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AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO LIVE TO THE HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING. SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE... |
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HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND GET ON THE TABLE. ONE OF THE -- ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT IS REALLY QUITE PARAMOUNT... |
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WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR. WE DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT A NUMBER OF ISSUES, AND... |
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WE ALSO HAD A CHANCE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ARCTIC COUNCIL. THIS IS PROBABLY NOT A QUESTION... |
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IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POINT THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE ABOUT THE BROADER QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED. AND I... |
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I THINK IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CULTIVATED IN ORDER TO WORK... |
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WELL, IN FACT, IT MAY BE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE DO OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. WE'VE... |
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THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR. SENATOR NELSON? |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. DR. RICE. SENATOR DODD AND CHAFEY AND I JUST RETURNED FROM VISITING WITH... |
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WELL, I BELIEVE THAT THE NUMBER THAT HAS BEEN DETERMINED, 6 CENTER 700 OR SO LED BY BRAZIL AS A STABILIZATION... |
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THE PROBLEM IS THEY NEVER FOLLOW THROUGH. |
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SENATOR, I AGREE. WE HAVE TO PRESS VERY HARD ON PEOPLE TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THE PLEDGES THAT THEY... |
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AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 200 YEARS OF HAITI'S HISTORY. NOW, WHEN THE U.N. COMES UP FOR REAUTHORIZING... |
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SENATOR, WE'VE BEEN FOCUSED TO NOW ON TRYING TO STABILIZE THE SITUATION. THE BRAZILIANS HAVE DONE... |
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WELL, THEN I WANT TO SUGGEST SOMETHING TO YOU, AND IT'S A BILL THAT IS SPONSORED BY ONE OF OUR REPUBLICAN... |
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SENATOR, I THINK WE BELIEVE AT THIS POINT THAT THE BEST COURSE WITH HAITI IS TO WORK WITH THEM TO... |
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MADAM, AS SECRETARY YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF YOU'LL JUMP ON THAT HORSE AND RIDE IT AND KEEP ON... |
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WELL, SENATOR, THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO APPROACH BOTH MULTI-LATERALLY AND THROUGH SOME... |
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ARE YOU READY FOR SANCTIONS? |
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WELL, REALREADY HAVE AN ALL OF LOT OF SANCTIONS ON IRAN. THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE -- |
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HOW ABOUT GETTING EUROPE TO GO ALONG? |
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WELL, SENATOR, I WOULD TAKE AS A FIRST STEP THAT IF THE IRANIANS DO NOT SHOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO... |
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HOPEFULLY SOONER THAN LATER. |
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I COULD NOT AGREE MORE. |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR NELSON. SENATOR ALEXANDER. |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. DR. RICE, WELCOME. CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I... |
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THANK YOU, SENATOR. LET ME TAKE THE FIRST OF THOSE AND I WILL TRY TO SEGUE AS YOU DID SO WELL INTO... |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WOULD LIKE TO PUT MY ENTIRE STATEMENT IN THE RECORD, AND IF I MAY JUST... |
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THANK YOU, VERY MUCH, SENATOR ALEXANDER. AS YOU CAN TELL, DR. RICE, THE COMMITTEE IS FORCED TO HAVE... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. FIRST LET ME SAY HOW GRATEFUL I AM TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ... |
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THANK YOU. |
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FIRST OF ALL, ON NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION, LET ME JUST SAY THAT BROADLY, OUR STRATEGY HAS BEEN REALLY... |
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IS THE RESISTANCE ON THOSE REFORMS COMING SIMPLY FROM COUNTRIES IN THE MIDST OF DEVELOPMENT OR ARE... |
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IT IS COMING FROM COUNTRIES WHO WANT TO MAINTAIN THE ACCESS TO THEIR ENTIRE CIVILIAN NUCLEAR CYCLE,... |
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BUT MY UNDERSTANDING, THOUGH, IS ALSO THAT AT THE CURRENT SCHEDULE, WE WILL BE STRETCHING THIS PROCESS... |
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WE DO, BY THE WAY, HAVE A CLASS SCHEDULED FOR FOUR YEARS. WE WILL SEE WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THAT DONE,... |
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THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE, AND I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REPEATEDLY COMES UP, AS I TRAVEL THROUGH... |
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THE NUMBERS THAT WE CONSIDER TRAINED SOCIAL SECURITY 120,000. IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO GIVE A NUMBER... |
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OURS? |
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EVEN FOR OUR FORCES, AND WHILE WE WANT TO ACCELERATE THE TRAINING OF THE FORCES, WE DON'T WANT TO... |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, I KNOW MY TIME IS UP. I WOULD JUST MAKE THIS NOTE THAT IF OUR MEASURE IS TO BRING OUR... |
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SENATOR, IF I MAY JUST, TO THAT POINT, I WANT TO BE UNDERSTOOD THAT WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING TO COMPLETE... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR OBAMA. I WANTED TO UNDERLINE THE SENATOR'S POINT AND YOU HAVE IN YOUR... |
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THANK YOU, SENATOR. |
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SENATOR, I CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR COCHAIRMANSHIP WITH SENATOR BIDEN ON A SUCCESSFUL EFFORT. |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I SUPPOSE IT'S LARGELY DUE TO THE FACT THAT YOU CHOSE ME. IMA VERY GRATEFUL... |
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THAT WAS MY SECOND QUESTION IS WHAT CAN THE ARAB STATES DO TO HELP? OBVIOUSLY WITH 45 OR $50 A BARREL... |
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IT APPEARS TO ME THAT BOTH OF THE EGYPTIANS AND THE JORDANIANS WILL PROBABLY HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY. ... |
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IN ADDITION TO THE VALUE OF THAT STATEMENT, I WOULD MENTION THAT ONE OF THE THINS THAT CAME UP TIME... |
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WELL, THANK YOU. I WILL CERTAINLY LOOK AT IT. I HAVEN'T TAKEN A LOOK AT. THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE... |
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FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MIDDLE EAST PARTNERSHIP. THIS IS A NEW WAY... |
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THE BROADER QUESTION IS THERE NEEDS TO BE BROADER COORDINATION BETWEEN USAID AND THE STATE DEPARTMENT.... |
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THE JORDANIAN FREE TRADE AND THE INITIATIVES FROM MORROCCO HAVE BEEN UNDERTAKEN. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH: |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT IS A GREAT HONOR TO BE PART OF YOUR COMMITTEE. I LOOK FORWARD... |
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THANK YOU, SENATOR. I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO VIEW AT THIS POINT THE GOVERNMENT OF VENEZUELA AS A NEGATIVE... |
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IN RELATION TO CUBA, I KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT PUTS FORTH A VERY BROAD POLICY TOWARDS CUBA IN MAY... |
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WELL, THE INFORMATION FLOW TO CUBA IS A VERY IMPORTANT TOOL FOR US, BECAUSE CASTRO WOULD LIKE NOTHING... |
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YOU HAVE IN THE PAST, AND I KNOW YOU WILL IN THE FUTURE. |
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THANK YOU. |
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SHIFTING TO THE MIDDLE EAST, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRAVEL THERE RECENTLY, AND ALSO SAW THE PALESTINIAN... |
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ABSOLUTELY. RESOLUTION 1546 WHICH WE AND THE FRENCH COSPONSORED TO PUT THE SYRIANS ON NOTICE THAT... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS POINT, I WANTED TO HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION AND WILL NOT LET THIS BECOME... |
