Writings of James Baldwin

Jun 16, 2002

C-SPAN | American Writers

From the library of DeWitt Clinton High School, where James Baldwin attended school, guests examined racism in America and the rise of the civil rights movement through the life and writings of social critic James Baldwin. Dr. Kelley is an authority on the history of the civil rights movement. Dr. Leeming, a close personal friend of James .. Read More
From the library of DeWitt Clinton High School, where James Baldwin attended school, guests examined racism in America and the rise of the civil rights movement through the life and writings of social critic James Baldwin. Dr. Kelley is an authority on the history of the civil rights movement. Dr. Leeming, a close personal friend of James Baldwin, published James Baldwin: A Biography in 1994. Dr. Washington talked about the social and political forces that shaped Baldwin and other black writers in his book The Ideologies of African American Literature. During the period between 1955 and 1965, individuals and civil rights organizations challenged segregation and discrimination with a variety of activities, including protest marches, boycotts, and refusal to abide by segregation laws. Baldwin was continually conscious of the hypocrisies and injustices in the world around him and, as a writer, made his readers aware of the state of American race relations. Baldwin's The Fire Next Time is considered one of the most influential books on the subject. ~ The book consists of two essays: one is in the form of a letter urging his nephew not to base his sense of self-worth on his acceptance to society. The other traces Baldwin's personal history from his career as a junior minister to Italian and Jewish cultures in his high school years. He also analyzes the Nation of Islam movement. James Baldwin, the eldest of nine children, was born in Harlem in New York City, on August 2, 1924. His father was a preacher, and as a teenager he was active in a small revivalist church. After graduating from high school he worked in a series of menial jobs. In 1948 Baldwin moved to Paris where he joined a group of black writers and artists that included Chester Himes, Richard Wright and Ollie Harrington. His first novel, Go Tell It on the Mountain (1953), concerned a young boy coming to terms with the religious beliefs of his father. His second novel, Giovanni's Room(1956), is an account of an American living in Paris. In 1957 Baldwin returned to the United States where he became involved in the struggle for civil rights. His next three books concerned the issue of racism: a book of essays, Nobody Knows My Name (1961), a novel, Another Country (1962), and a book on the Black Muslim separatist movement, The Fire Next Time (1963). He followed this with a play about racist oppression, Blues for Mister Charlie (1964). Other books by Baldwin include Going to Meet the Man (1965), Tell Me How Long the Train's Been Gone (1968), If Beadle Street Could Talk (1974) and Just Above My Head (1979). James Baldwin, who published a collection of autobiographical writings, The Price of the Ticket, in 1985, died in Saint-Paul, France in December, 1987.

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00:00:20 Unidentified Speaker NOW FROM THE BRONX, A LOOK AT RACISM IN AMERICA DURING THE 1950'S AND 1960'S AND THE RISE OF THE CIVIL...
00:00:37 Unidentified Speaker I WANT TO SUGGEST THAT INSTEAD OF, AS WE HAVE NOW FOR FAR TOO LONG, ACCORDING TO ME, INSTEAD OF SPEAKING...
00:01:29 Unidentified Speaker THAT IS WRITER AND SOCIAL CRITIC JAMES BALDWIN. TODAY'S C-SPAN AMERICAN WRITERS SERIES BRINGS YOU...
00:02:03 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I THINK BALDWIN WAS DIFFERENT THAN MOST SO-CALLED CIVIL RIGHTS SPOKESPEOPLE IN THAT HE EMPHASIZED,...
00:02:48 Unidentified Speaker WE WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO OUR DISCUSSION OF THE 1950'S AND 1960'S WITH OUR NEXT YEAR, 1963, THE YEAR...
00:03:16 Unidentified Speaker WE SHOULD EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHY WE ARE IN THE BRONX. LET'S DO SOME BASIC FACTS ABOUT JAMES BALDWIN....
00:03:24 Unidentified Speaker HE WAS BORN IN 1924 IN AUGUST AT HARLEM HOSPITAL IN HARLEM, NEW YORK.
00:03:30 Unidentified Speaker HOW DID A KID FROM HARLEM GO TO SCHOOL IN THE BRONX?
00:03:34 Unidentified Speaker WELL, OF COURSE HE DIDN'T GO TO SCHOOL IMMEDIATELY IN THE BROPTION. HE HAD A LIFE IN HARLEM UNTIL HE...
00:04:24 Unidentified Speaker AT WHAT POINT IN HIS LIFE DID JAMES BALDWIN KNOW HE COULD WRITE AND WANTED TO EXPRESS HIMSELF THROUGH...
00:04:32 Unidentified Speaker HE HAD A TEACHER IN PRIMARY SCHOOL. A TEACHER CALLED BILL MILLER, OR RILLA MILLER, SHE. SHE HAD COME...
00:05:26 Unidentified Speaker AND AGAIN, JUST TO GET A QUICK PICTURE OF HIM, HE LIVED UNTIL WHEN?
00:05:32 Unidentified Speaker HE LIVED UNTIL 1987.
00:05:33 Unidentified Speaker AND WHAT WERE HIS YEARS OF GREATEST INFLUENCE, WOULD YOU SAY?
00:05:39 Unidentified Speaker WELL, THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN, I THINK. I GUESS IF YOU MEAN INFLUENCE AT THE TIME, IT WOULD BE DURING...
00:06:14 Unidentified Speaker LET'S HELP YOU AND REMIND US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE AT THAT TIME. TO DO THAT,...
00:07:44 Unidentified Speaker IT'S IMPORTANT TO WRECK NIEDZ AT THE BLACK STRUGGLE FOR FREEDOM GOES BACK A COUPLE OF CENTURIES AND...
00:09:18 Unidentified Speaker LET'S TAKE OUR FIRST CALL FROM THE AUDIENCE FROM MINNEAPOLIS. WELCOME TO OUR DISCUSSION OF JAMES BALDWIN....
