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HELLO WELCOME TO CLOSE UP AT THE NEWSEUM. I'M FRANK BOND. OUR TOPIC THIS WEEK IS CLIMATE CHANGE.... |
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THANK YOU. |
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EACH WEEK WE BRING STUDENTS FACE-TO-FACE WITH THE ISSUES OF THE DAY AND WORKING OF GOVERNMENT AND... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH I WANTED INTRODUCE THE STUDENTS TO OUR GUESTS I HAVE A SPOKESMAN FOR THE GROUP... |
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JEFF MILLER. |
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JEFF MILLER, WITH WHERE ARE YOU FROM. |
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THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL IN ALEXANDRIA VIRGINIA. |
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WHAT IS SPECIAL ABOUT THOMAS JEFFERSON. |
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MAGNATE SCHOOL. |
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WHAT DO YOU STUDY THERE. WHAT IS THE FOCUS. |
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SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY. |
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GREAT. THEY'RE PERFECT FOR THIS GROUP AND FOR THIS TOPIC TODAY. I WANT TO START OFF OUR DISCUSSION... |
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I'M ERIN. |
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ERIN YOU HELD UP A GREEN CARD. WHY IS CLIMATE CHANGE IMPORTANT TO YOU? |
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THERE IS LOT OF CONTROVERSY ABOUT RIGHT NOW LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT. IT'S JUST INTERESTING... |
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DO YOU THINK IT'S A PROBLEM? |
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I'M NOT SURE THAT IT IS BECAUSE THERE IS LOT OF EVIDENCE THAT, IT'S JUST, LIKE GLOBAL WARMING IS ... |
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SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL FIND OUT MORE ABOUT TODAY. ASK A QUESTION IF YOU HAVE ONE. DID YOU HOLD... |
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I FEEL AS THOUGH BYRON. I FEEL AS THOUGH GLOBAL WARMING HAS REALLY BEEN SOMETHING A LOT OF POLITICAL... |
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OTHER SIDE OF ROOM. WHO THINKS IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM. STAND UP FOR ME OR GO TO MICROPHONE OVER THERE.... |
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I DO THINK IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM. I THINK IT'S AN ISSUE THAT REALLY HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED MY NAME IS... |
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OKAY. WHO HAS SOMETHING THEY WANT TO LEARN ABOUT TODAY? SOMEBODY WHO HAS A QUESTION, WHO HAS A, BROAD... |
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HI I'M DAN. I'M JUST WONDERING, I'M VERY CONCERNED WITH GLOBAL WARMING BUT IN THIS FORUM I WAS WONDERING... |
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GREAT QUESTION. WE'LL HAVE LOTS MORE QUESTIONS LIKE THAT. I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE, WRITTEN QUESTIONS.... |
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THANK YOU, SONJA. STUDENTS REALLY HIT ON THE CRUX OF A LOT OF THE CONTROVERSY HERE. START WITH YOU,... |
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SCIENCE HAS TO BE CLEAR IN AND OF ITSELF. PROBLEM WITH ISSUES LIKE THIS ONE IT'S NOT LIKE THE, 20th... |
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PATRICK, WHERE DO YOU FEEL THE JOURNALISM ON CLIMATE CHANGE MAKES THE GRADE? WHERE DO YOU FEEL THAT... |
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ANDY'S THE BEST THERE IS OF COURSE THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. THE PROBLEM IS THAT, SCIENTIFIC... |
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TWO OF YOU, THERE IS NOT NECESSARILY, THERE IS ADMIRATION, FOR, ANDY'S WORK BUT YOU TWO COME OUT ... |
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WELL, I'M A JOURNALIST, HE IS A SCIENTIST. AND, PAT, HAS, I GUESS ALIGNED YOURSELF IN SOME WAYS WITH... |
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PROBLEM IS ON THIS ISSUE THAT EVERYBODY'S GOT A DOG IN THIS HUNT. AND WHAT WE SEE, WE TEND TO SEE... |
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LET'S STOP RIGHT THERE. WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO... |
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HI I'M SHARON. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT TANGENTIAL. READING BACKGROUND MATERIAL I SAW THAT IT SAID, AS,... |
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I THINK I GET THAT ONE. |
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GO AHEAD. |
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ONE THING. FIRST OF ALL AS THE ARCTIC ICE MELTS THAT DOES NOT CHANGE WATER LEVELS. BECAUSE IT'S SEA... |
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I CALL A VARIETY OF SCIENTISTS EVERY TIME A PEER REVIEWED PAPER COMING OUT I MIGHT BE NEWSWORTHY.... |