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SENATOR, I'M WILLING TO STAY HERE LONGER THAN THE AFTERNOON. |
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YOU MAY BE MORE PREPARED THAN ALL OF OUR MEMBERS, BUT NEVERTHELESS, I WILL NOT DEBATING THAT EITHER... |
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SENATOR COLEMAN. |
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FIVE, BUT I WOULD FOREGO MY FIVE IF WE CAME TO A CONSENSUS. |
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I CAN BE VERY FLEXIBLE. |
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ALL RIGHT. I READ THAT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 30 AND 40 MINUTES. PLUS OR MINUS A FEW. SENATOR BIDEN. |
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I HAVE AT LEAST TEN MINUTES. |
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SENATOR SARBANESS. |
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ANOTHER ROUND. |
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ALL RIGHT. ANOTHER TEN. SENATOR DODD. |
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TEN OR 15 MINUTES. |
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MS. BOXER? |
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TEN MINUTES. |
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ABOUT TWO HOURS? |
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TWO ROUNDS! |
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ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. SENATOR OBAMA. |
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ANOTHER 20 MINUTES. |
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WELL, THAT WOULD BE AT LEAST 70 MINUTES OR SOMENT. IT LOOKS LIKE -- AND SENATOR MCKOS SKI, HOW MANY... |
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I THINK IT CAN BE DONE IN TEN. WELL, IT APPEARS PROBABLY WE HAVE AT LEAST TWO HOURS OF WORK AHEAD... |
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MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO HAVE A LONG-STANDING COMMITMENT AT 6:00 I ASSUME WE WOULD GO TWO DAYS BUT I WANT... |
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THEY HAVE HAD THEIR -- THEY HAVE HAD THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED, AND I'M SURE THE WITNESS WOULD BE DELIGHTED... |
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MANY TIMES. |
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BUT -- SO I HAVE NO OBJECTION AS LONG AS THE CHAIRMAN UNDERSTANDS MY CONSTRAINT IS AT ABOUT TEN MINUTES... |
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CHAIRMAN, I MIGHT JUST -- I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO DO A WISE THING TO PROCEED THIS WAY. I WOULD... |
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COULD BE. |
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IT WOULD BE IMPROPER FOR US TO SAY THAT YOU WOULD SAY THERE ARE TWO HOURS LEFT. SO THE FAILING IN... |
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I UNDERSTAND THAT. THE CHAIR WILL NOT BE UNREASONABLE IN KEEPING THE HEARING GOING FOREVER. TRY TO... |
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. THERE IS DEEP INTEREST IN THIS. THIS IS EVIDENCED BY THE ATTENDEES AT THE HEARING WHO HAVE COME... |
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WE SUPPORT THE EYE PEEL OF UKRAINE. |
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FOR UKRAINE? |
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AT THE TIME IT IS APPROPRIATE, YES. |
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YOU MAY BE ABLE TO HELP US DETERMINE WHEN IT IS APPROPRIATE AND WORK WITH US ON THAT LEGISLATION SO... |
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SENATOR, I NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE WILL MEET THE COMMITMENTS. WE HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THE COMMITMENTS... |
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SO THEY STILL NEED TO BE CONVINCED THAT THEY NEED 2,300 PEACEKEEPERS. |
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YES. |
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THAT IS IMPORTANT. WE NEED AN IMPORTANT AMOUNT. NOT ONLY TO GEL TOGETHER THE SUCCESS THUS FAR, BUT... |
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YES. |
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ONCE AGAIN WE HAVE AN IMPORTANT DIPLOMATIC ASSIGNMENT -- I WOULD JUST REQUEST THAT YOU WORK CLOSELY... |
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THANK YOU. |
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I WANTED TO MENTION IN VENEZUELA, AS OTHERS HAVE ALREADY, THAT WE DO HAVE A VERY, VERY HEAVY OIL TRAFFIC... |
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WE'RE HOPING THAT GOVERNMENT OF VENEZUELA REALIZES THE MUTUAL BENEFICIAL NATURE OF THIS. I THINK WITH... |
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WOULD YOU TAKE UNDER ADVISEMENT THE NEED FOR A MORE EXPLICIT PLAN AND PERHAPS TO THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS... |
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WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE EUROPEANS AND WITH THE IAEA WE'RE FULL PARTICIPANT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.... |
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THAT HAS BEEN OUR POLICY. I AM HOPEFUL AND SEE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THE EUROPEANS HERE AS WE MELD TOGETHER... |
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THANK YOU. FINALLY IN MAY THE NONPROLIFERATION TREATY REVIEW CONFERENCE WILL TAKE PLACE IN NEW YORK.... |
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WE WILL TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE LOOPHOLES THAT ARE THERE. AND THE BIG ONE IS THIS ISSUE OF CIVILIAN... |
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THIS LOOP THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER. |
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THE FUEL CYCLE LOOP. AND WE HAVE SOME PROPOSALS. THERE'S A PROPOSAL FOR SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON COMPLIRNINGSE... |
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THANK YOU. SENATOR BIDEN? |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DR. RICE, I'M GOING TO ASK SEVERAL QUESTIONS, AND IF WE CAN BOTH GET RIGHT TO... |
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IT IS CERTAINLY THIS ADMINISTRATION'S INTENTION TO SEE THAT PROCESS THROUGH. WHAT THAT MEANS FOR OUR... |
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DO YOU SEE ANY POSSIBILITY -- ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. DO YOU SEE ANY REASONABLE POSSIBILITY THAT THE... |
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I CAN'T JUDGE THAT, SENATE BIDEN, BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE WILL -- SENATOR BIDEN, BUT I WILL SAY THAT... |
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I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE USEFUL UPON CONSIDERATION ONCE YOU'RE SWORN IN FOR SOMEBODY TO TELL THE AMERICAN... |
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THE GOAL OF THE ADMINISTRATION IS TO HAVE A REGIME IN IRAN THAT IS RESPONSIVE TO IRAN'S POLICIES.... |
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WHAT ARE THE THINGS IF I COULD STICK -- ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FOUND AND I MAY BE MISTAKEN, BUT... |
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I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE. I THINK THAT IT IS THE KIND OF THING THAT WE DON'T KNOW. I THINK... |
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AND YOU DID IT VERY TUCKSFULLY, ALONG WITH OUR EUROPEAN -- SUCCESSFULLY ALONG WITH OUR EUROPEAN FRIENDS... |
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WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER PROBLEMS WITH IRAN, NOT JUST THE NUCLEAR PROBLEM. AND I THINK THAT THE... |
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I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I THINK THAT YOU GAVE ME A STRAIGHTFORWARD ANSWER. WHEN I TALK TO OUR EUROPEAN... |
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THE RELATIONSHIP WITH IRAN HAS MORE COMPONENTS THAN THE NUCLEAR SIDE. BUT LET'S SEE HOW FAR THE EUROPEANS... |
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I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA AND THEIR HUMAN ABUSES ARE TERRIBLE. ... |
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THANK YOU, SENATOR BIDEN. SENATOR HAGEL? |
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THANK YOU. DR. RICE CONTRIBUTION YOU SHARE WITH US WHAT DIPLOMATIC INITIATIVES PRESIDENT BUSH WILL... |
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WE ARE WORKING CURRENTLY AND DISCUSSING WITH OUR EUROPEAN ALLIES HOW WE MIGHT STRUCTURE THIS VERY... |
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MIGHT THAT AGENDA INCLUDE CLIMATE CHANGE? |
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WE WILL BE IN DISCUSSION WITH OUR ALLIES. PRIME MINISTER BLAIR HAS MADE IT A DISCUSSION ISSUE FOR... |
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AS YOU KNOW AND AS YOU MENTIONED, WHEN YOU AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT A LITTLE BIT, I TOLD... |
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THANK YOU, SENATOR. WE'RE SPENDING $5 BILLION ON THIS ISSUE. SO -- |
