Q&A with Clarence Thomas

Oct 3, 2007

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Justice Clarence Thomas talked about his book My Grandfather's Son: A Memoir, published by Harper. Justice Thomas was nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court by former President George H.W. Bush and has been on the Court since October 1991. He talked about the development of his political philosophy, people who had influenced him, his reading .. Read More
Justice Clarence Thomas talked about his book My Grandfather's Son: A Memoir, published by Harper. Justice Thomas was nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court by former President George H.W. Bush and has been on the Court since October 1991. He talked about the development of his political philosophy, people who had influenced him, his reading habits, and the process of writing his memoir. Topics included media portrayals of him, his numerous appearances on C-SPAN, and aspects of his personal life such as religion, marriage, and raising children. The interview took place at the U.S. Supreme Court.

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00:00:37 none JUSTICE CLARENCE THOMAS, GO BACK TO THE VERY FIRST TIME YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THIS.
00:00:46 Unidentified Speaker I THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE YEAR 2000, SHORTLY AFTER MY BROTHER DIED, WHEN I REALIZED THAT HIS DEATH MEANT...
00:01:20 Unidentified Speaker HOW DID YOU DO IT? HOW DID YOU START?
00:01:27 Unidentified Speaker ACTUALLY WITH SOME PRODDING. SOMETIME IN 2003 MAY BE. I STARTED PUTTING IT DOWN, AND ONE THING LED...
00:01:57 Unidentified Speaker SUPREME COURT JUSTICE DOES NOT JUST WRITE A BOOK. HE HAS TO HAVE AN AGENT. HAVE YOU GET AN AGENT?...
00:02:07 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT KNOW HOW THAT EXACTLY WORKED. I THINK I TALKED WITH SOME FRIENDS THAT HAD WRITTEN BOOKS ...
00:02:25 Unidentified Speaker BY HARPERCOLLINS -- WHY HARPER COLLINS?
00:02:27 Unidentified Speaker THAT IS WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH. IT WAS NOT AN OVERWHELMING INTEREST IN THE BOOK. THERE WAS AN OVERWHELMING...
00:02:43 Unidentified Speaker EVERY STORY ABOUT YOU SAYS THAT THIS BOOK IS WORTH 1 MILLION AND ONE-HALF DOLLARS. DO YOU WANT TO...
00:02:51 Unidentified Speaker THAT WAS AN ADVANCE. WORSE, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS WORTH.
00:02:56 Unidentified Speaker SO FAR, WHAT IS YOUR REACTION WITH THE COVERAGE YOU HAVE GOTTEN SINCE IT CAME OUT?
00:03:04 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT EXACTLY FOLLOW ALL OF THAT. I THINK CERTAINLY "60 MINUTES" WAS THERE AND QUITE GOOD. --...
00:03:27 Unidentified Speaker YOU STATE IN YOUR BOOK THAT JUAN WILLIAMS CHANGED YOUR LIFE.
00:03:35 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT KNOW IF I SAID THAT, EXCEPT THE ARTICLE. IN 1980, WHEN WE WENT TO THE FAIRMONT CONFERENCE...
00:04:03 Unidentified Speaker IT WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT YOUR SISTER?
00:04:06 Unidentified Speaker THAT IS WHAT CRITICS MADE IT. IT WAS NOT ABOUT MY SISTER. IT WAS ABOUT ISSUES SUCH AS WELFARE, SCHOOL...
00:04:43 Unidentified Speaker WAS THAT 1980?
00:04:48 Unidentified Speaker THAT WAS IN DECEMBER OR NOVEMBER OF 1980. I WAS WORKING FOR SENATOR DANFORTH. THAT WAS WHAT I MET...
00:05:04 Unidentified Speaker AND AT THAT TIME, AT SOME POINT IN THE PROCESS, HE BECAME A REPUBLICAN TO VOTE FOR RONALD REAGAN?...