00:09:24 Unidentified Speaker HELLO. I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU ARE HONORING JAMES BALDWIN WHO I FEEL LIKE HAS NEVER GOTTEN HIS DUE....
00:10:06 Unidentified Speaker LET'S START WITH DR. LEEMING. WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO SAY TO US TODAY?
00:10:09 Unidentified Speaker WELL I THINK HE HAS TO SAY TO US TODAY, REALLY, WHAT HE HAD TO SAY THEN. IT'S, IN FACT, A MESSAGE...
00:11:09 Unidentified Speaker ROBIN KELLEY, WHAT DO YOU THINK JAMES BALDWIN SAYS TO US TODAY?
00:11:13 Unidentified Speaker SURE, I THINK TO FOLLOW UP, ONE OF THE BIGGEST MYTHS THAT AMERICA STILL HAS WITH IT IS THE MYTH OF...
00:11:44 Unidentified Speaker IF I COULD ADD TO THAT, ONCE IN A SPEECH AT HARVARD, HE SAID IN ANSWER TO A QUESTION ABOUT THE NEGRO...
00:12:03 Unidentified Speaker OHIO, YOU ARE ON THE AIR. WELCOME.
00:12:08 Caller MY NAME IS GUY DARDEN DARDEN. I'M TRYING TO WRITE A BOOK. I THINK JAMES BALDWIN WAS RIGHT ON THE MONEY...
00:13:51 Unidentified Speaker I'M GOING TO JUMP IN, THANKS. I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT AND WE GOTGOT A LOT OF CALLERS, SO LET'S HAVE...
00:14:02 Unidentified Speaker WELL, THINK IT'S TRUE. ONE THING THAT'S CERTAINLY TRUE IS THAT THE CALLER HITS ON THE POINT THAT IF...
00:14:26 Unidentified Speaker I WANT TO PICK UP ON FATHERS. WE ARE TALKING ON FATHERS' DAY, AS A MATTER OF FACT. IN ALL OF THE BOOKS...
00:14:44 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I THINK IT DID. I THINK ESPECIALLY AT THAT TIME. IT'S LITTLE DIFFERENT NOW, I MEAN A SINGLE...
00:15:22 Unidentified Speaker LET'S LISTEN TO A LITTLE BIT MORE OF JAMES BALDWIN IN HIS OWN VOICE. I WANT TO TELL YOU THROUGHOUT...
00:16:01 Unidentified Speaker THE AMERICAN IDEA OF PROGRESS PROGRESS, WHEN AMERICANS TALK ABOUT PROGRESS, THEY MEAN HOW FAST I BECOME...
00:17:02 Unidentified Speaker LET'S RETURN TO PHONE CALLS. NEXT IS NEW YORK CITY. YOU ARE ON THE AIR.
00:17:05 Caller YES. HELLO? HELLO?
00:17:09 Unidentified Speaker GO AHEAD, SIR.
00:17:10 Caller YES. HELLO?
00:17:12 Unidentified Speaker SIR, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
00:17:13 Unidentified Speaker
00:17:14 Caller EXCELLENT. I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME ON JAMES BALDWIN. WHAT A GENIUS. I APPRECIATE THIS...
00:17:28 Unidentified Speaker THANKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT CALL FROM HAWAII. WELCOME TO OUR CONVERSATION....
00:17:36 Caller OH, YES. I'M A WRITER, MYSELF. I WRITE PLAYS AND TWO OF MY INFLUENCES ARE MARY VERAKA FROM THE ANGER...
00:18:04 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. WOULD YOU, BEFORE YOU ANSWER, TELL US HOW MUCH OF OF HIS LIFE HE SPENT OUTSIDE THE U.S.?...
00:18:10 Unidentified Speaker WELL, THAT WOULD ANSWER THE CALLER. IN FACT, I WOULD SAY HE SPENT FROM 1948 ON, ABOUT HALF OF THE...
00:19:16 Unidentified Speaker I INTRODUCED YOU AS A FRIEND OF HIS. HOW DID THE TWO OF YOU MEET?
00:19:21 Unidentified Speaker WE MET IN A KITCHEN IN ISTANBUL ON DECEMBER 19, 1961. I WENT TO A PARTY IN ISTANBUL WHERE I WAS A...
00:20:18 Unidentified Speaker AND YOUR FRIENDSHIP LASTED HOW MANY YEARS?
00:20:19 Unidentified Speaker WELL THAT NIGHT WE WENT OUT AND WE TALKED ALL NIGHT LONG ABOUT VARIOUS THINGS AND HE TAUGHT SOME MIGHT...
00:20:59 Unidentified Speaker NEXT PHONE CALL IS FROM PHILADELPHIA. YOU ARE ON C-SPAN. GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
00:21:03 Caller YES. MY NAME IS FAITH JIRLES. I USED TO BE A TEACHER IN A UNIVERSITY AND IN TEXAS SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY,...
00:21:58 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DR. KELLEY, DO YOU USE JAMES BALDWIN'S WORKS IN YOUR CLASSES?
00:22:02 Unidentified Speaker I DO. I USUALLY USE HIS ESSAYS LIKE "THE FIRE NEXT TIME" AND ALSO SOME OF HIS OTHER ESSAYS FROM AN...
00:22:34 Unidentified Speaker NEXT CALL IS FROM LOS ANGELES ANGELES.
00:22:36 Caller HI. MY NAME IS RAFAEL PIZARRO. I'M A WRITER, ALSO. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SALUTE YOU FORYOU FOR...
00:23:21 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DAVID LEEMING, HOW WAS HE ACCEPTED AT THE TIME?
00:23:25 Unidentified Speaker WELL, THAT'S A DIFFICULT TIME. I THINK THAT HE WAS, IN SOME WAYS, DENIED HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE BECAUSE...
00:24:21 Unidentified Speaker ROBIN KELLEY, LET ME RETURN TO U.S. HISTORY AND POLICY AT THE TIME. IN 1963, IF I HAVE THE DATE RIGHT,...