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I KNOW. THE RECORD IS VERY, VERY POSITIVE. IT'S JUST THAT WE HAVE NOT EXPLAINED IT VERY WELL. AND... |
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I HAVE TO GET THERE AND LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE. THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF STUDIES OF WHAT TO DO ABOUT... |
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I THINK THAT YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO ASK TWICE ON THAT. YOU RECEIVED SOME INDICATION OF THIS COMMITTEE'S... |
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WE ARE DIGESTING THE HIGH-LEVEL PANEL REPORT AT THIS POINT. WE'RE GOING TO PUT A LOT OF ATTENTION... |
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THANK YOU. THERE'S BEEN CONSIDERABLE DISCUSSION TODAY ABOUT PROLIFERATION OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.... |
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IT IS AN INTERESTING IDEA. HOMELAND SECURITY PEOPLE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THEIR COUNTERPARTS... |
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THANK YOU. |
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SENATOR SARBAIN. -- SENATOR SARBANES. |
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THANK YOU. HOW MUCH, IF YOU WERE SECRETARY OF STATE, DO YOU UNDERSTAND DISCRETION OR AUTHORITY YOU... |
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I WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH PRESIDENTIAL PERSONNEL, BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE FOLKS HAVE BEEN VERY... |
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YOUR SELECTIONS HAVE TO CLEAR PRESIDENTIAL PERSONNEL? |
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THESE ARE PRESIDENTIAL APPOINTMENTS. |
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I KNOW IT HAS ALL BEEN WRITTEN SO OFTEN ABOUT HOW CLOSE YOU ARE TO THE PRESIDENT, YOU DON'T HAVE AS... |
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SENATOR, IT HAS BEEN JUST VERY EASY TO WORK THROUGH PRESIDENTIAL PERSONNEL, IT HAS NOT BEEN AN ISSUE.... |
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IF IT WERE AN ISSUE, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF COMMITMENT, CORRECT? |
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THESE ARE APPOINTMENTS BY THE |
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ALL RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER. MY NEXT QUESTION. I HAVE BEEN CURIOUS ABOUT THE RATIONAL, WHY... |
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WELL, THE RATIONALE, SENATOR, HAS BEEN A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL THAT THERE IS A SEPARATION... |
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WELL, IT'S NOT VERY PRIVATE COUNSEL WHEN YOU GO ON THE NATIONAL MEDIA SHOWS, APPEAR PUBLICLY AND ANSWER... |
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IT IS A LONGSTANDING PRACTICE OF EVERY NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER -- I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN HERE TO ANSWER... |
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WHAT IS YOUR POSITION -- IF YOU WERE SECRETARY OF STATE OF APPEARING BEFORE THE CONGRESS? HOW CAN... |
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SENATOR, I WOULD NO LONGER BE STAFF TO THE PRESIDENT. IF I'M CONFIRMED I WILL BE THE SECRETARY OF... |
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IS IT YOUR VIEW THEN THAT SECRETARY OF STATE WOULD NOT INVOKE -- |
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I BELIEVE THAT THE SECRETARY OF STATE WOULD COME AND TESTIFY BEFORE THE CONGRESS. WHETHER A SECRETARY... |
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WHAT'S YOUR SENSE OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES IF YOU WERE THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO DEAL WITH THE CONGRESS... |
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SENATOR, I WILL CONDUCT THIS IN A COMPLETELY BIPARTISAN WAY. I WILL CHECK, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE... |
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WHAT ABOUT THE HOUSE SIDE? -- BAY VOTE. |
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WHAT ABOUT THE HOUSE SIDE? |
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I BELIEVE IT WAS THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER NEEDED TO DEAL WITH IT IN A BIPARTISAN WAY. |
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ORDINARILY AT THE START OF EACH NEW CONGRESS THE ADMINISTRATION CONDUCTS A REVIEW OF SIGNED TREATIES... |
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THERE ARE PLANS TO DO SO. |
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YOU PLAN TO DO THAT? |
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WE PLAN TO DO THAT, YES. |
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LET ME ASK YOU TO COME BACK TO THE ECONOMIC QUESTIONS. DO YOU THINK THAT IT IS TO AMERICA'S ADVANTAGE... |
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SENATOR, I WILL THINK THESE QUESTIONS BETTER ASKED OF THE TREASURY. I HAVE A STRONG INTEREST IN OUR... |
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WELL, IT GOES BACK TO OUR DISCUSSION THIS MORNING. I FRANKLY CONCLUDED THAT THERE WAS SOME CONCERN... |
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SENATOR, THERE ARE MANY REASONS FOR WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE EURO AND THE... |
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CHINA'S PRESIDENT EMBARKED ON A 12-DAY TOUR OF LATIN AMERICA. HE WOUND UP MAKING COMMITMENTS TO INVEST... |
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WELL, THIS IS AN AREA THAT I THINK BEARS SOME WATCHING AND SOME ACTIVITY, AND I WOULD WORK CAREFULLY... |
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IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THEY SEEM TO BE DOING PRETTY WELL IF THAT'S THE CASE. I MEAN OUR ACCUMULATED... |
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SENATOR, I AGREE WITH YOU AND I THINK THAT THE PRESIDENT WOULD AGREE THAT THE IRISH JU IS FOR THE... |
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THANK YOU. LET ME INDICATE, DR. RICE, I APPRECIATE THE POINT THAT YOU'RE MAKING AS TO WHAT THE SCOPE... |
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ABSOLUTELY. SENATOR, I WILL. |
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THANK, MR. CHAIRMAN. I AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS AND SENATOR SARBANES' COMMENTS AS WELL. THANK YOU... |
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I HAVE NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THE VENEZUELAN PEOPLE. THEY ARE REMARKABLE PEOPLE. I... |
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THERE ARE NOT IN OTHER AREAS? |
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WE SPEAK OUT ABOUT THOSE AS WELL. SOME OF THIS IS A MATTER OF TREND LINES AND WHERE COUNTRIES HAVE... |
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ARE THEIR GOVERNMENTS UNCONSTRUCTIVE? |
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THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT IS NOT UNCONSTRUCTIVE IN A LOT OF AREAS. IT IS CON FLUCTIVE IN TRYING TO --... |
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YOU AND SENATOR BOXER WERE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A DEBATE OVER CREDIBILITY. AND IT SEEMS THAT TRUST... |
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IT'S PRETTY HARD, SENATE, TO FIND SOMETHING POSITIVE. LET ME SAY THIS -- LET ME SAY THIS -- |
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PAKISTAN, RUSSIA, IT SEEMS TO SAY TO MAGNIFY OUR DIFFERENCES TO SOME COUNTRIES AND MAGNIFYING OUR... |
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THE STATE OF BEHAVIOR IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE, THE STATE OF FAIRS IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE IS SUCH... |
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IT SEEMS DISRESPECTFUL TO THE VENEZUELAN PEOPLE. THEY HAVE SPOKEN. |
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THANK YOU. |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. I WILL TRY TO MOVE ALONG ON THIS AS WELL. LET ME PICK UP ON ONE... |
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CERTAINLY, AS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER, I SPOKE A LOT, AND I TRIED TO GET OUTSIDE OF WASHINGTON.... |
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WERE THESE CAMPAIGN STOPS? |
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I WANT TO PLACE THAT WERE NONPARTISAN. I WENT TO WORLD AFFAIR COUNSELLES AND UNIVERSITIES. I WAS... |
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I DON'T WANT TO DWELL ON IT. BUT IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCEDURE IS IN THE... |
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I DID NOT READ THE OPINION. |
| 02:26:34 |
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AND DID YOU HAVE A VIEW AT THE TIME ABOUT THEM AT ALL? |
| 02:26:38 |
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SENATOR, I DID NOT THINK IT -- MY ROLE TO TRY AND GIVE LEGAL ADVICE TO THE PRESIDENT. BUT THAT LEGAL... |
| 02:27:15 |
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YOU WERE AWARE, I PRESUME, THAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT'S CONCERNS ABOUT THESE MEMOS? |
| 02:27:21 |
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I WAS AWARE AND, IN FACT, WE MADE CERTAIN THAT BEFORE THE PRESIDENT MADE A FINAL DECISION ON THIS... |