00:05:11 Unidentified Speaker IT WAS AROUND THAT ELECTION, IT JUST BEFORE HIS ELECTION IN 1980.
00:05:15 Unidentified Speaker ONE NAME THAT COMES UP OFTEN IS JOHN BOLTEN.
00:05:22 Unidentified Speaker HE WAS MY CLASSMATES AT YALE.
00:05:25 Unidentified Speaker HE SUGGESTED HE MIGHT HAVE HELPED SHIFT YOUR POLITICS.
00:05:30 Unidentified Speaker IN A LOT OF WAYS. HE IS AN INTERESTING GUY, AND ONE THING HE IS IS ABSOLUTELY HONEST. HE FOUND MY...
00:06:35 Unidentified Speaker HOW MUCH HAVE YOU STAYED IN TOUCH WITH HIM?
00:06:39 Unidentified Speaker IN WASHINGTON, YOU DO NOT SEE PEOPLE EVERY DAY, BUT AS FOR HIM IN AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE...
00:06:49 Unidentified Speaker ONE THING IN YOUR BOOK IS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT NAMES THAT HAVE HAD AN IMPACT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER....
00:07:01 Unidentified Speaker I WAS CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMISSION. THERE WERE TWO JOBS. AS CHAIRMAN, YOU RUN MEETINGS AND DEVELOP...
00:07:44 Unidentified Speaker WHAT DID YOU SAY AT THE TIME THAT IRRITATED BRAD?
00:07:51 Unidentified Speaker WE DISAGREED ON SUBSTANCE. THAT WAS A TIME WHEN WE TALK ABOUT QUOTAS AND GOALS AND TIMETABLES, AND...
00:08:43 Unidentified Speaker YOU SAID YOU HOPED TO CAMPAIGN FOR RONALD REAGAN, BUT YOU DID NOT GET THE CALL.
00:08:52 Unidentified Speaker I THINK IT WAS A TIME IN THERE WHERE YOU THERE AND IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING WORKING FOR A BIG ADMINISTRATION....
00:09:14 Unidentified Speaker WHAT DID YOU DO ABOUT IT?
00:09:17 Unidentified Speaker I CONTINUE TO HAMMER AWAY. FIRST, I WAS DISAPPOINTED, BUT ONE THING YOU REALIZE IS THAT IF YOU STAY...
00:09:45 Unidentified Speaker TELL US ABOUT SOME OF YOUR PREDICT YOU TELL US ABOUT SOME OF YOUR READING HABITS. -- YOU TELL US ABOUT...
00:09:59 Unidentified Speaker I STARTED OUT WATCHING ADOLF HITLER AND WONDERING WHY THE WESTERN WORLD, THIS GREAT CIVILIZED SOCIETY,...
00:11:41 Unidentified Speaker WHAT YEAR DID YOU GET INTRODUCED TO CHURCHILL?
00:11:47 Unidentified Speaker IT WAS THE 1980'S BAIDOA IN PARTICULAR. WHAT TO DO THAT, YOU FIND PEOPLE THAT ARE ALSO INTERESTED...
00:12:31 Unidentified Speaker HOW MUCH DID READING CHANGE YOUR THINKING?
00:12:33 Unidentified Speaker IT IS INTERESTING. I DO NOT KNOW IF IT CHANGE MY THINKING AS MUCH AS IT CAUSED ME TO THINK MORE THOROUGHLY...
00:13:32 Unidentified Speaker YOU MENTIONED LINCOLN. WHO INTRODUCED YOU TO LINCOLN?
00:13:38 Unidentified Speaker I READ "BATTLE CRY OF FREEDOM." IT WAS THE ONE ON VOLUME OXFORD ADDITION, AND I WAS INTERESTED IN...
00:15:05 Unidentified Speaker HOW DO YOU FIND SOMEONE TO HIRE AND DO THAT JOB?
00:15:08 Unidentified Speaker AGAIN FORTUITOUS. SOMEBODY HAPPENED TO APPLY.