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ONE REJOINDER. THOMAS JEFFERSON, REMEMBER HIM? HE STARTED A PLACE CALLED UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA.... |
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LET ME ASK YOU THIS, PATRICK. THERE WAS NEWS ITEM HEARD ON RADIO NPR LAST NIGHT. PROBABLY OLD NEWS... |
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TELL YOU THIS. EVERYBODY'S GOT TO GO THROUGH A DOOR IN SCIENCE. IT'S CALLED REFEREED SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE.... |
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LET ME ASK THE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, WHAT DOES THAT DOES PUT THE RESPONSIBILITY SQUARELY WHERE IT BELONGS... |
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WELL AGAIN, THE THING THAT I'VE LEARNED, WRITING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE SINCE 1988. AND I WENT TO THE... |
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WE HAVE COMMENT. COUPLE OF COMMENTS. START WITH YOU IN THE BACK. |
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I'M PUSH I KIND OF HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH WHAT FRANK SAID. AND, AS A SENIOR IN FAIRFAX COUNTY WE'RE... |
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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S CLEAR ABOUT CLIMATE, THIS GETS AT THAT WHIPLASH JOURNALISM NOTION THERE IS... |
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I THINK THAT THE, EVEN, PAT, PERHAPS BETRAYED A SLIGHT AMOUNT OF JOURNALISTIC BIAS. THE FACT OF THE... |
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THAT'S GOOD. ANOTHER COMMENT OVER HERE? |
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HI. DAN NISMT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. REVKIN. YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU, IN YOUR PAPERS WHEN YOU'RE... |
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THAT'S A GREAT AND PERFECT QUESTION. WHAT'S HAPPENED IN OUR COVERAGE OVER THE YEARS THERE IS SHIFT... |
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DAN. |
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DAN. A-PLUS FOR YOUR QUESTION. THAT WAS AN A-PLUS QUESTION. AND, IT GOES TO SOMETHING THAT IS GOING... |
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I DON'T THINK ITS THAT HOT ISSUE. |
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PLEASE KILL ME. |
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LET ME ASK ANDREW WE GET BACK TO PROCESS NOW. HOW DO WE MAKE POLITICAL POLICY DECISIONS BASED ON ... |
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YOU KIND OF, JUST SPOKEN ABOUT TWO FACETS OF PRESS. ONE IS THE PUBLIC SERVICE FACET. TRYING TO GET... |
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THOSE PEOPLE, MIDDLE AGE WILL BE 70. |
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THAT'S TRUE. |
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THANKS TO THEIR BIOTECHNOLOGY. |
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EVEN RESPONSES ARE TIME SCALE THAT JOURNALISM PUBLIC DISCOURSE HAVE A TERRIBLE TIME WITH. IT'S NOT... |
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ON POLICY DECISIONS, LINKED TO CLIMATE CHANGE, DO AFFECT EVERYBODY IN EVERYDAY LIFE IN WAYS YOU WOULDN'T... |
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THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THINKING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW. |
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MY NAME IS EVAN, AND MY QUESTION IS FOR MR. REVKIN. YOUR TAKING COMPLEX RESULTS THAT ARE ATTACK BEEN... |
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IT'S REALLY HARD, THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. I'VE WRITTEN 270 270 STORIES ON CLIMATE, AND EACH TIME YOU... |
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AND YOU HAVE TO HANG THE STORY ON A PEG. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. IN 2004, WHEN THIS FIRST PAPER... |
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BUT IT DID SAY THAT BY 2070 OR 2080 YOU WOULD HAVE A HIGHER PROBABILITY OF A STORM AT LEVEL 5. |
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DECADES TO COME USUALLY MEANS RECENT DECADES. |
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WHATEVER. |
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SORRY. |
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THE PEG IN THE NEWS IS THE PLIGHT OF THE POLAR BEARS. IS THIS AN ISSUE THAT WILL GET CITIZENS TO PAY... |
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THERE ARE A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CAMPAIGNERS WHO WOULD LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN. HAVING BEEN IN THE ARCTIC... |
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TALK ABOUT INCONVENIENT TRUTHS M. THIS GOES BACK TO A DOCUMENT THAT CAME BACK IN 2001. |
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WHICH I DID NOT WRITE ABOUT BECAUSE IT WAS FROM AN ADVOCACY GROUP. |
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BUT IT DID GET PRESS. |
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I NO. |
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BUT IT SAID THE BEARS WERE IN PERIL. THEY HAD 19 POPULATIONS OF POLAR BEARS AND DID I WHAT A SCIENTIST... |