00:24:32 Unidentified Speaker RIGHT.
00:24:34 Unidentified Speaker COULD YOU TELL US WHAT THE HISTORICAL VIEW OF THE KENNEDY ADMINISTRATION'S RECORD ON CIVIL RIGHTS...
00:24:41 Unidentified Speaker WELL, IN A NUTSHELL, THE KENNEDY ADMINISTRATION WAS VERY AMBIVALENT ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS. THEY DIDN'T...
00:25:18 Unidentified Speaker WHAT ABOUT THE JOHNSON ADMINISTRATION?
00:25:20 Unidentified Speaker WELL, THE JOHNSON ADMINISTRATION IN SOME WAYS GROWS OUT OF THE ENERGY THAT CAME OUT OF LIKE THE MARCH...
00:26:00 Unidentified Speaker FOR MANY AFRICAN-AMERICANS, IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO GENERALIZE, WHICH ADMINISTRATION IS VIEWED MORE MORE...
00:26:07 Unidentified Speaker THAT'S HARD TO SAY. KENNEDY HAS A MYSTIQUE ABOUT HIM. I MEAN THE FACT THAT HE WAS TRAGICALLY ASSASSINATED...
00:27:09 Unidentified Speaker WE ARE IN THE BRONX THIS AFTERNOON AT THE HIGH SCHOOL WHERE JAMES BALDWIN WENT TO SCHOOL IN THE LATE,...
00:27:32 Caller I WAS WONDERING IF MR. LEEMING COULD ISOLATE AND DEFINE FOR US WHAT, WHICH QUALITIES IN TERMS OF LITERARY...
00:28:05 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU.
00:28:08 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I THINK BALDWIN'S GREAT TALENT AS AN ESSAYIST, AS I THINK DR. LEWIS JUST MENTIONED, IS HIS ABILITY...
00:30:20 Unidentified Speaker SEATTLE, GO AHEAD, PLEASE.
00:30:22 Caller FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE PIECE THAT YOU ARE PUTTING ON THIS AFTERNOON. I AM IN THE...
00:30:51 Unidentified Speaker ROBIN KELLEY, WILL YOU TAKE THAT SECOND QUESTION?
00:30:54 Unidentified Speaker THAT'S A TOUGH QUESTION, BECAUSE I THINK ON THE ONE HAND, BALDWIN IS OF A TIME AND PLACE. AND I THINK,...
00:31:59 Unidentified Speaker WHAT DID HE GAIN FROM VISITS ABROAD?
00:32:01 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I THINK I SORT OF ANSWERED THAT BEFORE. WHAT HE GOT WAS THE SPACE TO WRITE. THE SPACE AWAY...
00:32:44 Unidentified Speaker THE BOOK THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON IS "THE FIRE NEXT TIME" PUBLISHED IN 1963. JUST TO GET A SENSE OF...
00:33:56 Caller THANK YOU. FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY ALL OF THE PROGRAMS,...
00:34:09 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU.
00:34:13 Caller FIRST QUESTION COMES OUT OF BALDWIN'S RELIGIOUS BACKGROUND. IN MY UNDERSTANDING OF HIS WRITING, A...
00:34:42 Unidentified Speaker SOME BIG QUESTIONS. BIG QUESTIONS THERE. LET ME ASK YOU DR. LEEMING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RELIGION...
00:34:51 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I THINK THE CALLER PROBABLY KNOWS THAT AT ABOUT THE AGE OF 14, BALDWIN WENT TO VISIT A VERY...
00:36:04 Unidentified Speaker DR. KELLEY, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO TALK IN A MORE GENERAL SENSE ABOUT THE ROLE OF BLACK CHURCHES...
00:36:13 Unidentified Speaker WELL BLACK CHURCHES WERE THE FOUNDATION. I MEAN THEY WERE THE BASIS FOR ORGANIZATION. THEY WERE --...
00:37:09 Unidentified Speaker THE CALLER'S LAST QUESTION WAS ABOUT SOUTHERN RACIAL POLITICS AT THE TIME. BIG TOPIC. CAN YOU TELL...
00:37:16 Unidentified Speaker ABOUT SOUTHERN RACIAL POLITICS AT THE TIME. IT WAS A POLITICS BASED ON WHITE SUPREMACY THAT WAS ABOUT...
00:37:52 Unidentified Speaker LET'S LOOK AGAIN JUST FOR HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE AT SOME OF THE KEY DATES IN THE AMERICAN CIVIL RIGHTS...
00:38:51 Caller HI. THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. WHAT WOULD BE MR. BALDWIN'S VIEW REGARDING CIVIL RIGHTS VERSUS ...
00:39:17 Unidentified Speaker DAVID LEEMING?
00:39:18 Unidentified Speaker THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT QUESTION, BUT I THINK THE ANSWER IS QUESTION, THERE IS CERTAINLY A CONNECTION...
00:40:00 Unidentified Speaker BROOKLYN. GOOD AFTERNOON TO YOU.
00:40:02 Caller GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS CAR LOSE BROWN. I ACTUALLY WENT TO DEWITT CLINTON HIGH SCHOOL SO THANK...
00:41:30 Unidentified Speaker NOT OFFHAND. PERHAPS I SHOULD, BUT I DON'T, OFFHAND. I THINK BALDWIN IS, IN MANY WAYS, VERY MUCH...
00:42:23 Unidentified Speaker DAVID LEEMING, WHAT AND WHEN, BROUGHT JAMES BALDWIN INTO WIDESPREAD PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS?
00:42:31 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I SUPPOSE IT WAS REALLY, HE MEAN IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REALLY WIDESPREAD PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS...
00:43:17 Unidentified Speaker HOW DID HE MAKE IT TO THE COVER OF "TIME" MAGAZINE?