00:15:11 Unidentified Speaker THE YOU REMEMBER WHO?
00:15:17 Unidentified Speaker A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WERE OUT AT THE CLAREMONT INSTITUTE IN CALIFORNIA, AND WHAT I WAS IN -- AND...
00:15:47 Unidentified Speaker YOU ALSO SAID YOU READ "FOUNTAINHEAD" AND "ATLAS SHRUGGED." WHAT YEARS WAS THAT?
00:15:59 Unidentified Speaker I READ IN HIGH SCHOOL AND WE READ THEM OVER THE YEARS. I READ BOTH AS SLOWLY AS I COULD DURING MY...
00:16:43 Unidentified Speaker CLARENCE PENDLETON, WHAT WAS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM?
00:16:45 Unidentified Speaker I LOVED HIM. WE CALLED HIM A PENNY. HE WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS COMMISSION WHILE I WAS...
00:17:30 Unidentified Speaker WHEN YOU WERE NOMINATED FOR THE SUPREME COURT, YOU SAY AT ONE. NEAR THE TIME WHEN YOU HAD TO GO IN...
00:17:46 Unidentified Speaker I DID NOT GIVE COMBAT OF SPEECHES. I GAVE SPEECHES -- WHEN YOU START GETTING SORT OF CRITICIZED,...
00:18:30 Unidentified Speaker IN 2000, HE STARTED ABOUT THE -- HE STARTED HE BOUGHT THE BOOK. WHEN DID YOU FINISH? -- IN 2000, YOU...
00:18:46 Unidentified Speaker I STARTED THE FIRST DRAFT IN 2005, AND IT WAS DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THIS BOOK. IT WAS AROUND 380 SINGLE-SPACED...
00:18:54 Unidentified Speaker WHAT WAS TAKEN OUT?
00:18:56 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT THINK ANYTHING OF SUBSTANCE. NONE OF THE STORY WAS TAKEN OUT, BUT THAT IS THE NATURE OF EDITING....
00:19:29 Unidentified Speaker PHYSICALLY, WHERE DID YOU WRITE?
00:19:30 Unidentified Speaker AT HOME. ON VACATION, HOTEL ROOMS, AIRPLANES, SOCCER PRACTICE, BUT BASKETBALL PRACTICE WITH MY GREAT...
00:19:58 Unidentified Speaker WHAT KIND OF REQUIREMENTS DID HARPER COLLINS MAKE ON YOU TO MAKE IT A SALABLE BOOK?
00:20:04 Unidentified Speaker 9. I REFUSE TO TURN OVER ANY EDITORIAL RIGHTS OR TO BE -- OR TO ALLOW ANYBODY TO TELL ME WHAT TO...
00:20:19 Unidentified Speaker YOU ARE NOT GOING THROUGH ANY OF THIS FOR THE FUN OF IT?
00:20:29 Unidentified Speaker I AGREE TO DO SOME, BUT AS FAR AS SUBSTANCE, NO SUGGESTIONS OTHER THAN HELP IN EDITING IN A WAY --...
00:21:21 Unidentified Speaker I HAVE SEEN YOUR INTERVIEWS. YOU STARTED OUT ON "60 MINUTES." WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HOW THEY TREATED...
00:21:29 Unidentified Speaker THEY TREATED ME VERY WELL. I HAVE TO ADMIT BASED ON MY EXPERIENCES, NOT SPECULATION, THAT I WAS VERY...
00:22:00 Unidentified Speaker WHY? WHY ARE YOU STILL THAT-, AND WHY DID THIS MAKE A DIFFERENCE?
00:22:11 Unidentified Speaker ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO BACK AND READ THE COVERAGE, AND YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION. PEOPLE HAVE...
00:22:54 Unidentified Speaker RUSH LIMBAUGH -- IT WAS INTERESTING HAVING EVERYBODY BRAG ABOUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE LONGEST...