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NOT ANY MORE. |
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WELL OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES THE AVERAGE TEMPERATURE IS NEGATIVE. WHERE THE TEMPERATURES... |
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LET'S GO TO ANOTHER AUDIENCE QUESTION. |
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I JUST WANTED TO DISAGREE WITH WHAT DAN SAID EARLIER ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING BEING AN OBVIOUSLY DRAMATIC... |
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WE'RE GOING TO LET THEM RESPOND TO THEM BECAUSE YOU CALLED HIM OUT. WHILE WE GET A MICROPHONE TO ... |
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THIS IS A LIFETIME JOB FOR |
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YES. |
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LET'S GO TO DAN. YOUR CLASSMATE HAS DISAGREED WITH YOU'RE ASSUMPTION. |
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I THINK SHE MAKES A POINT AS DR. MICHAEL'S HAS SAID THE TEMPERATURES DIFFERENCE IS ONLY GOING TO BE... |
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DO YOU THINK GLOBAL WARMING HAS MORE INERTIA THAN POVERTY THAT ARE AFFECTING PEOPLE IN THIS LIFETIME... |
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WHAT WOULD YOU REQUIRE OF THIS ISSUE TO GET MORE SPACE IN THE NEWSPAPER, ON THE NEWS NEWSCAST THAN... |
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I THINK THIS GOES BACK TO ANOTHER POINT THAT DAN HAD MADE EARLIER, WHERE IT WOULD TAKE A CRISIS IN... |
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HOLD YOUR GROUND. ANDREW? |
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YOU'RE HITTING ON AN IMPORTANT THEME. THIS GOES TOBACCO TO WHAT I WAS SAYING IN THE BEGINNING. THIS... |
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FROM THE SCIENTISTS, ONCE AGAIN I THINK THE LESSON HERE IS THAT IT'S A MISTAKE TO SEPARATE OUT ISSUES... |
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BUT THEY DO -- YOU BRING UP A LOT OF IMPORTANT POINTS. WHEN PEOPLE ASK ME WHAT THE NO. 1 ENVIRONMENTAL... |
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THE ONE ALMOST THAT WAS ALSO IN MY STORY ON ENERGY RESEARCH THAT EVERYONE STRESSED WAS FOR CLIMATE,... |
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I HAVE 15 SECONDS HERE. |
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ANDY KEEPS TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE STORIES. THERE'S A WONDERFUL BOOK CALLED "MELT DOWN"." READ IT,... |
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WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT. |
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I'M JASON, I HAVE A MORE SPECIFIC QUESTION. DO YOU HAVE COMMENTARY ON THE RESEARCH THAT SUGGESTS THAT... |
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THIS IS A GREAT GLOBAL WARMING STORY. IF YOU PLOT ATMOSPHEREIC METHANE, WHEN THIS WHOLE THING BEGAN... |
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THANK YOU. |
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JUSTIN. THIS IS FOR DR. MICHAEL'S, AND IT WAS YOU THE KYOTO TREATY AND THE ICCC. IF YOU THOUGHT THEY... |
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KYOTO PROTOCOL WON'T DO ANYTHING. YOU HAVE TO REDUCE EMISSIONS DRAMATICALLY. NOBODY CAN COME UP WITH... |
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I HAVE TO BRIEFLY COMMENT. I'VE BEEN COVERING THE TALKS ON THE CLIMATE TREATY AND THE KYOTO TREATY... |
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LET'S STAY WITH THE STUDENTS. YOU HAVE A COMMENT OVER HERE. |
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I HAVE A QUESTION FOR DR. MICHAELS. EARLIER YOU MENTIONED THAT GOVERNMENT FUNDING FOR SCIENTIFIC... |
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ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THERE ARE A LIMITED NUMBER OF SCIENTISTS, AND HOPEFULLY YOU WILL HELP TO ALLEVIATE... |
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THANK YOU. |
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IN "STATE OF FEAR," HE SAYS THAT COMPUTER MODELS, THEY SHOULD BE DISGUARDED DISDISREGARDED. DO YOU... |
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PAT MADE IT CLEAR, THE DYNAMICS OF THE ATMOSPHERE AND HOWTIES CHANGING SHOWS THAT THE GROWING CONCENTRATION... |
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CAN WE LOOK AT THE TAPE WHILE YOU TALK ABOUT THAT TRIP. YOU BROUGHT US VIDEOTAPE ABOUT THE CRACK IN... |
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ESSENTIALLY FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS. THERE'S MANY KINDS OF RESEARCH UNDER WAY UNDER THE CLIMATE QUESTION.... |
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WE HAVE SOME OF THAT VIDEO, IF WE CAN GO TO THAT, THE SCIENTISTS AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE CRACK... |
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YEAH, SURE. ARE WE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GO TO -- OKAY. |
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EVEN KNOW THE ICE IS MAKING THIS TICKING SOUND FROM ALL THESE FRESH CRACKS THAT HAVE JUST OPENED THE... |