00:43:22 Unidentified Speaker I THINK BECAUSE, PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE, I HOPE I'M NOT GETTING INTO TROUBLE IN TERMS OF DATES,...
00:43:40 Unidentified Speaker WHERE DID THE TITLE "THE FIRE NEXT TIME" COME FROM?
00:43:42 Unidentified Speaker WELL, YOU CAN READ THE VERY LAST WORDS OF THE BOOK.
00:43:46 Unidentified Speaker OK, I WILL LET YOU DO THAT. WHY DOESN'T YOU GET THAT READY AND I WILL LIST TON A CALL.
00:43:52 Caller GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M ENJOYING YOUR PRESENTATION ON MR. BALDWIN. AND MY QUESTION IS FOR MR. LEEMING...
00:44:29 Unidentified Speaker OK, WELL I GUESS I CAN START WITH THE END OF END OF "THE FIRE NEXT TIME" WHICH WILL BE A PARTIAL ANSWER...
00:45:13 Unidentified Speaker AS TO MY TIME WITH BALDWIN, AROUND THANKSGIVING TIME, 1987, HIS BROTHER, DAVID, ASKED ME IF I WOULD...
00:46:27 Unidentified Speaker RIGHT.
00:46:29 Unidentified Speaker NEXT TELEPHONE CALL, WALTER, MARYLAND.
00:46:31 Unidentified Speaker YES. HELLO?
00:46:34 Unidentified Speaker GO AHEAD, SIR.
00:46:36 Caller MY QUESTION, "THE FIRE NEXT TIME" IS ONE OF THE MOST PROLIFIC ESSAYS OF THE 20TH CENTURY. I LIKE...
00:47:37 Unidentified Speaker THANKS, ROBIN KELLEY?
00:47:38 Unidentified Speaker SURE. THINK IT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK THAT HE MEANT IT WITH THE CERTAIN SENSE OF IRONY. BECAUSE...
00:48:17 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I LIKED WHAT HE JUST SAID --
00:48:20 Unidentified Speaker DR. KELLEY.
00:48:21 Unidentified Speaker DR. KELLEY. I'M SORRY. BALDWIN USED THAT TERM, IRONICALLY, YES. BUT HE ALSO USEED IT SIMPLY IN RELATION...
00:50:09 Unidentified Speaker LET'S LIST TON JAMES BALDWIN AGAIN IN HIS OWN WORDS. THIS IS A CLIP FROM AN OLD PROGRAM ON NBC. WE...
00:50:25 Unidentified Speaker I LEFT BECAUSE I KNEW VERY WELL THAT ON TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY, I WOULD ENCOUNTER ONE COP TOO MANY....
00:50:46 Unidentified Speaker WHY DID YOU COME HOME?
00:50:49 Unidentified Speaker OH, YOU ASKED ME WHY I LEFT HOME.
00:50:51 Unidentified Speaker YOU ARE A COMMUTER, THAT'S TRUE. YOU TOLD ME YOU WERE A COMPUTE MUTER.
00:50:56 Unidentified Speaker I WANTED TO SAVE MY LIFE AND MY FAMILY'S LIFE. I'M NOT AN EXPATRIATE IN EXILE. A BLACK CAT IS NOT...
00:51:38 Unidentified Speaker JAMES BALDWIN TALKING ABOUT HIS YEARS AS AN EXPATRIATE. LET'S TAKE OUR NEXT PHONE CALL FROM OAKLAND,...
00:51:48 Caller YES, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT HOW BALDWIN, AS A CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER, WAS IMPACTED OR LIMITEDED BY BEING...
00:52:21 Unidentified Speaker THANKS VERY MUCH. DAVID LEEMING?
00:52:25 Unidentified Speaker THE ANSWER IS YES, HIS ROLE, LIKE WESTON'S, WAS MARGINALIZED AND LIMITED IN THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON,...
00:53:10 Unidentified Speaker DR. KELLEY, WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS 1963 MARCH ON WASHINGTON?
00:53:15 Unidentified Speaker SURE. IN SOME WAYS, THE MARCH IN WASHINGTON IS THE MOST VISIBLE LEGACY WE HAVE OF WHAT THE CIVIL ...
00:54:05 Unidentified Speaker IF YOU WILL BEAR WITH ME, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU VERY BRIEFLY, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU COULD SPEND LOTS OF...
00:54:18 Unidentified Speaker SOUTHERN CHRISTIAN LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE. IT WAS LED BY DR. KING THAT GREW OUT OF INITIALLY THE MONTGOMERY...
00:54:28 Unidentified Speaker DR. LEEMING USED SNICK AND CORS.
00:54:31 Unidentified Speaker STUDENT NONVIOLENT COORDINATING COMMITMENT WHICH GREW OUT OF NASHVILLE AND GREENSBORO. NASHVILLE,...
00:54:57 Unidentified Speaker LET'S LIST TON A CALL FROM MANHATTAN.
00:54:59 Caller THANK YOU. FIRST THING I WANTED TO SAY I HAD READ MY FAVORITE BOOK AND THE FIRST BOOK I ACTUALLY READ...
00:55:50 Unidentified Speaker DAVID LEEMING, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT?
00:55:52 Unidentified Speaker WE COULD TALK ABOUT ALL SORTS OF THINGS. MYTHS' UPWARD MOBILITY WHICH APPLY TO SOME PARTS OF OUR ...
00:56:48 Unidentified Speaker IT IS TIME FOR US TO TAKE OUR LEAVE OF DAVID LEEMING AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE WATCHING OUR PROGRAM...
00:57:15 Unidentified Speaker WHY SHOULD HE BE STUDIED TODAY?
00:57:17 Unidentified Speaker WE NEED THE KIND OF LOVE THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. NOT HALLMARK CARDS KIND OF LOVE. THE KIND OF LOVE...
00:57:34 Unidentified Speaker AND IS YOUR BIOGRAPHY OF JAMES BALDWIN WIDELY AVAILABLE TODAY FOR PEOPLE?