00:23:17 Unidentified Speaker HE IS A WONDERFUL FRIEND.
00:23:24 Unidentified Speaker YOU MARRIED HIM.
00:23:27 Unidentified Speaker I PERFORMED THE CEREMONY.
00:23:29 Unidentified Speaker IT IS HARD FOR YOU WHEN YOU KNOW SOMEONE BACK WELL TO BE INTERVIEWED BY THEM AND HAVE THEM TELL YOU...
00:23:40 Unidentified Speaker HE DOES NOT LET UP ON YOU BECAUSE OF THAT, BUT I TRUST THAT HE IS NOT THERE TO SCORE POINTS. SO MANY...
00:24:16 Unidentified Speaker I NOTICED THAT WHEN "60 MINUTE" CAME OUT, IT SAID, "THAT JUST AS NOBODY KNOWS." I LOOKED AT MY RECORDS...
00:24:41 Unidentified Speaker YOU HIT THE POINT. C-SPAN HAS DONE WONDERFUL. YOU REMEMBER AFTER BUSH BEAT GORE THAT YOU HAD ME THE...
00:25:25 Unidentified Speaker I WROTE THIS DOWN FROM ABC COVERAGE. "THE SILENT JUSTICE." SHE SAID YOU WERE CANDID, EMOTIONAL, UNPLUGGED,...
00:25:44 Unidentified Speaker I THINK BECAUSE I DO NOT TALK HEARING ORAL ARGUMENTS. THEY THINK I CANNOT TALK AND THEY HAVE TO SPECULATE....
00:26:28 Unidentified Speaker "USA TODAY" DID ITS YEARLY EDITORIAL, AND THEY STARTED OFF BY SAYING, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU CAN SEE SUPREME...
00:27:10 Unidentified Speaker I THINK SO.
00:27:12 Unidentified Speaker IS A DEAD ISSUE AS FAR AS YOU CONCERNED THAT WE WILL NEVER SEE THE SUPREME COURT IN THIS?
00:27:21 Unidentified Speaker YEARS AGO WHEN YOU WERE STARTING C-SPAN, I THINK THERE WAS SOME THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE A DEAD ISSUE...
00:28:25 Unidentified Speaker HAVE THEY EVER VOTED ON IT SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN THERE?
00:28:30 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT THINK THE DISCUSSION EVER REALLY STOPS. IT MAY RISE AND EBB AND FLOW, BUT I DO NOT THINK...
00:28:37 Unidentified Speaker WILL YOU LET US KNOW?
00:28:43 Unidentified Speaker I CANNOT PROMISE YOU THAT. YOU HAVE TO TALK WITH THE CHIEF JUSTICE. HE IS IN CHARGE.
00:28:50 Unidentified Speaker COVERAGE THIS WEEK WHICH LOWRY WROTE REGION R-- RICH LOWRY, WROTE ABOUT YOU. WHY IS THERE SUCH A DIFFERENCE...
00:29:19 Unidentified Speaker MAY BE TWO DIFFERENT HUMAN BEINGS LOOK DIFFERENTLY AT YOU, TOO, BUT WHAT I TRY TO POINT OUT IN THE...
00:30:44 Unidentified Speaker HOW MUCH DO YOU READ THE NEWSPAPERS?
00:30:45 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT. I DO NOT THINK IT IS A BIG USE OF MY TIME.
00:30:52 Unidentified Speaker YOU DO NOT READ "THE POINT -- THE POST."
00:31:00 Unidentified Speaker NO, I WANTED TO BE A JOURNALIST, BUT I THINK PART OF BEING A GOOD JOURNALIST IS BEING HONEST. I THINK...
00:31:18 Unidentified Speaker THEN YOU PROBABLY DID NOT SEE THIS, OR MAYBE YOUR WIFE, AND THIS SEEMS TO WATCH THIS STUFF --
00:31:26 Unidentified Speaker I AM NOT INTERESTED. THERE IS FURTHER REASON NOT TO BE BOTHERED BY IT, SO I AM NOT BOTHERED.