| 02:27:34 |
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WOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE WITH US WHAT YOUR OPINIONS WERE? |
| 02:27:37 |
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SENATOR, I GAVE MY ADVICE TO THE PRESIDENT ON THIS MATTER AND I REALLY WOULD PREFER NOT TO TALK ABOUT... |
| 02:28:16 |
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LET ME ASK YOU BRIEFLY. LET'S GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS. WE CAN FOOL AROUND WITH THE LANGUAGE. WHAT... |
| 02:28:37 |
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SENATOR, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD WE OR HAVE WE CONDONED TORTURE. AND THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN... |
| 02:29:02 |
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YOU'RE FAMILIAR NOW WITH THE DRAFT OPINION THAT WAS SUBMITTED. NOW THAT YOU KNOW WHAT THE DRAFT OPINION... |
| 02:29:17 |
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I DIDN'T SAY WHAT WAS AWARE OF THE OPINION. I DIDN'T READ THE FULL OPINION, SENATOR. I BELIEVE THAT... |
| 02:30:16 |
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LET ME JUST COME BACK. JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION. IN YOUR VIEW, AS A HUMAN MATTER, THAT WATER BOARDING... |
| 02:30:33 |
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SENATOR, I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC TECHNIQUES. LET ME TALK ABOUT ABU GHRAIB. |
| 02:30:39 |
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IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION EYE' ASKING YOU. |
| 02:30:42 |
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WELL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT -- ASKING ABOUT THE INCIDENTS IN IRAQ. |
| 02:30:48 |
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I'M ASKING ABOUT THE TECHNIQUES THAT WE USED WHETHER OR NOT YOU THINK IT IS TORTURE OR NOT. |
| 02:30:55 |
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WHETHER OR NOT INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR INTERNATIONAL OBLIGATIONS AND THE --... |
| 02:31:12 |
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THAT'S YOUR ANSWER THERE. IT'S A DISAPPOINTING ANSWER, I MUST SAY. THIS IS THE FACE OF U.S. FOREIGN... |
| 02:31:58 |
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SENATOR, I MAINTAIN THE COMMITMENT AND WILL MAINTAIN THE COMMITMENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO NORMS... |
| 02:32:11 |
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WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE SAW ON TELEVISION THAT A CAPTURED AMERICAN WAS BEEN SUBJECTED TO THESE KIND... |
| 02:32:21 |
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SENATOR, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA -- AMERICAN PERSONNEL, ARE NOT ENGAGED IN TERRORISM AGAINST... |
| 02:32:32 |
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I'M NOT ASKING IF THEY ARE CHARGED WITH. HOW WOULD YOU REACT? |
| 02:32:35 |
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WE EXPECT AMERICANS TO BE -- BECAUSE WE ARE PARTIES TO THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS, WE EXPECT AMERICANS... |
| 02:32:46 |
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DO YOU CONSIDER THESE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES TO BE NOT PART OF THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS? |
| 02:32:54 |
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WE THINK THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE -- THE AL QAEDA PEOPLE NOT PART OF THE GENEVA. IT WOULD HAVE WEAKENED... |
| 02:33:12 |
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AT THE END OF ALL OF THESE HEARINGS I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO SPEND ABOUT 15 MINUTES ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN... |
| 02:35:03 |
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THE PRESIDENT'S ENERGY PLAN -- EMERGENCY PLAN WAS SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH THE MOST 15 AFFECTED COUNTRIES.... |
| 02:36:05 |
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TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THIS, PLEASE. THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC IS ON THE SAME ISLAND. HAITI IS COVERED,... |
| 02:38:04 |
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SENATOR ALLEN? |
| 02:38:07 |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT COMPETITION AND CORRUPTION. LET ME FOLLOW-UP... |
| 02:39:27 |
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SENATOR, LET ME BE VERY CLEAR. I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SAY, ABU GHRAIB WAS UNACCEPTABLE. IT WAS ABUSE.... |
| 02:39:55 |
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THANK YOU. I WANTED TO KNOW YOUR RESPONSE. YOU'RE GETTING TIED IN ALL THE LEGALISTICS THERE. ON THE... |
| 02:42:54 |
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ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE BEEN VERY ACTIVE AND IN FACT VERY AGGRESSIVE WITH CHINA ABOUT THE PROBLEM TRYING... |
| 02:44:56 |
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WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND I KNOW THIS WHOLE COMMITTEE WILL... |
| 02:46:06 |
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COME OF THE COUNTRIES OF THAT REGION HAVE BEGUN TO INTEGRATE IN SOME WAYS. A NUMBER OF THEM HAVE WENT... |
| 02:47:36 |
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THANK YOU, DR. RICE. MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANT TO SAY IN CONCLUSION HERE, DR. RICE, THANK YOU FOR... |
| 02:48:21 |
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THANK YOU. |
| 02:48:25 |
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LET ME JUST BROACH WITH THE COMMITTEE TWO SCENARIOS, ONE OF WHICH WE WOULD HAVE A BUSINESS MEETING... |
| 02:49:06 |
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I WOULD LIKE TO SAY MYSELF THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS THAT THE QUESTIONING IS SO GOOD ON BOTH SIDES... |
| 02:49:27 |
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WELL, WE'LL COME BACK IN THE MORNING IN THAT EVENT IN ANY WAY. WE'LL CONTINUE THIS EVENING SO THAT... |
| 02:49:35 |
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OK. |
| 02:49:39 |
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MY THOUGHT WAS JUST SIMPLE WE MIGHT HAVE VOTED AT THEnr END OF THE QUESTIONING THIS EVENING. THERE... |
| 02:49:54 |
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ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE'LL CONTINUE QUESTIONING TOMORROW AS WELL AND THEN HAVE THE VOTE? |
| 02:49:58 |
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IN THE EVENT THAT WE ARE STILL MEETING TOMORROW, IT WOULD BE OPEN FOR QUQBaIONS TOMORROW MORNING.... |
| 02:50:08 |
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MR. CHAIRMAN? |
| 02:50:10 |
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JUST FROM THE SENATOR FROM CALIFORNIA, I USE THE TERM CROKSE NOT IN A DEROGATORY SENSE. IT'S NORMAL.... |
| 02:50:23 |
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THANK YOU, SENATOR. |
| 02:50:24 |
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VERY WELL. |
| 02:50:25 |
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SENATOR KERRY? |
| 02:50:27 |
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IF I WOULD GET IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS -- I WONDER, MR. CHAIRMAN -- I KNOW I HEARD DR. RICE WILLING... |
| 02:50:44 |
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I'M PERFECTLY HAPPY TO STAY, SENATOR. I LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER EXCHANGE. I'D LIKE TO LOOK FURTHER... |
| 02:50:53 |
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FINE. I'M READING FROM AN ARTICLE ON DECEMBER 15 WHICH SAYS, INVOKING COMMENTS BY THEN PRESIDENTIAL... |
| 02:55:08 |
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SENATOR, I KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING TO DO EXACTLY THAT. THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS THAT THE SCHEDULE... |
| 02:55:50 |
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WHAT YOU JUST SAID DOESN'T RING WITH WHAT HAS HAPPENED. I MEAN, WE SECURED MORE NUCLEAR MATERIAL IN... |
| 02:56:44 |
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IT IS PART, SENATOR, PART OF A CHECKLIST, WHICH IS A -- WHICH IS A VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE OF WORKING... |
| 02:57:08 |
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BUT THERE'S A -- GLOBAL DELOAMASY, AS YOU KNOW WELL, IS DEFINED BY THE ISSUES THAT THE PRESIDENT OF... |
| 02:57:33 |
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THE CHECKLIST WAS PUBLIC, SENATOR. HE'S MADE PROPOSALS FOR HOW WE MIGHT DEAL WITH THE MULTIPLE ASPECTS... |
| 02:58:02 |
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IT'S THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. |
| 02:58:04 |
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SENATOR, THERE -- THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT WE'VE WORKED OUT JOINTLY WITH THE RUSSIANS ON WHAT CAN BE... |
| 02:58:51 |
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I APPRECIATE THAT. I HOPE YOU WILL. A SECRETARY INITIATIVE THAT COULD BE TAKEN WITH RESPECT TO THIS... |
| 02:59:54 |
