUT HERE. THEY...
01:21:30 Hall, JohnU.S. Representative THANK YOU BOTH, MR. AND MRS. BOWMAN FOR COMING HERE. MY CONDOLENCES FOR YOUR LOSS AND MY THANKS TO...
01:23:01 Bowman, MikeFather I THINK ANYTHING THAT GETS IT TO -- THAT MAKES THE TERM SOMETHING THAT IS NOT PERMANENT. THE TERM...
01:23:44 Hall, JohnU.S. Representative THANK YOU, AND I THINK IS IMPORTANT THAT UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT, WE NOT REDEPLOY INTO COMBAT...
01:26:15 Snyder, VicU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN FOR THIS DISCUSSION TODAY. I WANT TO THANK THE BOTH OF YOU, AS OTHERS HAVE,...
01:28:23 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative MR. KENNEDY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON MENTAL HEALTH PARITY. YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THESE ISSUES...
01:28:37 Kennedy, PatrickU.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I ALSO WANT TO JOIN MY COLLEAGUES IN OFFERING MY CONDOLENCES TO YOU FOR YOUR...
01:33:05 Bowman, MikeFather AS FAR AS THE V.A. HEALTH FOR THE FAMILIES, I HAVE NEVER SEEN A BA PERSON APPROACHED ME IN MY ENTIRE...
01:34:11 Kennedy, PatrickU.S. Representative AND YOU THINK THESE FAMILIES COULD BE A BIG HELP TO A RETURNING VETERAN IF THEY KNEW IN ADVANCE MORE...
01:34:29 Bowman, MikeFather ESPECIALLY WITH GUARD AND RESERVE. WE SAW IT WITH HIM AND WE HAVE SEEN IT WITH OTHER GUARDSMEN. THEY...
01:35:09 Bowman, KimMother AND WE, OURSELVES, CHOSE TO GO ON OUR OWN AND GET GRIEF COUNSELING, AS WELL AS OUR DAUGHTER. AND HAS...
01:35:19 Bowman, MikeFather AND MENTAL HEALTH CARE -- WE DISCUSSED THIS EARLIER. I WENT TO OUR LOCAL MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION,...
01:36:25 Kennedy, PatrickU.S. Representative YOU JUST MADE A GREAT CASE FOR MENTAL HEALTH PARITY. WE WILL WORK ON THAT.
01:36:32 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative THANK YOU, MR. KENNEDY. MR. BUCHANAN? MR. BULL YOUR?
01:36:42 Buyer, Steve "Stephen"U.S. Representative THANK YOU, VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN ASSOCIATION TOWARD THE COMMENTS OF DR....
01:41:49 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative SINCE SCSI IS SUCH A SUCCESSFUL TELEVISION PROGRAM, COMBAT INJURIES PRETTY DESCRIPTIVE. BUT IT IS...
01:42:02 Bowman, MikeFather ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TO CHANGE THE TERM IS DO IT RIGHT NOW.
01:42:07 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative A CAKE, WE WILL TALK ABOUT C S I, COMBAT STRESS INJURY.
01:42:14 Hare, PhilU.S. Representative WOULD YOU INDULGE ME FOR AS A SECOND?
01:42:15 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative YEAH.
01:42:18 Hare, PhilU.S. Representative LET ME JUST SAY YOU -- SAY THIS TO ALL OF YOU. AND I APPRECIATE THE RANKING MENU -- MEMBER, BUT FIGURES...
01:43:36 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS SINCE TIMOTHY'S DEBT. YOUR VERY ARTICULATE AND YOU HAVE HELPED...
01:47:43 Bowman, MikeFather JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. WE ARE TRULY HONORED TO BE HERE TODAY. WE DECIDED THAT AFTER TIM DIED AT...
01:50:07 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative THANK YOU AND YOU HAVE HONORED YOUR SON AND YOUR FAMILY. WE THANK YOU SO MUCH.
01:50:11 Bowman, KimMother THANK YOU.