00:31:39 Unidentified Speaker SOME OF THE TOUGHEST CRITICISM I HAVE SEEN SINCE THE BOOK CAME OUT IS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN COLUMNIST...
00:31:48 Unidentified Speaker I COULD NOT CARE LESS.
00:31:53 Unidentified Speaker DO YOU KNOW WHO THIS IS?
00:31:54 Unidentified Speaker I HAVE NO IDEA.
00:31:59 Unidentified Speaker HE SAYS -- THIS IS HOW TOUGH IT HAS BEEN THIS WEEK -- I BELIEVE IN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, BUT THERE ARE...
00:32:14 Unidentified Speaker THAT IS USELESS TO ME. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT?
00:32:20 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT KNOW, BUT PEOPLE READ HIS COLUMN.
00:32:23 Unidentified Speaker YOU CAN FIND SOMEONE AT THE LOCAL TAVERN WITH TOO MUCH TO DRINK SAYING THAT. THAT IS USELESS. THAT...
00:33:02 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT KNOW. I DO NOT KNOW BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN SOME CONTEXT, BUT THESE COLUMNISTS WRITE...
00:33:12 Unidentified Speaker THE RIGHT THINGS ABOUT -- THINGS THAT ARE RIDICULOUS WITH NO VALUE.
00:33:17 Unidentified Speaker RUTH MARCUS.
00:33:21 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT KNOW WHO THAT IS.
00:33:24 Unidentified Speaker SHE SAYS, TO READ THE BOOK IS TO BE STRUCK BY THE FURNACE OF HIS ANGER AT DEMOCRATS AND LIBERAL INTEREST...
00:33:37 Unidentified Speaker FIRST, I HAVE NO ANGER AT HER. I THINK WE GOT CAUGHT UP IN THE PROCESS. THINK ABOUT MY LIFE. WHERE...
00:34:22 Unidentified Speaker MOST OF THE TIME YOU ARE GIVING YOUR OWN SPEECHES, BUT THERE IS A CERTAIN TEMPERAMENT.
00:34:29 Unidentified Speaker I HAVE BEEN TO LAW SCHOOLS, AND YOU HAVE BEEN THERE. I HAVE BEEN TO DINNERS WERE THERE WITH PEOPLE...
00:34:42 Unidentified Speaker THATTHAT IT IS A PART OF THEIR EFFORT TO HARM, BUT THAT IS THEIR BUSINESS. WHAT I SAID IN THIS BOOK...
00:35:15 Unidentified Speaker ARE YOU GOING ON A BOOK TOUR?
00:35:20 Unidentified Speaker NOT BOOKSTORES, BUT THERE ARE SOME EVENTS THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION IS PUT ON.
00:35:30 Unidentified Speaker IN THE BOOK, YOU SPEAK A LOT ABOUT YOUR BELIEF IN GOD. I WANT TO BE ONE -- TO READ ONE PARAGRAPH ON...
00:36:29 Unidentified Speaker DID THAT SOUND BETTER TO YOU?
00:36:32 Unidentified Speaker I WANTED TO ASK YOU, THAT WHOLE SENSE OF -- THAT WHOLE SERIES OF THE REJECTED GUY, AMBIVALENT ABOUT...
00:36:45 Unidentified Speaker FIRST, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE A CYNICAL AND NEGATIVE PEOPLE THAT WILL SPIN THAT A LOT OF WAYS....
00:38:43 Unidentified Speaker WHEN HAD LOST FAITH COMPLETELY? -- WHEN HAD YOU LOST IT COMPLETELY?
00:38:52 Unidentified Speaker BY 1968 I WAS PRETTY MUCH DONE.
00:38:55 Unidentified Speaker YOU HAD BEEN A CATHOLIC SINCE YOUR GRANDPARENTS?