00:57:38 Unidentified Speaker IN LIBRARIES. THERE'S SOME TALK OF IT BEING REPRINTED, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO GET RIGHT...
00:57:45 Unidentified Speaker IT'S CALLED WHAT?
00:57:49 Unidentified Speaker "JAMES BALDWIN A BIOGRAPHY".
00:57:50 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. I'M GOING TO LEAVE THIS CLASSROOM AND WALK OUTSIDE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO...
00:58:39 Unidentified Speaker I THINK CULTURALLY, IT GAVE HIM AN ALTERNATIVE TO HARLEM. AND THAT BECAME EXTREMELY IMPORTANT IN HIS...
00:59:02 Unidentified Speaker MOST OF THE NAMES WERE ALL MALE. MANY OF THOSE NAMES ARE FROM JEWISH FAMILIES. WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP...
00:59:15 Unidentified Speaker VERY STRONG. MANY OF HIS PERSONAL FRIENDS WERE JEWISH. ALSO, THE JEWISH INTELLECTUAL CULTURE PLAYED...
00:59:46 Unidentified Speaker OUR GOAL IS TO UNDERSTAND AMERICAN HISTORY THROUGH WRITERS. YOU ARGUE IN YOUR BOOK THAT BALDWIN IS...
00:59:55 Unidentified Speaker YEAH. THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT AFRICAN-AMERICAN WRITERS HAVE TYPICALLY OPERATED...
01:01:08 Unidentified Speaker THE PROTEST WRITING WAS SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT BROUGHT WHITE AMERICANS INTO THE FOLD?
01:01:13 Unidentified Speaker WELL, THE WAY BALDWIN USED IT, YEAH. BALDWIN, HIS PRIMARY AUDIENCE WAS WHITE AMERICA AND LIBERAL ...
01:01:34 Unidentified Speaker ROBIN KELLEY, THE HISTORIAN BASED AT NEW YORK UNIVERSITY WILL BE WITH US FOR THE REST OF OUR PROGRAM...
01:01:53 Caller HI, THIS PERTAINS TO A COMMENT DR. WASHINGTON MADE BUT IT'S DIRECTED TO DR. KELLEY. OUR PREVIOUS WRITER...
01:02:30 Unidentified Speaker DR. KELLEY, WE NEVER PROMISED YOU THEY WOULD BE SIMPLE QUESTIONS.
01:02:33 Unidentified Speaker THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF WAYS TO LOOK AT THIS. ONE, THE FACT THAT BALDWIN...
01:03:50 Unidentified Speaker NEXT PHONE CALL, SANTA BARBARA FOR OUR TWO GUESTS ON JAMES BALDWIN.
01:03:55 Caller YES, HELLO. I GREW UP IN THE LATE 1960'S AND HAD YIET QUITE AN IMPRESSION ON ME. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD...
01:05:11 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU, ROBERT WASHINGTON.
01:05:12 Unidentified Speaker YEAH, EXCELLENT QUESTION. IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT "THE FIRE NEXT TIME" WAS WRITTEN AS A...
01:05:58 Unidentified Speaker ROBIN KELLEY MENTIONED THE HOPEFULNESS OF JAMES BALDWIN'S WRITING. HEHERE'S ONE SENTENCE. AMERICA...
01:06:19 Caller YES, WAYS LISTENING TO THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED ABOUT THE INFLUENCE THAT JEWS MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE...
01:06:47 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO TRACK THESE THINGS. I DO THINK THAT WHEN PROFESSOR WASHINGTON TALKED...
01:07:43 Unidentified Speaker ON OUR PRODUCER IS PAUL BROWN. NEXT CALL IS FROM CALIFORNIA.
01:07:46 Caller HI. THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. I WANT TO CON GRAT CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR OUTSTANDING WORK WITH...
01:08:18 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. FIRST QUESTION WAS IM PACT IN HIS OWN TIME.
01:08:24 Unidentified Speaker YEAH, I THINK AGAIN, COMING BACK TO THIS POINT IS THAT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT...
01:09:08 Unidentified Speaker GRAND RAPIDS, MICHIGAN.
01:09:09 Caller YES. GOOD AFTERNOON. LOVE THE SHOW. SEEN YOU NUMEROUS TIMES AND THIS DIALOGUE IS WONDERFUL THIS ...
01:09:56 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:09:59 Unidentified Speaker YEAH. I THINK WHAT WE FIND WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS POST-1906'S OF BALDWIN'S CAREER, HE BKS MUCH MORE...
01:10:57 Unidentified Speaker LET ME SUBSITY SUIT THE WORD CONSPIRACY. ITTHERE WAS A REASON. THERE'S A REASON THAT NO ONE WANTS...
01:12:12 Unidentified Speaker ROBIN KELLEY?
01:12:14 Unidentified Speaker I THINK HE'S ABSOLUTELY ON POINT THERE. BECAUSE HE'S TALKING ABOUT CONTENT OF EDUCATION. AN EDUCATION...
01:12:41 Unidentified Speaker SAN FRANCISCO NEXT IN THE JAMES BALDWIN CONVERSATION.
01:12:43 Caller YES. DR. WASHINGTON ACTUALLY PARTLY ANSWERED ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS AND I PROMISE...
01:13:20 Unidentified Speaker YEAH. I THINK THAT BALDWIN ACTUALLY IF YOU READ HIS ESSAYS THAT YOU SEE SOME INFLUENCE COMING OUT...
01:13:50 Unidentified Speaker THE OTHER ONE WAS RELIGION AGAIN, YES. THAT'S RIGHT.
01:13:54 Unidentified Speaker I JUST THINK RELIGION BECOMES LESS IMPORTANT FOR HIM. I DON'T THINK IT'S A PROBLEM FOR HIS HOMOSECTION...