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SENATOR, I'D LOVE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT YOUR PLAN AND WHAT IT ENTAILS AND TO SEE WHAT... |
| 03:00:27 |
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WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PURR SEEING AN -- PURSUING AN EFFORT WHICH MANY NATIONS SUPPORT? THERE IS... |
| 03:00:47 |
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IN THE FISCAL TREATY -- WE'VE SAID THAT WE FAVOR THE NEGOTIATION OF THE TREATY. WE'VE BEEN PREPARED... |
| 03:01:17 |
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AND WHAT ABOUT ANY INITIATIVES WITH PRESIDENT MUSHARRAF AND THE INDIANS WITH RESPECT TO FAIL-SAFE... |
| 03:01:27 |
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YES. |
| 03:01:30 |
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IF YOU WERE TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL COUP IN PAKISTAN YOU COULD HAVE CONCEIVABLY NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN THE... |
| 03:01:59 |
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SENATOR, WE HAVE NOTED THAT PROBLEM AND WE'LL TRY TO DEAL WITH IT. I DON'T WANT TO TALK IN OPEN SESSION... |
| 03:02:07 |
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OK. I RAISE IT AGAIN. I MUST SAY THAT IN MY PRIVATE ABBREVIATION AS A NOMINEE I FOUND THE ANSWERS... |
| 03:02:23 |
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WE'RE VERY AWARE OF THE PROBLEM, SENATOR, AND WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS BUT I REALLY WOULD PREFER... |
| 03:02:29 |
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OK. LET ME GET TO THE QUESTION OF NORTH KOREA. NORTH KOREA HAS QUAT RUPELED THEIR WEAPONRY -- |
| 03:02:40 |
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I'M SORRY. PROCEED. |
| 03:02:41 |
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IT'S FINE. I'LL COME BACK. |
| 03:02:45 |
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VENTURE C.I.A. GOING TO DECLARE OF RECESS OF 10 MINUTES. WE'VE BEEN AT IT FOR OVER THREE HOURS. ... |
| 03:03:11 |
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9:00? |
| 03:03:14 |
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YES. WE'LL HAVE A RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES IN THE ELENT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO RECESS AT THIS POINT.... |
| 03:04:42 |
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A SHORT 10-MINUTE BREAK HERE. HERE ARE THE PHONE NUMBERS. IF YOU SUPPORT DEMOCRATS CALL US ON 202-585-3880.... |
| 03:06:30 |
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ALL RIGHT. PORTLAND, OREGON, WE'LL STAY IN YOUR AREA FOR A CALLER FROM GRANT'S PASS. HI. CALLER:... |
| 03:07:17 |
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CALLER, LET ME DIRECT YOU BACK TO THE CONFIRMATION HEARING. WHAT ARE YOU SEEN SO FAR? WHAT HAS CAUGHT... |
| 03:07:52 |
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OK. YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS HEARING TODAY. CALLER: THANK GOD FOR BARBARA BOXER. THIS IS NOT ABOUT DEMOCRATS... |
| 03:08:56 |
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ALL RIGHT. THANKS. THE HEARING HAS GONE ON FOR ABOUT SEVEN HOURS. AND RICE HAS BEEN ANSWERED THOSE... |
| 03:09:14 |
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TEXAS, TURN DOWN YOUR TV SET AND TELL US WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THIS HEARING TODAY. |
| 03:09:18 |
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WELL, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO WATCH IT FOR ABOUT 45 MINUTES. BUT I'M CALLING JUST TO REGISTER MY SUPPORT... |
| 03:09:55 |
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OK. THANKS A LOT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO OXFORD, MISSISSIPPI. CALLER: I WANT TO COMMEND JOHN KERRY QUESTIONING... |
| 03:10:40 |
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OK. THANKS. THERE HAS BEEN ONE FULL ROUND OF QUESTIONS AT THIS HEARING. THE SECOND ROUND WILL BE ... |
| 03:11:15 |
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TURN DOWN YOUR TV AND START YOUR COMMENTS, PLEASE. GOT TO TURN THAT TV ALL THE WAY OFF, WESTLAKE.... |
| 03:11:36 |
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WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS HEARING? HOW DID SHE DO? CALLER: WE, I THINK SHE DID VERY WELL. SHE... |
| 03:11:49 |
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WHAT WAS MEMORABLE FOR YOU? CALLER: THAT SHE IS BEHIND THE PRESIDENT 100%. |
| 03:11:55 |
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DO YOU THINK SHE'LL MAKE A GOOD SECRETARY OF STATE? CALLER: WELL, I DON'T NORMALLY THINK A WOMAN WOULD... |
| 03:12:06 |
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WHY WOULDN'T YOU THINK THAT A WOMAN WOULD MAKE A GOOD SECRETARY OF STATE? CALLER: I THINK SOME OF... |
| 03:12:21 |
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ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT WE'LL HEAR FROM JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. |
| 03:12:29 |
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GO AHEAD. YOU'RE ON THE AIR. CALLER: YES, I WANT TO CALL AND SUPPORT PRESIDENT BUSH AND SUPPORT CONDOLEEZZA... |
| 03:12:59 |
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CALIFORNIA SENATOR BARBARA BOXER THERE ON YOUR SCREEN. HER ROUND OF QUESTIONS WILL BE PART OF WHAT... |
| 03:14:04 |
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CRAWFORDSVILLE, INDIANA. CALLER: YES, I'D LIKE TO GIVE MY SUPPORT TO CONDOLEEZZA RICE. I THINK SHE'S... |
| 03:14:29 |
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BEL-AIR, MARYLAND? CALLER: YES. I AM DISAPPOINTED THAT CONDOLEEZZA RICE CANNOT ANSWER A QUESTION... |
| 03:15:22 |
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EL CAN HOUSTON, CALIFORNIA. -- CAHOUN, CALIFORNIA. CALLER: SHE'S A VERY INTELLIGENT LADY, CONDOLEEZZA... |
| 03:16:14 |
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MIAMI, FLORIDA? CALLER: YES. I'M A DEMOCRAT BUT I THINK I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN HER. BUT MY WORRY... |
| 03:16:53 |
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THANK YOU. BY THE WAY, REMINDER THAT ALL OF THESE CONFIRMATION HEARINGS THIS SEASON -- THERE ARE NINE... |
| 03:17:27 |
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LIKE WHAT? CALLER: WELL, YOU SEE JOHN KERRY AND YOU SEE HIM. HE LOOKS LIKE AL GORE. HE LOOKS LIKE... |
| 03:18:25 |
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ALL RIGHT. MARYLAND, WE'LL LEAVE IT THERE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO SOUTH DAKOTA. CALLER: HELLO. I WOULD... |
| 03:19:36 |
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OK. APPRECIATE THE CALLS. REMINDER WE'LL SHOW PORTIONS AT TODAY'S HEARINGS AT 8:00 TONIGHT AND BACK... |
| 03:19:58 |
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THE HEARING IS CALLED TO ORDER AGAIN. |
| 03:20:01 |
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THANK YOU. FIRST, DR. RICE, I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR STRONG REMARKS ABOUT THE INTERNATIONAL... |
| 03:23:40 |
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I THINK COLUMBIA HAS OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP IN PRESIDENT URIBE. HE HAS MOBILIZED COLUMBIAN SOCIETY,... |
| 03:25:59 |
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YOU CAN'T GIVE A FREE PASS TO FOLKS WITH BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS. WE NEED TO SOMEHOW HAVE AN ABILITY... |
| 03:26:13 |
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THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THEY CAN DO NEXT. |
| 03:26:15 |
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I HOPE WE WOULD HAVE GUIDANCE FROM STATE DOWN THE ROAD. JUST SOME FOLLOW-UP IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN... |
| 03:26:33 |
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I THINK THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO EXPLORE WITH COLOMBIA ITS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.... |
| 03:27:31 |
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ONE OF THE AREAS WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IS CUTTING DOWN ON THE HECTARESco COCAINE COCOA BEING GROWN... |
| 03:28:24 |
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I AGREE, SENATOR. IN FACT, WE ASKED THE COLOMBIANS AND THEY AGREED TO TALK TO THE AFGHANS ABOUT THEIR... |
| 03:29:47 |
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WE SAW LAST WEEK GREAT SUCCESS IN AFGHAN STAP. SOME PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT THE HUSTLE FACTOR. PEOPLE... |
| 03:30:24 |
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THANK YOU. SENATOR FEINGOLD. |
| 03:30:27 |
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THANKS FOR ALL YOUR TIME TODAY. I WANT TO START THIS ROUND. IT WILL NOT BE A FULL ROUND. BUT I DO... |
| 03:33:21 |
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THANK YOU, SENATOR. FIRST, LET ME TRY TO BE CLEAR. THE UNITED STATES DOESN'T AND CAN'T CONDONE TORTURE.... |
| 03:37:05 |
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I THINK YOUR COMMENTS ARE FAIR WITH REGARD TO THE LACK OF COOPERATION FROM OTHER COUNTRYS IN PAST... |
| 03:38:24 |
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I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT. THE 150 COUNT, FUNCTION 150 IS WHAT FUNDS... |
| 03:39:46 |