00:38:58 Unidentified Speaker I HAVE BEEN TO SEMINARY, AND I THINK THE DAY BY VOCATION TO BECOME A PRIEST WAS DESOLATED. I WAS 19...
00:39:53 Unidentified Speaker WHAT TO READ OF TIME DID YOU BECOME AMBIVALENT?
00:39:56 Unidentified Speaker I WENT THROUGH THE PERIOD OF BEING ANGRY, WHEN I WAS REALLY ANGRY AT HOLY CROSS AS A YOUNG MAN, AND...
00:40:40 Unidentified Speaker WHEN DID IT REALLY KICK IN AGAIN AND HE BECAME A BELIEVER, AND YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY A STRONG BELIEVER?...
00:40:47 Unidentified Speaker WHEN I MET MY WIFE. SHE WAS A GIFT FROM GOD FOR ME.
00:40:50 Unidentified Speaker WHERE DID YOU MEET HER?
00:40:53 Unidentified Speaker I MET HER IN NEW YORK CITY AT A CONFERENCE. WE WERE INTRODUCED, AND WE TOOK A CAB TO DID IT -- TO...
00:41:23 Unidentified Speaker WHAT ATTRACTED YOU TO HER?
00:41:26 Unidentified Speaker SHE IS A GOOD PERSON, KIND, POSITIVE, BEAUTIFUL, BUT THEIR REAL REASON WAS THE KIDDER PEABODY. SHE...
00:42:55 Unidentified Speaker IN LATE "THE WASHINGTON POST" THEY WROTE THIS, THEY HUMILIATED HIM 16 YEARS AGO, AND THE JUSTICE MAKES...
00:43:15 Unidentified Speaker THAT IS JUST SPIN. YOU SEE ME. I AM SITTING HERE WITH YOU. HAVE YOU HEARD ANYBODY IN THIS BIT --...
00:43:34 Unidentified Speaker WHAT HAS BEEN THE ACTION OF YOUR FELLOW JUSTICES DO YOU WRITING THIS BOOK AND GETTING ALL OF THE ATTENTION...
00:43:45 Unidentified Speaker THEY HAVE BEEN ENORMOUSLY SUPPORTIVE. SOME KID BE ABOUT THE BOOK AND SAY THEY CANNOT TURN THE CHANNEL...
00:44:32 Unidentified Speaker EARLY ON, EVERYBODY WANTED ANITA HILL'S REACTION, AND SHE FINALLY WROTE A PIECE FOR "THE NEW YORK...
00:44:41 Unidentified Speaker NO.
00:45:21 Unidentified Speaker WHAT ELSE IS SHE GOING TO SAY? AND I DO NOT THINK -- MY BOOK IS NOT ABOUT HER. MY BOOK IS ABOUT A LIFE...
00:46:17 Unidentified Speaker ARMSTRONG WILLIAMS SAYS THAT YOU ARE A FREE MAN NOW. IS THAT TRUE?
00:46:24 Unidentified Speaker I HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANYTHING OFF MY CHEST. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT I GOT OFF MY CHEST. IT IS NOT ABOUT --...
00:47:24 Unidentified Speaker WOULD YOU RECOMMEND ANYBODY GO TO WHAT YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH? BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND PEOPLE STAND...
00:47:30 Unidentified Speaker WOULD YOU GO THROUGH THE WHOLE WASHINGTON EXPERIENCE OF KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW NOW?
00:47:36 Unidentified Speaker FOR WHAT PURPOSE? I WOULD DO IT NOT TO BE PUSHED AROUND BY POLICE AND IN ORDER -- PUSHED AROUND BY...
00:49:29 Unidentified Speaker HE SAID YOU CARRY AROUND A LITTLE PRAYER. DO YOU STILL HAVE THAT?
00:49:33 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT HAVE IT. I CARRIED IT WHEN I WAS AT THE EEOC. IT WAS PART OF MY JOURNEY TO MY FAITH TO CARRY...