01:14:05 Unidentified Speaker HE PUBLISHED MORE THAN 20 BOOKS AND NUMEROUS ESSAYS. HE WAS ALSO A PLAY WRITE, A TEACHER. MANY THINGS....
01:14:34 Unidentified Speaker I KNOW IT INFLUENCED HIM.
01:14:36 Unidentified Speaker I I WILL TELL YOU FROM DR. LEEMING'S BIOGRAPHY, HE READ IT SO OFTEN AS A YOUTH HIS MOTHER PUT IT ON...
01:14:58 Unidentified Speaker I THINK HE RESPECTED LANGSTON HUGHES. THE KIND OF LANGUAGE THAT BALDWIN USES IS THE KIND OF PROSE...
01:15:15 Unidentified Speaker I HAVE TO ASK YOU ABOUT ONE. THAT'S WILLIAM FAULKNER.
01:15:20 Unidentified Speaker YEAH, I THINK BALDWIN HAD LOTS OF PROBLEM WAS FAULKNER. I THINK HE LOTS OF PROBLEMS AND RESERVATIONS...
01:15:55 Unidentified Speaker ROBIN KELLEY, YOU WANT TO PICK UP ON THAT?
01:15:58 Unidentified Speaker OH, I THINK PROFESSOR WASHINGTON SAID IT BEST THAT BALDWIN WAS CRITICAL OF FAULKNER FAULKNER. AND...
01:16:24 Unidentified Speaker FOR OUR FINAL 45 MINUTES, ROBERT WASHINGTON AND I ARE GOING TO WALK INSUED THE LIBRARY WHERE ROBIN...
01:16:36 Caller HELLO. MY NAME IS RICHARD BAXTER. I'M A MINUTE TIRS IN SUMPTER, SOUTH DAKOTA CAROLINA. I MET JAMES...
01:18:25 Unidentified Speaker THANKS VERY MUCH. DR. WASHINGTON?
01:18:28 Unidentified Speaker HERE'S AN IMPORTANT QUOTE THAT I THINK RESPONDS TO THIS ISSUE ABOUT CHRISTIANITY. BALDWIN MAKES THE...
01:18:59 Unidentified Speaker NEXT CALL IS SAN FRANCISCO.
01:19:00 Unidentified Speaker YES. I HAPPENED TO SEE A VERY INTERESTING PHOTOGRAPH A CO-WORKER WHO HAD BEEN A REPORTER DURING THE...
01:20:10 Unidentified Speaker DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER?
01:20:12 Unidentified Speaker I CAN ONLY SPEAK GENERALLY BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER ACTUALLY SEEN BALDWIN'S FILE, BUT THERE'S NO QUESTION...
01:20:39 Unidentified Speaker DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO EVER LOOK AT THE FILES?
01:20:42 Unidentified Speaker NO, I HAVEN'T.
01:20:43 Unidentified Speaker AND IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN THE DAVID LEEMING BIOGRAPHY, MR. LEEMING, OUR GUEST, HE DOES HAVE...
01:21:12 Unidentified Speaker MALCOLM X AND I MET HIM YEARS AGO. WHEN MALCOLM WAS DOING A DEBATE WITH A VERY YOUNG SIT-IN STUDENT...
01:22:35 Unidentified Speaker ROBIN KELLEY, I WOULD LIKE TO USE THAT CLIP AS A WAY FOR YOU TO TALK TO OUR AUDIENCE AND EXPLAIN THE...
01:22:54 Unidentified Speaker SURE. THE NATION OF ISLAM'S ORIGINS GO BACK TO 1930'S, BUT IT REALLY CAME INTO BEING IN THE 1950'S....
01:23:59 Unidentified Speaker JAMES BALDWIN REJECTED THE ENTREATISE. WHY?
01:24:04 Unidentified Speaker HE HAD A VERY INTERESTING POSTURE TOWARD BLACK NATIONALISM IN GENERAL. HE DIDN'T AGREE WITH THEM. ...
01:24:38 Unidentified Speaker IF YOU READ IT TODAY IN THE POST-SCRIPT OF SEPTEMBER 11, DOES IT SPEAK TO YOU THROUGH THE AGES IN...
01:24:47 Unidentified Speaker I THINK THE MESSAGE IS STILL VALID. THINK THE MESSAGE ABOUT THE LACK OF COMMITMENT ON THE PART OF ...
01:25:21 Unidentified Speaker COMING UP IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, BETTY FREIDAN FOLLOWED BY RUSSEL KIRK AND WE WILL END ON JULY...
01:25:37 Caller YES. THIS QUESTION IS FOR PROFESSOR WASHINGTON AND MR. KELLEY. THIS IS A GREAT HONOR FOR ME BECAUSE...
01:26:31 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APRSHIATE IT.
01:26:33 Unidentified Speaker HE GAVE -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT WAS VERY NICE. HE GAVE A WONDERFUL LECTURE AS A SCHOOL TEACHER....
01:27:23 Unidentified Speaker JAMES BALDWIN BORN IN HARLEM, DIED 1987 IN FRANCE. THE BOOK WE ARE LOOKING AT, "THE FIRE NEXT TIME,"...
01:27:50 Unidentified Speaker THOSE WERE THE FOUNDATION OF LIBERAL INTELLECTUAL POLITICAL CULTURE. WHEN ONE GOES BACK AND LOOKS AT...
01:28:40 Unidentified Speaker A LITTLE EARLIER, YOU SUGGESTED THAT YOU WISH BALDWIN HAD DONE MORE LITERARY CRITICISM. HOW ABOUT...
01:28:49 Unidentified Speaker YEAH, YOU GET MORE POLITICAL CRITICISM OF BALDWIN, UNFORTUNATELY. AND YOU SEE AFTER THE 1960'S, THERE'S...
01:29:09 Unidentified Speaker SAYS WHOM?
01:29:13 Unidentified Speaker WELL, NORMAN HORWITZ, THE ED TOR OF "COMMENTARY "AND LIBERAL DURING THE 1906'S BECAME CONSERVATIVE....
