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CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS WAS TELLING US THAT HE DID NOT SLEEP A WINK LAST NIGHT. SO, WHAT CAN WE EXPECT.... |
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A SLOW AND NOTICEABLE DECLINE. |
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ANDREW SULLIVAN WAS SAYING THAT HE LOOKS A WRECK. |
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IT'S CALLED DOWNHILL ALL THE WAY. |
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AS CHRISTOPHER USED TO SAY, I GET UP AT THE CRACK OF NOON. THIS IS REALLY -- IT'S TOUGH FOR US, YOU... |
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NO ONE SAYS NO TO C-SPAN, OR YOU, MR. LAMB. |
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ARE YOU STILL BOTH BRITISH SET ZENS? |
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WHAT A QUESTION. |
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SUBJECTS. SUBJECTS. |
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STILL. THE REASON I ASKED THAT, LAST HALF HOUR, WE WERE ASKING THE QUESTION, IS THE UNITED STATES... |
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WELL, I VOTED WITH MY FEET. I'M HERE. I CAME HERE WHEN I WAS JUST AFTER COLLEGE, AND I HAD A KIND... |
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YOU COULD BE WHO YOU WANTED TO BE. |
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I COULD BE WHO I WAS OR EVEN MORE. |
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AND NOW THEY'RE SAYING YOU'RE A WRECK. |
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NOW I'M A WRECK. |
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I WROTE A PIECE AFTER SEPTEMBER 11th SAYING THAT I HAVE BEEN GETTING BY WITH A GREEN CARD FOR ALL... |
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TO BECOME A CITIZEN. |
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AS A GREEN CARD HOLDER, I CAN BE ARRESTED WITHOUT TRIAL AND PERHAPS I SHOULD NOT MISS THE CHANCE TO... |
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BECAUSE THIS IS OFTEN ASKED MY PEOPLE TODAY OF THEIR FRIENDS LET'S START WITH ANDREW SULLIVAN WHERE... |
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I WAS IN PROVINCETOWN WHERE I SPEND THE SUMMERS, AND I WAS WORKING -- WOKEN UP BY A FRIEND OF MINE... |
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MR. HITCHENS, WHERE WERE YOU? |
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I WAS IN WALLA WALLA, WASHINGTON, ON THE BORDER OF IDAHO AT WHITMAN COLLEGE GIVING THE SCOOP JACKSON... |
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SCOOP JACKSON PROBABLY WOULD HAVE HATED THAT. |
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HE WAS SOFT ON STALIN. HE HAS BEEN ALWAYS GROVELING TO THE COMMUNIST AND WAS TO BREZHNEV AND WAS WHEN... |
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WE HAVE A LONG TIME WITH THESE TWO GENTLEMEN. WE'LL GET TO SEE WHERE THEY DIFFER. SO FAR THEY HAVEN'T.... |
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WHEN I HEARD YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE THE TWO GUESTS ON. I COULDN'T WAIT. I HAD TO STAY HOME. I THOUGHT... |
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THANKS, HOLLYWOOD, I HOPE THESE TWO -- IF YOU ARE GOING TO STAY HOME, I HOPE THESE TWO WILL ENTERTAIN... |
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HE DIDN'T ASK A LAUGH-INDUCING QUESTION. DID HE. |
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NO, HE DIDN'T. |
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HE ASKED A PERFECTLY GOOD QUESTION. WELL, THERE WAS A TEAMSTERS UNION OFFICIAL UP ON THE HILL BEHIND... |
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MA NAS AS, VIRGINIA, REPUBLICAN LINE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. |
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YES. I THINK THE AMERICAN CULTURE IS THE STRONGEST ON THE PLANET BECAUSE OF GENTLEMEN LIKE THIS WHO... |
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I'M THRILLED, CHRIS PROBABLY AGREES WITH ME, BY A CHANCE TO LIVE IN A TRULY MULTICULTURAL SOCIETY.... |
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PITTSBURGH. |
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GOOD MORNING, BRIAN. I WANTED TO SAY A FEW COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS TO BOTH YOUR GUESTS, ANDREW AND... |
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OH, HI, BRIAN. |
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YOU DON'T LOOK THAT BAD TODAY. I HAVE SEEN YOU WORSE IN THE MORNING. |
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WHERE ARE WE REQUESTING WITH THIS? |
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WELL, THAT SAID, THAT SAID. MY COMMENTS, ARE, THOUGH, AFTER THE WORLD TRADE CENTER AND ALL OF THE... |
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LET ME JUST ASK YOU BEFORE WE LOSE YOU, WHY ARE YOU MR. HITCHENS' GREAT CONTRARYIAN? HAVE YOU SEEN... |
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HE CAME TO -- WELL, I HAVE MET HIM -- I HAVE MET HIM AND KNOWN HIM FOR A WHILE. HE CAME TO PITTSBURGH... |
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IT'S SO GREAT IN THIS COUNTRY THAT I COULD HAVE BEEN OR WAS FOR A SEMESTER, THE ANDREW W. MELLON PROFESSOR... |
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HE MIGHT HAVE FELT DIFFERENTLY THAN SCOOP JACKSON. |
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IT WAS ANOTHER GREAT AMERICAN RANDOLPH BORN THAT WAR IS THE HEALTH OF THE STATE. THERE ARE A LOT OF... |
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ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE "POST," INTERINDICATE SCREENING OF FLIERS IN THE WORKS. FEDERAL AVIATION... |
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ARE YOU TALKING TO |