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THE CAP THAT WE'RE ON IS MOVING. 400 YARDS AN HOUR. WE'RE ADRIFT ON A RAFT OF SEA ICE. |
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I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE MODELS IN THE FOLLOWING SENSE. THESE MODELS TEND TO... |
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I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE. WE HAVE STUDENTS IN THE AUDIENCE BUT I'M SORRY, WE... |
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YOU'RE WATCHING CLOSE UP AT THE "NEWSEUM" AND THIS WEEK WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE AND... |
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I WANT TO GIVE THE STUDENTS A CHANCE TO ASK THEIR QUESTIONS BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE GOING BACK TO SCHOOL.... |
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MY QUESTION IS BEFORE YOU -- YOU MENTIONED HOW YOU -- I'M SORRY, EX-CUSS ME -- YOU THOMAS JEFFERSON... |
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I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT EDUCATION IN GENERAL. ONE THING THAT I'VE NOTICED IS PEOPLE OVER OVEREMPHASIZING... |
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ONE MORE QUESTION? |
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YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO COME UP -- |
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WE'LL LET YOU WRAP THEM UP IN AN ANSWER. |
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MY NAME IS BYRON, I'M SLIGHTLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACTS THAT IN THE PUBLIC THE PROPORTION OF PEOPLE... |
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THAT WRAPS IT UP WITH A BOW. WHICH ONE WANTS TO GO FIRST. |
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ONE REASON I WROTE THIS, WHICH IS FOR KIDS TEN AND UP IS BECAUSE I'M A CONVINCED I'M ONLY DOING PART... |
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PATRICK? |
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I AGREE WITH YOUR QUESTION, IT IS VERY IRKSOME WHEN THIS WARM SPELL OR THAT COLD SNAP GET UNIVERSAL... |
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IT'S NOW TIME FOR OUR CENTER ON CONGRESS FEATURE. THIS WEEK'S SEGMENT, WHAT DOES THE POLITICAL SHIFT... |
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THIS COUNTRY HAD AN ELECTION AND THE SHIFT, YOU KNOW, WENT FROM REPUBLICAN TO DEMOCRAT. WHAT DOES... |
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HOPEFULLY WE COULD PROBABLY GET OUR TROOPS OUT OR BETTER INTO A SAFE ZONE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A... |
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THERE WILL BE A LOT OF GRIDLOCK JUST BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS HAVE TOOKEN OVER. |
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BUSH WILL BE VETOING A LOT MORE. |
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OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO BE A CHANGE -- A CHANGE IN PRIORITY, A CHANGE IN DIRECTION. YOU KNOW, THE... |
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HOW DO YOU THINK IT WOULD AFFECT YOU AND YOUR COMMUNITY? |
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THE ONLY THING THAT CAN REALLY IMPROVE IF THEY PLAN ON ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THE LEVEES IN... |
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THE YOUNGER YOUTH, OUR GENERATION IS LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DEMOCRATS BEING IN CHARGE OF THE HOUSE... |
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OKAY, STUDENTS, TIME TO DO ONE MUCH OUR INSTANT POLLS USING YOUR GREEN AND RED CARDS. I WANT TO FIND... |
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MY NAME IS NATASHA, AND I THINK THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE VETOS BECAUSE THE DEMOCRATS -- IT'S GOING... |
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SOMEONE HAD A GREEN CARD, WHY YOU THINK THE DEMOCRATS WILL BE EFFECTIVE IN SHIFTING COURSE? |
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WELL, I THINK THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS WERE A MANDATE TO CONGRESS TO NOT DO WHAT THEY DID LAST YEAR.... |
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SO WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING TOWARDS THAT 2008 PRESIDENTIAL RACE, OBVIOUSLY. YES, YOU HAVE A COMMENT.... |
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OKAY. WELL, I THINK WHILE THE DEMOCRATS HAVE CONTROL OF THE CONGRESS AND THEY HAVE A VERY AMBITIOUS... |
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WHAT ISSUES IN IRAQ AND THE SITUATION IN IRAQ WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN SEEING THE CONGRESS MAKE... |
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I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME PROGRESS ON SOCIAL SECURITY. I'D LIKE TO SEE A WORKABLE PLAN FOR THAT BECAUSE... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND STUDENTS OF THOMAS JEFFERSON THOMAS AND TECHNOLOGY SCHOOL, THANK YOU ALL... |
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.