00:49:54 Unidentified Speaker KEEP A CLEAR EYE TO LIVES AND, DO NOT FORGET YOUR PURPOSE AS GOD'S CREATURES. WHAT YOU ARE IN YOUR...
00:50:28 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT HAVE IT IN MY WALLET I FAVOR IT IS THE WHITNEY OF HUMILITY -- MY FAVORITE IS THE LITANY OF...
00:51:47 Unidentified Speaker YOU WRITE ABOUT YOUR GREAT NEPHEW. HOW WOULD THAT RELATE TO YOU?
00:51:54 Unidentified Speaker HE IS MY SISTER'S GRANDSON. HE IS 16, AND HE WAS 6 WHEN WE STARTED RAISING HIM.
00:52:01 Unidentified Speaker IS HE STILL LIVING WITH YOU?
00:52:04 Unidentified Speaker YES, WE ARE RAISING HIM AS A SON. HE WILL BE AN ADULT WHEN HE GOES OUT.
00:52:11 Unidentified Speaker HOW ARE YOU DEALING WITH HIM, COMPARED WITH YOUR GRANDFATHER.
00:52:17 Unidentified Speaker I DO NOT HAVE A FARM. HE IS MORE OF A CHALLENGE THAN I WAS. THIS IS A DIFFERENT ERA, SO HE DOES SPORTS...
00:53:04 Unidentified Speaker YOU WRITE ABOUT JAMAL. WHERE IS HE?
00:53:07 Unidentified Speaker HE IS WORKING SOUTH OF HERE, AND HE IS A GREAT GUY.
00:53:12 Unidentified Speaker HOW OLD IS HE?
00:53:13 Unidentified Speaker HE IS 34.
00:53:15 Unidentified Speaker I AM NOT GOING TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT IS NOT MY ROLE, BUT I READ ON THE INTERNET THAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID...
00:53:36 Unidentified Speaker I RAISED HIM TO BE INDEPENDENT, AND I HAVE NEVER BURDENED HIM WITH BEING A PROPER OR BEING AN EXTRA...
00:54:09 Unidentified Speaker YOU ARE NEAR THE END OF YOUR INTERVIEWS FOR THE BOOK.
00:54:12 Unidentified Speaker I HOPE.
00:54:15 Unidentified Speaker YOU HAVE FINISHED WRITING IT. WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE?
00:54:22 Unidentified Speaker I THINK IT IS VERY HARD. IT IS ONE OF THE HEART IS UNDERTAKINGS I HAVE ENGAGED IN, BECAUSE -- ONE...
00:55:11 Unidentified Speaker WHAT WAS THE HARDEST PART?
00:55:14 Unidentified Speaker I THINK THE HARDEST PART TO WRITE WAS ABOUT DIFFICULT PARTS OF MY LIFE. IT WAS NOT HARD TO WRITE ABOUT...
00:55:40 Unidentified Speaker DID YOU GET EMOTIONAL?
00:55:42 Unidentified Speaker THAT WAS THE HARDEST PART, WRITING ABOUT MY GRANDPARENTS.
00:55:46 Unidentified Speaker THAT WAS AN EMOTIONAL TIME TRYING TO WRITE IT?
00:55:48 Unidentified Speaker OBVIOUSLY, YES.
00:55:51 Unidentified Speaker ARE YOU EVER GOING TO DO THIS AGAIN?
00:55:53 Unidentified Speaker NOT THIS. I AM DONE WITH THIS. MY HOPE IS THAT I WILL HELP SOMEBODY, BECAUSE THE EASY THING TO DO...
00:57:07 Unidentified Speaker JUSTICE THOMAS, THANK YOU BARRE MUCH. -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:57:23 Unidentified Speaker FOR A COPY ON DVD ARE DHS, PLEASE CALL. FOR FREE TRANSCRIPTS, OR TO GIVE COMMENTS, VISIT US ONLINE....

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