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I'M TALKING TO YOU. |
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ARE YOU TALKING TO ME! |
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ARE YOU TALKING TO ME! |
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EYE APOLOGIES. |
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IT WILL NEVER SOUND SAME. |
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I HAVE BEEN READING NICI. I HOPE THESE GENTLEMEN CAN HELP ME ON THIS. |
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OH, DEAR. |
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I HAVE BEEN FLOORED BY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE BEEN READING. HE TALKS ABOUT GOOD AND EVIL.... |
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WHY, BY THE WAY, CALLER, ARE YOU READING NICI? |
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I JUST PICKED UP THIS BOOK. IT'S THE PORTABLE NICI, WRITTEN BY WALTER KAUFFMAN. HE'S I GUESS ONE OF... |
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I LIKE THE IDEA OF NICI BEING PORTABLE. THAT WOULD BE THE LAST WORD THAT I WOULD THINK OF. I THINK... |
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I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD READ HIM TO FIND OUT WHAT'S WRONG, SHOULD READ NICI. WHAT HE WAS ABOUT, ESSENTIALLY... |
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LET'S GO TO CALIFORNIA. GOOD MORNING. |
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COUPLE OTHER THINGS BEFORE I ASK MR. SULLIVAN SOMETHING. ON THE GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD, WE... |
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BY NO MEANS. NO MEANS ALL. |
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AND ASK THE SURVIVORS OF THE HOLOCAUST WHO THE GREATEST COUNTRY IS. MR. SULLIVAN, I VISITED YOUR WEB... |
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NO. I'M SURE YOU'RE NOT. I APPRECIATE YOUR POSITION. MY POSITION IS THE OPPOSITE. TO HAVE EQUALITY... |
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DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE THE SUBJECT OF AN EDITORIAL IN THE |
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I DID NOT KNOW THAT. |
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WE'LL SHARE WITH YOU IN A MINUTE. DETROIT, MICHIGAN. HELLO. YOU'RE ON WITH CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS... |
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GOOD MORNING. I LOVE C-SPAN. CHRISTOPHER, HAVE YOU HAD ANY RIGHT WING BACKLASH FROM THE BOOK THAT... |
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TO THE FIRST, I HAD DISOBLIGE DISOBLIGING REVIEWS FROM KEVSIVES, BUT ALSO FROM LIBERALS ABOUT KISSINGER.... |
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AS I -- SORRY TO INTERRUPT. IN TODAY'S "WALL STREET JOURNAL," IT'S UNDER THIS HEADLINE, SCRIBBLERS... |
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OH, PLEASE. I HAD NO IDEA THEY WANTED TO RUN IT AGAIN IN EUROPE. MY EDITOR IN LONDON ASKED ME TO ... |
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CAN I ADD SOMETHING. BY THE WAY, EVEN IF HE PLAYED FAST AND LOOSE WITH THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL,"... |
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THEY JUST SAID HE WASN'T VERY NICE. |
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THE PRINCIPAL IN SOME CORPORATE CULTURES SEEMS TO APPLY, INCLUDING ENRON SEEMS TO BE THAT OF ORGANIZED... |
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WHEN I E-MAILED BILL CRYSTAL, THEY HAD AN ADVISORY BOARD, THIS SHELL INSTITUTION TO PAY OFF THE JFRLISTS,... |
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SUN VALLEY, IDAHO. REPUBLICAN LINE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. |
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FISH WRAPPED IN NEWSPAPER. |
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THIS IS RUSTY FROM IDAHO, AND I BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY ASKED THE WRONG QUESTION. THE QUESTION SHOULD... |
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IN YOUR OPINION, IS THERE A COUNTRY THAT IS GREATER THAN THE UNITED STATES? |
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WE'RE NOT PERFECT, BUT WHO IN THE HECK IS? |
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ACTUALLY, I ASKED WRONG QUESTION. THE REAL QUESTION I WANTED TO SKRX AND I CAN'T ASK IT VERY ARTICULATELY,... |
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I STILL SORT OF AGREE WITH CHRISTOPHER, I THINK IF YOU HAVE TO YELL, THAT YOU AREN'T. I MEAN, IT'S... |
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TASK, CALIFORNIA, ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE. GOOD MORNING. YOU'RE ON WITH CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS AND ANDREW... |
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GOOD MORNING. |
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GOOD MORNING. |
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I HAVE ABOUT FOUR THINGS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS ALL HAVING TO DO WITH SUBJECTS BROUGHT UP ON YOUR PROGRAM.... |
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MR. HITCHENS, PICK ONE OF THOSE. |
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I'LL SKIP GAY MARRIAGE. |
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WHY? |
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IT'S NOT MY SUBJECT. |
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CAN BE SO OWNER RUSS, JUST BECAUSE I'M GAY I SHOULDN'T BE THE ONLY ONE SUPPORTING IT IT. |
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THERE ARE ONE OR TWO SUBJECTS WHERE I OCCASIONALLY WISH THERE WAS LESS CONTROVERSY. I KNOW IT SOUNDS... |
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HOW ABOUT LOSS OF FREEDOM. |