01:50:14 Coleman, PennyAuthor WE WILL ASK THE SECOND PANEL TO COME FORWARD. RETURNED FROM VIETNAM AND I MARRIED HIM A YEAR LATER....
01:55:28 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN?
01:55:31 Coleman, PennyAuthor WHICH PEACE, THE LAST PARAGRAPH?
01:55:34 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative WHAT WAS THE STEADY?
01:55:36 Coleman, PennyAuthor THE NATIONAL VIETNAM VETERANS READJUSTMENT STUDY, WHICH CLAIMED TO BE THE BIGGEST STUDY THAT HAD EVER...
01:55:51 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative YEAH.
01:55:54 Coleman, PennyAuthor NEVER MENTIONED SUICIDE.
01:55:57 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative WHAT YEAR WAS THAT?
01:55:58 Coleman, PennyAuthor 1990. THE RESEARCH WAS DONE BETWEEN 1986 AND 1988, I BELIEVE.
01:56:05 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative THANK YOU.
01:56:10 Coleman, PennyAuthor THE U.S. INVENTED -- INVADED IRAQ IN MARCH OF 2003 AND BY AUGUST, SO MANY AMERICAN SOLDIERS HAD KILLED...
02:02:42 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative THANK YOU.
02:02:49 Meagher, IlonaAuthor THANK YOU. I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU TODAY. I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY SHARE...
02:11:36 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH. MR. SCHNEIDER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
02:11:43 Snyder, VicU.S. Representative I WAS BROWSING THROUGH YOUR BOOK. I WANTED TO ASK, MA'AM, DID A SERIES IN YOUR STATEMENT OF A VERY...
02:13:35 Meagher, IlonaAuthor I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS, BECAUSE I APPROACH THIS FROM -- I AM A VETERANS DAUGHTER. BUT I AM A CONCERNED...
02:15:08 Snyder, VicU.S. Representative I THINK OF THINGS -- YOU MENTIONED YOUR FATHER. TODAY MY FATHERMY FATHER DIED HE WAS ONE OF THE GUISE...
02:17:08 Meagher, IlonaAuthor I WOULD HAVE DONE IT MYSELF IF I HAD ONLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK THIS CAN BE EASILY DONE....
02:17:55 Snyder, VicU.S. Representative THE PROBLEM WE HAVE RUN INTO WITH OUR RESERVE COMPONENT IN ARKANSAS IS THAT IT MAY COME FROM COMMUNITIES...
02:18:37 Coleman, PennyAuthor ONE OF THE SADDEST THINGS ABOUT THIS WAR IS THE FACT WE HAD BEEN INVITED NOT TO PARTICIPATE. IN BOTH...
02:19:26 Snyder, VicU.S. Representative THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE.
02:19:31 Herseth, StephanieU.S. Representative THANK YOU TO BOTH OF YOU. I WAS GOING TO POSE A QUESTION WITH REGARD TO WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN OR IN YOUR...
02:22:11 Coleman, PennyAuthor THE INFORMATION ABOUT ACTIVE- DUTY TROOPS HAS BEEN VERY HARD TO GET AHOLD OF. NEWSPAPER REPORTERS...
02:23:10 Meagher, IlonaAuthor THERE ARE SPECIFIC STATISTICS AND SPECIFIC CHANGES AND DIFFERENCES AS FAR AS GUARD AND RESERVE TROOPS,...
02:25:14 Coleman, PennyAuthor SUICIDE STATISTICS ARE DIFFICULT TO GATHER. THE CDC SAYS THEY EXPECT IT IS EITHER BETWEEN 10% AND...
02:26:26 Herseth, StephanieU.S. Representative THANK YOU BOTH.
02:26:27 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative MR. KENNEDY.
02:26:29 Kennedy, PatrickU.S. Representative THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON MY INITIAL STATEMENT WHEN WE WERE SPEAKING WITH THE BOWMANS,...
02:29:56 Coleman, PennyAuthor THE AUSTRALIANS DID THAT.