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WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I DO UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS THAT THE COUNTRY IS OPERATING UNDER AT... |
| 03:40:31 |
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DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE PART OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY EXEMPTIONS? JUST... |
| 03:40:44 |
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I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING, SENATOR IS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PERFORM THE FUNCTIONS THAT WE NEED TO PERFORM.... |
| 03:41:01 |
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THERE'S A LOT OF AREAS WHERE PEOPLE WANT MONEY, AND THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THAT'S THERE. AND I DO BELIEVE... |
| 03:41:42 |
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RTSNA, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST MANAGEMENT AUDIT WAS. AND I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT THEY LOOKED AT PRIORITIES... |
| 03:42:30 |
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I'M GOING TO BE PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THAT PART OF IT. BECAUSE OF CHAIRMANSHIP OF MANAGEMENT... |
| 03:42:53 |
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I AGREE, SENATOR. LET ME JUST SAY ON THE BUDGET MATTER AGAIN, WE CAN MEET OUR OBLIGATIONS, IF THERE... |
| 03:43:21 |
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AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE DOING THIS STUFF. I KNOW IF BOB ZELICK COMES OVER.... |
| 03:44:02 |
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I WILL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. I KNOW WE NEED TO CREATE THE OFFICE. I KNOW THEY LOOKED INTO CREATING... |
| 03:44:48 |
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IT'S GREAT BECAUSE YOUR PEOPLE WILL WANT TO KNOW YOU QUARE. |
| 03:44:52 |
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THE FIRST BRIEFING I HAD WAS WITH THE UNDERSECRETARY OF MANAGEMENT BECAUSE I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND... |
| 03:45:11 |
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ONE OTHER ISSUE DEALS WITH MANAGEMENT. OUR SUBCOMMITTEE HAD A HEARING ON CRIME AND CORRUPTION. YOU... |
| 03:45:57 |
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THANK YOU, SENATOR. I'LL LOOK INTO THAT. |
| 03:46:01 |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH SENATOR VOINOVICH. SENATOR BOXER. |
| 03:46:05 |
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THANKS SO MUCH. I'M GOING TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THEN CONTINUE QUESTIONING ON THE TORTURE ISSUE.... |
| 03:48:44 |
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TO PLACE IN THE RECORD. |
| 03:48:46 |
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AT A PRESS CONFERENCE, HE SAID, "THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE'RE STILL IN A WAR AND NOT EVERYTHING... |
| 03:50:15 |
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I SAW -- I DON'T KNOW IF I SAW ALL OF THEM BUT I SAW ENOUGH. TO KNOW THAT IT WAS A STAIN ON OUR COUNTRY.... |
| 03:50:27 |
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WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. I WENT UP TO SEE THE PHOTOS. AT MY AGE, WE TALK STRESS TESTS ALSO BECAUSE... |
| 03:54:53 |
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SENATOR, IT WAS OUR VIEW IN THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THIS IS COVERED IN THE DEFENSE BILL. |
| 03:55:03 |
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THIS IS NOT IN THE MILITARY. |
| 03:55:08 |
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BUT ALL AGENCIES WERE COVERED IN THE DEFENSE, SO INTELLIGENCE WAS COVERED. |
| 03:55:15 |
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NO. |
| 03:55:16 |
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THAT WAS OUR VIEW. SECONDLY, WE DID NOT WANT TO AFFORD TO PEOPLE WHO SHOULDN'T ENJOY CERTAIN PROTECTIONS... |
| 03:55:46 |
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EXCUSE ME, I WANT TO CLARIFY. GOT IT. THANKS, GO AHEAD. |
| 03:56:00 |
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NOBODY CONDONES TOR CHEW. NOBODY CONDONES WHAT WAS DONE AT ABU GHRAIB. IN FACT, YOU HAD EVERYONE FROM... |
| 03:57:18 |
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SO WOULD YOU THEN IMPOSE THAT LANGUAGE IN THE DEFENSE BILL? |
| 03:57:24 |
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THE PRESIDENT SIGNED IT. |
| 03:57:25 |
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NO, NO. I'M ASKING ABOUT YOU. |
| 03:57:28 |
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THE PRESIDENT SIGNED IT. |
| 03:57:29 |
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YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO THE QUESTION. YOU SAID YOU DON'T WANT TO EXTEND THESE INTERNATIONAL LAWS ... |
| 03:57:53 |
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OF COURSE I SUPPORT IT IN THE DEFENSE BILL. |
| 03:57:56 |
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BUT YOU DON'T IN THE INTELLIGENCE BILL? |
| 03:57:58 |
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WE THINK THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES ARE COVERED IN THE DEFENSE BILL. IT WAS UNNECESSARY TO HAVE IT --... |
| 03:58:03 |
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BUT THEN YOU GO ON TO SAY THAT THESE AGREEMENTS SHOULD NOT BE COVERED. |
| 03:58:07 |
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I WAS MAKING A BROADER POINT, SENATOR, WHICH IS THAT THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS SHOULD NOT BE EXTENDED... |
| 03:58:25 |
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THE PERSON WHO WROTE THIS, DICK DURBIN, SENATOR DURBIN, SENIOR SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS, HE OFFERED THE... |
| 04:00:11 |
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SENATOR, IT'S THE LAW OF THE LAND. |
| 04:00:13 |
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AND I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE EXPLAINED IT. BECAUSE BY SAYING WE DIDN'T NEED IT IT WAS IN THE DEFENSE... |
| 04:01:02 |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR BOXER. I WILL CALL ON SENATOR OBAMA. AFTER A CONSULTATION WITH MANY ... |
| 04:02:17 |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. DR. RICE, I APPRECIATE YOUR STAMINA. I'VE GOT ONE VERY SPECIFIC... |
| 04:03:38 |
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THE M.C.A. IS A VERY IMPORTANT INITIATIVE FOR US. AND IT TAKES TIME TO NEGOTIATE COMPACTS WITH THESE... |
| 04:04:18 |
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OK. THE REASON I MAKE THIS POINT, I THINK, IS NOT THAT I WANT US TO SPEND MONEY WILLY NILLY AND IN... |
| 04:09:30 |
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WELL, IT'S A VERY INTERESTING QUESTION, SENATOR. IT'S ONE THAT IS ACTUALLY DEBATED IN ACADEMY AROUND... |
| 04:09:43 |
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OF COURSE, THIS IS NOT ACADEMIC BECAUSE WE HAVE TROOPS OVER THERE. |
| 04:09:47 |
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THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT. WHEN YOU'RE NOT DEBATING IT IN THE ACADEMY, IT'S A BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO... |
| 04:11:41 |
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I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU BUT I KNOW I'M GOING TO RUNNING OUT OF TIME. I SEE THAT YELLOW LIGHT... |
| 04:12:49 |
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YES. |
| 04:12:51 |
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AND WE'RE NOW GOING TO BE SPENDING AT LEAST $200 BILLION IN IRAQ AND WE'VE LOST OVER 1,300 LIVES.... |
| 04:13:27 |
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SENATOR, I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT IF I COULD JUST SPEAK TO THE MOVING TARGET NOTION, BECAUSE I DON'T... |
| 04:14:09 |
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ABSOLUTELY. BUT AGAIN, I KNOW I'M OUT OF TIME HERE, THAT'S TRUE IN SUDAN. THERE'S A LOT OF ANGER... |
| 04:15:09 |
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SENATOR, I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I HAVE TO SAY I DON'T THINK IT'S A VAGUE LINK. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT... |
| 04:15:32 |
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I THINK THAT'S FAIR AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS, BUT I'M JUST TRYING... |
| 04:16:31 |
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THANK YOU. |
| 04:16:32 |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR OBAMA. I WILL PASS ON THIS ROUND AND RECOGNIZE SENATOR DODD. |
| 04:16:40 |
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAVE A NUMBER OF AREAS TO COVER. LET ME MENTION, FIRST OF ALL, ON A POSITIVE... |
| 04:17:01 |
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DECEMBER. |
| 04:17:02 |
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I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND WILLINGNESS TO DO THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT IN MEETING... |
| 04:21:21 |
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WELL, WE ARE AND HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT. WE HAVE NOW FRIENDS WHO HAVE SIMILAR VIEWS OF INTERFLANNEL ... |
| 04:22:47 |
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DON'T BECOME LIKE THEM. |
| 04:22:48 |