01:29:44 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE A HALF HOUR LEFT TO GO. AS YOU KNOW BY NOW, WE ARE IN THE LIBRARY OF DEWITT CLINTON HIGH SCHOOL...
01:30:12 Caller HELLO AND THANK YOU. OUR MEDIATOR MENTIONED POST SEPTEMBER 11. THAT KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH MY QUESTION...
01:31:00 Unidentified Speaker ROBIN KELLEY?
01:31:03 Unidentified Speaker ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WELL, WHY IT EXI.S, WHY IT PERSISTS. THAT'S A DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER...
01:32:11 Unidentified Speaker LET ME PUT MY WATER DOWN TO ASK A SOCIOLOGIST POINT OF VIEW OF THAT QUESTION.
01:32:17 Unidentified Speaker LET ME KIND OF APPROACH IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. THAT'S SUCH A HUGE QUESTION. THE POINT I THINK...
01:33:27 Unidentified Speaker WHERE WOULD YOU PUT HIM GIVEN THAT THOUGHT ON THE POLITICAL
01:33:30 Unidentified Speaker TODAY? I THINK, THINK TODAY, WELL, I THINK HE WOULD CERTAINLY BE VERY DISAPPOINTED, BUT I THINK IN...
01:34:08 Unidentified Speaker BLOOMFIELD HILLS, MICHIGAN. WELCOME TO YOU.
01:34:10 Caller THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I AM REALLY ENJOYING THIS PROGRAM. BUT IN REGARD TO BALDWIN'S CHRISTIANITY,...
01:34:52 Unidentified Speaker WHO WANTS TO TAKE THAT?
01:34:54 Unidentified Speaker WELL, I KNOW THAT IN HIS ESSAYS, HE TALKS ABOUT, AFTER STARTING HERE AT DEWITT CLINTON HIGH SCHOOL,...
01:35:36 Unidentified Speaker THERE'S A GREAT DEAL IN "THE FIRE NEXT TIME" ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE AS A PREACHER AT THE AGE OF 14....
01:36:33 Caller HI. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHAT A GREAT FATHER'S DAY GIFT THIS IS AND I WOULD LIKE TO, FOR BOTH DR....
01:38:07 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND AS LONG AS WE HAVE PATRIARCHY AND HOMO PHOBIA, WE WILL...
01:38:46 Unidentified Speaker ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT?
01:38:47 Unidentified Speaker THE ONLY THOUGHT IS PROBABLY NOT A VERY OPTIMISTIC ONE OR, PERHAPS, IT IS, AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY...
01:39:24 Unidentified Speaker IF JAMES BALDWIN WAS ONE OF THE BETTER-KNOWN NAMES IN THE COUNTRY OF WRITERS WORKING TOWARD SOCIAL...
01:39:38 Unidentified Speaker OH, THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. NOW, I WILL MENTION RAVEL RALPH ELLISON. IT'S A CONTRAST. HE...
01:40:30 Unidentified Speaker FREEPORT, MAINE. GOOD AFTERNOON TO YOU.
01:40:32 Caller GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS A GREAT SHOW AND I MIGHT COMMENTED THAT I I WAS IN THE CLASS OF 1943 AT DEWITT...
01:42:03 Unidentified Speaker THANKS HAVE VERY MUCH. WHEN HE WAS AT SCHOOL HERE AT DEWITT CLINTON HIGH SCHOOL, HE WAS THE EDITOR...
01:42:13 Unidentified Speaker YEAH. I THINK YOU ARE QUITE RIGHT AND AS I POINTED OUT EARLIER, THESE EARLY FRIENDSHIPS REALLY BEGAN...
01:43:04 Unidentified Speaker LET ME SHOW A CLIP FIRST AND WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU. MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN HEAR WHAG STUDENTS AT...
01:43:14 Unidentified Speaker WHEN IT SAYS LONG BEFORE THE NEGRO CHILD PERCEIVES A DIFFERENCE AND EVEN BEFORE HE UNDERSTANDS IT,...
01:44:03 Unidentified Speaker WE CAN SENSE THE URGENCY IN BALDWIN'S STATEMENT HERE IN THE BOOK BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, WE KNOW ABOUT...
01:44:37 Unidentified Speaker I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO RAY PULTON CIRCUMSTANCES WHO IS THE TEACHER HERE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND...
01:44:53 Unidentified Speaker YEAH, I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON SOMETHING PROFESSOR WASHINGTON SAID. WE HAVE TO THINK OF THE WHITE...
01:45:36 Unidentified Speaker THE CENTER FOR ALL OF THIS WAS NEW YORK?
01:45:37 Unidentified Speaker NEW YORK. ABSOLUTE LIE NEXT CALL, SAN FRANCISCO.
01:45:41 Caller YES. WHAT DO YOU THINK JAMES BALDWIN WOULD DO ABOUT THE LACK OF FOCUS FROM THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND...
01:46:37 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I KNOW SHE THESE SPEK LA TIF QUESTIONS ARE ALWAYS A CHALLENGE FOR ACADEMICS....
01:46:42 Unidentified Speaker I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE WOULD SAY, BUT I DO KNOW THAT HE WOULD SEE IT AS NOT JUST A BLACK PROBLEM BUT...
01:46:50 Unidentified Speaker DR. WASHINGTON?
01:46:51 Unidentified Speaker I AGREE. I AGREE.
01:46:56 Unidentified Speaker AT THE SAME TIME THAT JAMES BALDWIN WAS COMING INTO PROMINENCES AS A SOCIAL CRITIC, THE VIETNAM WAR...
01:47:16 Unidentified Speaker THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT HE WAS OPPOSED TO WAR, BUT I DON'T THINK HE ALLOWED HIMSELF TO BE DEFLECTED...
01:47:43 Unidentified Speaker JAMES BALDWIN LEFT ESSENTIALLY FOR GOOD IN THE EARLY 1970'S, FOLLOW FOLLOWING THE ASSASSINATION OF...