02:29:59 Kennedy, PatrickU.S. Representative CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT? WE HAVE A WHOLE GENERATION OF CHILDREN OF THESE VETERANS AND THEY HAVE BEEN...
02:30:27 Coleman, PennyAuthor AFTER THE WAR IN VIETNAM 20 YEARS AFTER THE WAR IN VIETNAM THE AUSTRALIANS CREATED WHAT THEY CALLED...
02:31:00 Meagher, IlonaAuthor THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS, THE SECONDARY PT AS THESD. A CLUSTER OF SUICIDES THAT TOOK PLACE IN FORT...
02:33:13 Kennedy, PatrickU.S. Representative I APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING THE PSYCHOLOGICAL KEVLAR ACT. THAT IS MY BILL. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT...
02:33:49 Coleman, PennyAuthor WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME STATISTICS HERE.
02:33:54 Kennedy, PatrickU.S. Representative WHETHER THIS IS A QUESTION OF THE VETERANS DEPARTMENT, IT SEEMS IT IS A QUESTION OF OUR NATIONAL INTEREST....
02:34:20 Coleman, PennyAuthor ABOUT THIS BEING REALLY IMPORTANT, THAT WOULD FOCUS ON PREVENTIVE CARE, IT SEEMS TO ME -- THINK ABOUT...
02:35:48 Kennedy, PatrickU.S. Representative THANK YOU.
02:35:51 Buyer, Steve "Stephen"U.S. Representative I WOULD LIKE YOU TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION WE OBTAINED TO HELP PREPARE FOR THIS HEARING, WE GOT READILY...
02:42:28 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative THANK YOU. I WISH COMMANDERS WERE AS OPEN AS YOU SUGGEST. MR. KENNEDY.
02:42:39 Kennedy, PatrickU.S. Representative IN TERMS OF -- WE'RE WORKING ON A NETWORK OF CARE, INTERNET- BASED COMPREHENSIVE RESOURCE FOR THOSE...
02:43:02 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative I WANT TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO COMMENT ON THE DATA QUESTION. IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT THIS DATA...
02:43:59 Meagher, IlonaAuthor I CAN SAY THIS, THAT SINCE I AM JUST A PRIVATE CITIZEN WHO IN 2005 WAS INTERESTED IN THE TOPIC AND...
02:45:39 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative SO WE SHOULD TRY IT IN THE CORRECTIONS SYSTEM, ALSO, AND WE'RE NOT.
02:45:41 Meagher, IlonaAuthor YES. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS COMMUNITIES CAN DO. I HAVE ALREADY SEEN THEM HAPPEN IN MY AREA...
02:46:37 Kennedy, PatrickU.S. Representative IN MY STATE, MY MUNICIPAL POLICE ACADEMIES HAVE GOTTEN TOGETHER AND PUT THEIR OWN DEBRIEFING PROGRAM...
02:47:28 Coleman, PennyAuthor IN AUGUST OF 2007 THE ARMY RELEASED A 165-PAGE SUICIDE EVENT REPORT FOR THE YEAR 2006. THAT WAS DESCRIBED...
02:48:49 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. THERE'S LOTS OF MOVEMENT HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE VOTES OVER ON...
02:50:32 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative I APOLOGIZE TO OUR WITNESSES FOR THE RECESS. ALSO, WE TRIED TO DO TOO MUCH IN ONE DAY. I THINK WITH...
02:51:33 Katz, Ira R.Deputy Chief THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I WANT TO BEGIN BY EXPRESSING MY MOST PROFOUND...
02:55:14 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative I AM SORRY TO INTERRUPT, MR. KATZ, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCLUSION THAT THOSE IN GREATEST NEED...
02:55:58 Katz, Ira R.Deputy Chief I WILL TAKE THE QUESTION FOR THE RECORD AND GET BACK TO YOU AFTER THE HEARING.
02:56:03 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative WHY? I'M JUST ASKING, YOU MADE A CONCLUSION WHICH I THINK IS WRONG. AND YOU CANNOT ARGUE FOR IT.