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I AGREE. AND SENATOR, IF WE WERE LIKE THEM, WE WOULDN'T HAVE PUNISHED THE PEOPLE FOR ABU GHRAIB. ... |
| 04:23:45 |
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MAKE SURE YOU TALK TO US ON THESE TREATIES BECAUSE THEY'RE IMPORTANT. |
| 04:23:49 |
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ABSOLUTELY. |
| 04:23:50 |
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LET ME JUMP QUICKLY BECAUSE THE TIME IS GOING TO MOVE HERE. SENATOR MARTINEZ AND OTHERS HAVE RAISED... |
| 04:25:37 |
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WELL, SENATOR, THERE ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE THAT THAT IS THE CASE. |
| 04:25:42 |
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DIDN'T IT WORK IN PART IN EASTERN EUROPE? |
| 04:25:45 |
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HE WILL WITH, IT WORKED IN PART, BUT IT WORKED AFTER A LONG TIME IN WHICH THOSE COUNTRIES WERE ACTUALLY... |
| 04:25:57 |
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GRANTED. |
| 04:25:59 |
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THESE WERE COUNTRY WHERE IT WAS POSSIBLE TO ACTUALLY ACCESS A CIVIL SOCIETY. IT WAS POSSIBLE TO ACCESS... |
| 04:26:12 |
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LET HIM TURN ME DOWN. WHY ARE YOU TELLING ME I CAN'T GO? I CAN GO TO NORTH KOREA. YOU WOULD LET ME... |
| 04:26:21 |
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YES, IF YOU WOULD LIKE IT. |
| 04:26:22 |
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THERE'S NOTHING THAT PROHIBITS ME. I CAN GO TO IRAN, IRAQ. THE ONLY COUNTRY YOU WON'T LET ME GO TO... |
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BECAUSE THE CUBAN REGIME WOULD USE YOUR TRAVEL AND THE SKIMMING OFF THE TOP OF THAT TRAVEL -- |
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NORTH KOREA WOULDN'T DO THAT? |
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TO CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN THE HOLD OF THAT BRUTAL REGIME. AND THAT IS WHAT CASTRO DOES. HE USES HUMANITARIAN... |
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YOU ARE NOT GOING TO TELL ME YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION AND TELL ME ALL THE OTHER PLACES... |
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NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO NORTH KOREA. CASTRO HAS MADE A LIVING OF SIPHONNING MONEY OFF OF... |
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THANK YOU. |
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SENATOR CHAFEE. |
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I PASS. |
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SENATOR KERRY. |
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU, DR. RICE FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND HANGING IN... |
| 04:28:11 |
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I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT. |
| 04:28:13 |
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HE SAYS, ZWROUSE QUOTE, HE TALKS ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION CONDUCTING SECRET RECONNAISSANCE MISSIONS... |
| 04:29:39 |
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IS IT FILLED WITH INACCURACIES AND ITS CREDIBILITY IS SORELY LACKING. LET ME JUST SPEAK TO THE HANDLING... |
| 04:30:28 |
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WHAT ABOUT OUR OWN INTERESTS AN EFFORTS WITH RESPECT TO A.Q. CHARN? |
| 04:30:35 |
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OUR OWN INTERESTS ARE BEING WELL SERVED BY THE FACT THAT A.Q. KHAN IS OFF THE MARKET, THAT WE ARE... |
| 04:31:01 |
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ARE THEY BEING SERVED IF WE DON'T HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THEM? |
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WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH PAKISTAN ON DEALING WITH THE A.Q. KHAN MATTER.... |
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BUT ARE THEY BEING SERVED IF WE DON'T HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THEM? |
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WE ARE BEING SERVED AT THIS |
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ADEQUATELY? |
| 04:31:28 |
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WE ARE GETTING THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THE A.Q. KHAN NETWORK. SENATOR, I DON'T KNOW... |
| 04:31:47 |
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AND WITH RESPECT TO IRAN, ARE YOU ALSO DENYING OR DISCOUNTING ANY OF THE ALLEGATIONS IN THIS ARTICLE?... |
| 04:31:54 |
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THE ARTICLE HAS -- IT IS INACCURATE. |
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WITH RESPECT TO IRAN? |
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THE ARTICLE IS, AS DEFENSE SIDE, INACCURATE. |
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WITH RESPECT TO IRAN? |
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SENATOR, THE ARTICLE DOESN'T REPRESENT OUR POLICIES TOWARD IRAN OR OUR EXPECTATIONS OF POLICIES TOWARD... |
| 04:32:16 |
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COMING BACK IF I MAY FOR A MINUTE TO IRAQ, WHAT STEPS WERE YOU GOING TO TAKE IN THE IMMEDIACY OF YOUR... |
| 04:32:48 |
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THE IRAQIS ARE TRYING TO PUT IN PLACE A MEANS FOR POLITICAL RECONCILIATION TO THE DEGREE THAT WHAT... |
| 04:32:59 |
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YOU DON'T THINK WE HAVE A SPECIFIC ROLE TO PLAY WITH THE EUROPEANS AND ARAB COMMUNITY? |
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WE CERTAINLY HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY AND WE HAVE PLAYED THAT ROLE IN DOING WHAT WE CAN TO ENCOURAGE CONTACTS... |
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I AGREE WITH THAT COMPLETELY, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT I'M GETTING AT. BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN, IS AND IS ... |
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WELL, I THINK THAT THEY ARE FOCUSED. I DO THINK THEY ARE VERY ACTIVE IN REACHING OUT. ALL THAT WE... |
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I KNOW THEY ARE NOT. BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT I WAS IN JORDAN THE NIGHT BEFORE THAT MEETING, I MET... |
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SENATOR, I THINK WE ARE DOING BETTER THAN THAT. THIS WON'T BE THE FIRST TIME THAT COUNTRIES THROUGH... |
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ACTUALLY I DID, AND I SUPPORTED THAT IF YOU RECALL. |
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I KNOW YOU SUPPORTED IT. BUT MANY DIDN'T THINK THEY WOULD EVER RECONCILE POSTUNE AND THE OTHERS. |
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BUT THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT IN A LOT OF WAYS AND THAT IS WHAT CONCERNS A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING... |
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WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SAYING TO THEM IS THAT THEY CAN TRANSLATE THAT CONCERN INTO ACTION. BECAUSE THIS... |
| 04:41:18 |
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BUT IT IS ANOTHER THING FOR THEM TO PUT THEIR POLITICAL NECKS ON THE LINE WHEN THEY HAVE SEEN THE... |
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I APPRECIATE THAT, NOR. I JUST WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT WE ARE REACH OUTING AND WE ARE ENCOURAGING INTERNATIONAL... |
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I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS BUT I SEE MY COLLEAGUE WAITING SO I WILL PASS AND COME BACK. |
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I'M JUST HERE TO KEEP THE CHAIRMAN COMPANY. |
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SENATOR VOINOVICH PASSES AND REVERTS BACK TO SENATOR KERRY. |
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THANK YOU. NORTH KOREA. THERE ARE A LOT OF OBSERVERS -- AND I HEARD THIS THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN... |
| 04:44:41 |
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I THINK, SENATOR, THAT THE NORTH KOREANS SHOULD BE BE, SHOULD BE WELL AWARE THAT THE CRATES HAS NO... |
| 04:47:56 |
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THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT ONE HEARS FROM SOME OF THE OTHER PARTIES TO THE TALKS THEMSELVES. THEY... |
| 04:48:30 |
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WELL, WE STILL BELIEVE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN RESOLVE DIPLOMATICICALLY -- TCHATLY. OF... |
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GIVEN THE INTRANSIGENCE AND CHEATING WHY DOES THIS LEND ITSELF TO BEING SOLVED DIPLOMATICLY MORE THAN... |
| 04:48:57 |
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BECAUSE DESPITE THE PROBLEMS WITH NORTH KOREA IT IS NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MIDDLE EAST. WE HAVE... |
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I'M TALKING ABOUT BEFORE WE WENT TWICE. WE ARE WORKING ON ONCE. |
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WELL, THEY INVADED KUWAIT. |
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DURING THE W.M.D. INSPECTION PROCESS. |
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WELL THE W.M.D. INSPECTION PROCESS WAS NOT GETTING ANYWHERE. I THINK THE INSPECTORS WILL TELL YOU... |