01:48:01 Unidentified Speaker BASICALLY, IT'S SEEN AS A TURNING POINT IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT. A PERIOD WHEN THE FOCUS MOVED...
01:48:48 Unidentified Speaker ABOUT NINE MINTS LEFT IN OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT IN THE UNITED STATES. JAMES...
01:48:58 Caller THANK YOU. I'M A STUDENT AT FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY. I RECENTLY READ A BOOK CALLED "LOSING THE RACE...
01:49:49 Unidentified Speaker WELL, THINK IN A NUTSHELL, THE BOOK ITSELF HAS ITS LIMITATIONS. IT'S BASED A LOT ON INNUENDO AND ON...
01:51:07 Unidentified Speaker CALIFORNIA FOR OUR TWO GUESTS.
01:51:08 Caller I AM INTERESTED IN BALDWIN'S DEALINGS AND HIS PERSPECTIVE ON THE LATE 1970'S AND THE 1980'S WHEN HE...
01:51:41 Unidentified Speaker ROBERT WASHINGTON?
01:51:43 Unidentified Speaker YEAH, MY ONLY COMMENT WAS THAT I THINK BALDWIN JUST BECAME A LOT MORE DISILLUSIONED AND CYNICAL, WHICH...
01:52:08 Unidentified Speaker ROBERT WASHINGTON HAS BEEN TEACHING AT BRENMORE, DAIRY SAY IT, FOR 33 YEARS. THIS IS AMONG HIS POSSIBLE...
01:52:20 Unidentified Speaker ABOUT SIX YEARS.
01:52:22 Unidentified Speaker MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN READERS OF YOUR WORKS. HOW MANY HAVE YOU WRIT SNN.
01:52:25 Unidentified Speaker ABOUT FIVE BOOKS.
01:52:26 Unidentified Speaker YOU HAVE ONE IN THE WORKS
01:52:27 Unidentified Speaker YES. I'M WRITING ON THELONIUS MONK? OH, THE GREAT COMPOSER. I THOUGHT THE WHOLE WORLD KNEW OF HIM....
01:52:41 Unidentified Speaker MINNESOTA, YOU ARE NEXT.
01:52:43 Caller HOW ARE YOU DOING? HELLO? ARE YOU THERE?
01:52:47 Unidentified Speaker YES, YES, SIR. PLEASE GO AHEAD.
01:52:50 Caller HIEM 35 YEARS OLD AND I LIVE IN AN ALL-WHITE COMMUNITY AND I READ A LOT OF JAMES BALDWIN'S BOOKS AND...
01:53:19 Unidentified Speaker THANK YOU.
01:53:21 Unidentified Speaker I MADE THE COMMENT EARLIER THAT WE AREN'T A MONOLITH AND I THINK THAT WE FIND AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE...
01:53:53 Unidentified Speaker AS JAMES BALDWIN ROSE TO NATIONAL CONSCIOUSNESS IN THE 1960'S, IT MIRRORED THE RISE OF TELEVISION...
01:54:07 Unidentified Speaker WELL, HE WAS AN EXTRAORDINARILY ELOQUENT SPEAKER SO THAT WHENEVER HE APPEARED ON T.V., HE HAD SUCH...
01:54:34 Unidentified Speaker WE WILL TAKE ONE MORE CALL. WE HAVE ABOUT THREE MINUTES LEFT. WE CAN GET THAT ONE READY. YOU HAVE...
01:54:41 Unidentified Speaker SURE. IT CHANGED THE MOVEMENT BECAUSE IT BROUGHT INTO PEOPLE'S LIVING ROOMS THE KIND OF VIOLENCE THAT...
01:54:49 Unidentified Speaker OUR NEXT TELEPHONE CALL IS FROM BRENTWOOD AND IT'S NOT MOVING FAST ENOUGH BUT WHERE ARE YOU CALLING...
01:54:55 Unidentified Speaker I'M CALLING FROM LONG ISLAND. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING MY CALL. I WANT TO THANK YOU FIRST FOR ...
01:55:23 Unidentified Speaker WE HAVE A BAD CONNECTION THERE WITH YOU, BUT YOU DID SPEAK ABOUT RALPH ELLISON.
01:55:27 Unidentified Speaker YEAH. I HAVE NEVER ENCOUNTERED ANY COMMENTS BY BALDWIN ON ELLISON. SO I DON'T KNOW. MY ASSUMPTION...
01:55:43 Unidentified Speaker WE ARE JUST ABOUT OUT OF TIME AND JUST TO WRAP THIS ALL UP FOR PEOPLE, IT'S 1963, THE "THE FIRE NEXT...
01:55:58 Unidentified Speaker IN THE CHANGE IN THE UNITED STATES? I THINK JAMES BALDWIN WAS NEVER A CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER. AND THIS...
01:56:29 Unidentified Speaker I SEE THAT AS SOMEONE WHO LEADS AN ORGANIZATION WHO PARTICIPATES IN THE MOVEMENT. HE WAS A WRITER...
01:56:44 Unidentified Speaker YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE TIME PERIOD WE ARE LOOKING AT THE EARLY 1960'S AND JAMES BALDWIN'S ROLE IN AMERICAN...
01:56:56 Unidentified Speaker BALDWIN IS A VERY PARADOXICAL SORT OF FIGURE. BECAUSE THERE'S ONE SENSE IN WHICH, AFTER HE LEFT HARLEM,...
01:57:34 Unidentified Speaker THANKS TO OUR THREE GUESTS, DAVID LEEMING, WHO IS JAMES BALDWIN'S BIOGRAPHER, ROB ROBIN KELLEYY AN...
01:58:04 Unidentified Speaker A VERY BRUTAL THING MUS BE SAID. MUST BE SAID. THE INTENTIONS OF THIS MELANCHOLY COUNTED TREE AS...

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