02:56:15 Katz, Ira R.Deputy Chief THOSE WHO COME, FOR EXAMPLE THERE IS A DEMOCRATICDEMOCRATIC ISSUE, BUT MOST OF THOSE WHO COME FOR...
02:56:33 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative YOU HAVE NO BASIS FOR MAKING THAT STATEMENT. AGAIN, THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO ARGUMENTS THAT...
02:56:59 Katz, Ira R.Deputy Chief AND NOT JUST AN ASSUMPTION. THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN NEED WHO DO NOT COME...
02:57:24 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative BUT THOSE WHO DO NOT COME COULD BE EVEN GREATER. YOU SAY THE REVERSE HERE. AND I DO NOT KNOW ON WHAT...
02:58:03 Katz, Ira R.Deputy Chief SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO GET BACK TO YOU ABOUT YOUR CONCERNS, BUT I WANT TO STRESS THAT THE ISSUE IS PREVENTION....
02:58:17 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS ARGUING THE RATE. EVERY ONE OF YOUR PARAGRAPHS ENDS WITH A THING ABOUT THE...
02:58:33 Katz, Ira R.Deputy Chief I WILL TELL YOU. KARR SUICIDE PREVENTION ACTIVITIES ARE BASED ON THE PRINCIPLE THAT DECREASING SUICIDE...
03:00:37 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative AND SUICIDES AMONG EXPOSED?
03:00:41 Katz, Ira R.Deputy Chief IN OUR CURRENT FOLLOW-UP WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY.
03:00:50 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative 6000 CALLS AND YOU'RE GIVING ME ALL OF THIS DATA, BUT YOU HAVE NOT SEEN OR YOU DO NOT KNOW IF THERE...
03:00:58 Katz, Ira R.Deputy Chief WE ARE DOING FOLLOW-UP OF THOSE WHO HAVE CALLED AND THE RESULTS FROM THE FOLLOW-UPS WILL BE AVAILABLE...
03:01:10 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative THESE ARE OBVIOUS QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU DON'T HAVE THEM BEFORE YOU COME IN. YOU GIVE US...
03:01:39 Katz, Ira R.Deputy Chief SIR, WITH PERMISSION I COULD SEND TO YOU THE STORIES OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CALLED THE HOTLINE...
03:01:52 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative I AM NOT ARGUING THAT AT ALL. IF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE DOING THIS ARE WONDERFUL AND DEDICATED PEOPLE...
03:02:39 Katz, Ira R.Deputy Chief VA HAS A MAJOR SUICIDE PREVENTION PROGRAM, THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE IN THE NATION. THE NUMBERS, FRANKLY,...
03:02:49 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative WOULD IT WAS 3000, WITH IT WAS 1000, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?
03:02:53 Katz, Ira R.Deputy Chief IF THE NUMBER WERE 300 WE WOULD STILL BE DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE.
03:02:57 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative BUT YOU ARE NOT REFERRING TO WHY DO THOSE 6000 EXIST? WITH ALL OF THIS WORK YOU ARE DOING? WHAT IS...
03:03:15 Katz, Ira R.Deputy Chief THE 6000 EXIST BECAUSE MENTAL ILLNESS IS A REAL ILLNESS AND MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS CAN BE FATAL...
03:04:05 Katz, Ira R.Deputy Chief SIR, PATRICK KENNEDY SPOKE ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH IN AMERICA AND HE IS RIGHTV. . VA HE IS . IS AHEAD...
03:04:22 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative I ACCEPT THAT. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE 6000 VETERANS WHO COMMITTED SUICIDE LAST YEAR AND THE 6000 THE...
03:04:34 Katz, Ira R.Deputy Chief THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THE FOREMOST RESEARCHERS IN AMERICA WORKING ON THIS PROBLEM. THAT IS WHY OUR MENTAL...
03:04:47 Filner, Robert "Bob"U.S. Representative I UNDERSTAND. BUT IF YOU IGNORE THESE ISSUES IN A REPORT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOUR...

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