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I THINK THEY SAID THEY WERE PARTIALLY IN COMPLAINSED -- COMPLIRNSE AND PARTIALLY OUT. |
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WELL PARTIALLY WOULDN'T GOOD ENOUGH WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT SOMEBODY THAT HAD USED WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.... |
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THE DIFFERENCE IS WHY COULDN'T YOU HAVE GOTTEN FULL COMPLIANCE? YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER BECAUSE... |
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WELL, I DON'T THINK YOU ARE GOING TO GET FULL COMPLIANCE FROM SADDAM HUSSEIN. |
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WE KNOW YOU DON'T THINK THAT. |
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WELL, WITH AMERICAN AND COALITION FORCES BUILDING UP ON THE SHORES HE STILL DECIDED NOT TO COMPLY... |
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BUT, AGAIN, THIS GOES INTO PROCESS WHICH I DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO TO FOR A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT REASONS.... |
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I DIDN'T SAY I WAS CONFIDENT THAT IT WOULD BE RESOLVED. I SAID I THOUGHT WE STILL HAD ROOM FOR A DIPLOMATIC... |
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HOW DO YOU DISTINGUISH THAT FROM IRAN? |
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YES. AND THE POSSIBILITIES THERE. |
| 04:51:30 |
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WELL, FOR ONE THING WITH IRAN WE ARE DEALING WITH A COUNTRY THAT IS NOT NEARLY AS ISOLATED AS NORTH... |
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DO YOU BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD BE BETTER ADVANTAGED WITH RESPECT TO IRAN IF WE WERE TO BE EITHER LEADING... |
| 04:52:36 |
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I THINK THE BRITISH, FRENCH AND GERMANS KNOW THAT WE ARE COORNATHE WITH THEM, THAT WE -- WE ARE SKEPTICAL... |
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WHY NOT BE PART OF IT? |
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I THINK IT IS ALWAYS VERY IMPORTANT, SENATOR, THAT THE IRANIANS KNOW THAT THE UNITED STATES IS NOT... |
| 04:53:22 |
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BUT YOU ALWAYS HAVE THAT OPTION. ISN'T THE OPTION OF SANCTIONS AND GREATER ACTION ALWAYS ON THE TABLE... |
| 04:53:28 |
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I THINK WE THINK THE BEST COURSE NOW IS TO LET THE EU-3 SEE IF THEY CAN GET THIS AGREEMENT. |
| 04:53:38 |
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IS THIS A GOOD COP BAD COP ROUTINE OR SOMETHING MORE THOUGHTFUL? |
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I THINK IT NOT A GOOD THING FOR US TO BE INVOLVED IN NEGOTIATIONS ABOUT WHICH WE ARE SKEPTICAL. AND... |
| 04:53:54 |
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IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOUR OWN SKEPTICISM BREEDS A FAILURE? |
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I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK IF THE IRANIANS ARE GOING TO LIVE UP TO THEIR INTERNATIONAL OBLIGATIONS,... |
| 04:54:11 |
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THE IRAQI STABLIZATION GROUP THAT YOU WERE PUT IN CHARGE OF OCTOBER OF 2003, BY ALMOST EVERYBODY'S... |
| 04:54:43 |
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THE IRAQ STABLIZATION GROUP WAS AN INTERNAL N.S.C. GROUP. NOT AN INTERAGENCY GROUP. |
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YOU HAVE A HALF DOZEN AGENCIES THAT WERE PART OF IT THAT WERE REPORTING TO YOU AS |
| 04:54:55 |
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NO. THE ROLE OF THE IRAQ STABLIZATION GROUP WAS TO IMPROVE THE INFORMATION FLOW DURING THE TIME WE... |
| 04:56:10 |
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WELL, IN THE "WASHINGTON POST", THEY CHARACTERIZED IT AS THE NEW GROUP TO BE LED BY CONDOLEEZZA RICE... |
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LET ME MAKE THE DISTINCTION. THE IRAQ STABLIZATION GROUP WAS AN INTRANSC -- |
| 04:56:30 |
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I UNDERSTAND THAT. |
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IT REACHED OUT AND TRY TO HELP THE C.P.A. BY ENTRYING TOGETHER INTERAGENCY TEAMS WHEN IT WAS NECESSARY... |
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WAS THIS AN EFFORT TO TRY TO STRAIGHTEN OUT WHAT THE MILITARY ITSELF WAS NOT ABLE TO DO OR NOT DOING?... |
| 04:57:09 |
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IT WAS AN EFFORT TO MOVE FROM A STAGE AT WHICH HAD BEEN ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY DEFENSE DEPARTMENT AND... |
| 04:57:20 |
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HOW SUCCESSFUL WOULD YOU SAY IT WAS? |
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I THINK IT WAS SUCCESSFUL IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. IF YOU LOOK AT SEVERAL PROJECTS, THE CURRENCY REFORM,... |
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HAS BEEN -- |
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I THINK IT HAS BEEN SMOOTHER WITH AN EMBASSY IN PLACE THAT CAN BE THE COORDINATION IN PROCESS. |
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HOW DOES THAT GO ALONG WE YOU SAID THE PRESIDENT SAID MILITARY IS A SPECIAL INSTRUMENT IT IS LETHAL... |
| 04:58:41 |
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WELL, WE FOUND OURSELVES BUILDING A CIVILIAN SOCIETY AND WE FRANKLY AS COUNTRY DON'T REALLY HAVE THE... |
| 04:59:36 |
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DO YOU THINK THAT THAT MISJUDGMENT ABOUT WHAT IT CAN OR CAN'T DO -- AND I SAY MISJUDGMENT IN BROAD... |
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WELL, WE HAVE BEEN AT WAR AND WE HAVE HAD TO USE OUR FORCES AND USE THEY WILL HARD. I THINK THAT SECRETARY... |
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I KNOW THAT SENATOR LUGAR HAS LONG BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. A LOT OF US ON THE COMMITTEE HAVE. ... |
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TERROR IS THE TOOL OF ISLAMIC EXTREMISM. |
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YOU WOULDN'T REALLY THINK OF IT AS AS AN IDEOLOGY. |
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I THINK OF ISLAM REAMISM AS |
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SO DO I. TERROR IS THE -- |
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TERROR IS THE -- RIGHT. WE HAVE TAKED A LOT ABOUT THIS. THE FACT IS HAD EARLY ON WHAT WE HAVE HAD... |
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DO YOU THINK WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF REACHING OUT TO MODERN ISLAM, BRINGING CLERICS, IMAMS, ETC.,... |
| 05:04:52 |
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I DO THINK THAT INTERFAITH EFFORTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND SHOULD BE DONE. I THINK A LOT OF IT IS GOING... |
| 05:05:06 |
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ISN'T IT A PART OF PUBLIC DIPLOMACY BECAUSE -- |
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IT IS CERTAINLY A PART OF PUBLIC DIPLOMACY BUT I OFTEN THINK WE ARE TOO NARROW IF WE ONLY THINK IT... |
| 05:05:19 |
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IN WILL BE THE FIRST TIME THIS ADMINISTRATION LEFT A FAITH-BASED ANALYSIS LYING BY THE WAYSIDE. |
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THAT I WOULD AGREE WITH BUT THE NEED FOR INTERFAITH DIAL SLOG IMPORTANT. I WOULD HOPE THAT IT WOULD... |
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I MET WITH ONE OF THE PRINCIPAL LEADERS OF ISLAM IN CAIRO, AND THEY ARE FIGHTING THEIR OWN STRUGGLE.... |
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I COULDN'T AGREE MORE AND WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT. WE ARE TRYING IN SOME WAYS. YOU KNOW, THE BROADER... |
| 05:07:42 |
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WELL, YES, THEY ARE AND I AGREE WITH YOU AND I HOPE YOU WILL REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. I THINK IT... |
| 05:09:12 |
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IT WAS MEANT TO REFLECT THE RIPE BETWEEN RUSSIA. I THINK IT WAS WITH RESPECT TO THE UNITED STATES... |
| 05:10:03 |
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WELL, I THOUGHT THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT. I'M SKEPTICAL OF A RAPID DEPLOYMENT PRIOR TO ITS BEING... |
| 05:10:24 |
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WE ACTUALLY HAVE BEGUN DEPLOYMENT AND WILL CONTINUE DEPLOYMENT BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT SOMETIMES IT'S... |
| 05:10:38 |
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IF I CAN JUST SAY, SUM RIDING -- SUMMARIZING COUPLE OF THINGS, NUMBER ONE, YOU SAID EARLIER THAT YOU... |
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THANK YOU SENATOR, AND I FULLY ACCEPT AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. |
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THANK YOU. |
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THANK YOU. |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SENATOR KERRY THAT'S THE GOOD NOTE ON WHICH TO CONCLUDE TODAY THAT THERE'S REACHING... |
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH, |
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