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I DON'T WANT TO SEEM GLIB OR FLIPPANT, BUT I THINK FOR MARRIAGES, METRO SEXUALS, THERE WILL ALWAYS... |
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I REMEMBER ONCE I WAS IN A MEETING IN LONDON AND THERE WAS A DEBATE, AND SOMEONE SAID, LOOK I THINK... |
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LET'S GO TO POMDALE, CALIFORNIA, REPUBLICAN LINE, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. YOU'RE ON WITH CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS... |
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NO PROBLEM. |
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GO AHEAD, PALMDALE. |
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GOOD MORNING. HOW ARE YOU DOING. |
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TOO EARLY TO SAY. |
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IT'S EARLY IN THE MORNING, BUT I HAVE TO THINK FOR A SECOND. |
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YOU AND ME BOTH. |
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I HAVE A REBUFF A LITTLE BIT FOR THE GUY THAT CALLED AND SAID HE WAS A VIETNAM VETERAN AND CARED TO... |
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SURE. |
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IS THIS GAY POLYGAMY OR POLYGAMY IN GENERAL. |
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POLYGAMY CAN'T BE BECAUSE -- |
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IF YOU HAD GAY MARRIAGE. |
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NO, I THINK A -- THE ACTUAL MAN WITH MANY. |
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POLYANDRI IS -- |
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YES. |
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A WOMAN WITH MANY HUSBANDS. |
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THERE ARE OTHER PITFALLS AS WELL. |
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CAN I ANSWER THE QUESTION. LOOK, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO MARRY ANYBODY.... |
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CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS, BOB WOODWARD AND DAN BOELS HAVE BEEN WRITING A SORRIES THIS IS THE SIXTH. 10... |
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NO, I HAVEN'T, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN OUT OF TOWN. I INTEND TO. |
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I HAVE BEEN READING IT DEVOTEDLY, IT IT'S AN AMAZING PIECE OF WORK. |
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THE REASON I BRING IT UP, SERIES LIKE THIS AND WHY THIS PROGRAM IS HERE, WE DON'T DO JUSTICE TO IT,... |
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I THINK IT SHOWS WITHOUT A SHADOW OF THE DOUBT THAT THE NOTION OF THIS PRESIDENT IS SOME SORT OF SIFER,... |
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MR. SULLIVAN IS ON THE RIGHT, I GUESS IT WOULD BE FAIR TO SAY. SERVE TIFF. |
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IT WOULD BE FAIR TO SAY. |
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HE'S COMMENTED ON AN ARTICLE WRITTEN BY BOB WOODWARD AND DON BALLS THAT CONSERVATIVES WOULD THINK... |
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THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY TRUE, BOB WOODWARD IS A CONSERVATIVE AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN. |
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I DON'T MEAN TO UNDERMINE THIS PIECE OF WHICH I HAVE HEARD GREAT REPORTS. THE LAST SERIES IS WHY DAN... |
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OF COURSE. |
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IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN THIS REPUBLIC POSSIBLE FOR ANYBODY TO BE THE PRESIDENT. THIS MAY BE THE MOST... |
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ONE THING I THINK PEOPLE MS. UNDERSTAND IT WAS CLASS NICK GORE AND BUSH AND THAT WHOLE ELECTION, THERE... |
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WHAT IS THAT? |
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IS THAT AN ENGLISH EXPRESSION. |
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AN ENGLISH SEASIDE EXPRESSION. |
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I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. |
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I COULDN'T RUN ANYTHING VERY WELL, WHEN I WAS EDITOR OF THE "NEW REPUBLIC," FRANKLY, I WAS A BAD MANAGER... |
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CHICAGO, DEMOCRATIC LINE. |
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GOOD MORNING. BRIAN, I ACTUALLY LIKED SECOND PHRASE OF YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE GREATEST COUNTRY. ... |
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THANKS. |
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MR. HITCHENS. |
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WELL, LOOK. WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT. WE HAVEN'T EXHAUSTED THIS TOPIC, CLEARLY. WHEN I THINK OF AMERICA... |
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I THINK THERE NEEDS -- ANYONE THAT GOES AROUND SAYING, UNIRONICALLY, WELL, IF YOU KNOW A BETTER COUNTRY,... |
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I WOULD POINT OUT, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S LUCKY, BUT GOODNESS,THINK OF THE PEOPLE THAT GOT HERE. THE... |
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IT'S NATIVE OIL AND COAL AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU CAN IMAGINE. THE. |
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STILL, THE ABILITY OF THE IMGRANTS TO COME HERE AND CONSTRUCT IN A MATTER OF 100, 200 YEARS THE MOST... |
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THE PEOPLE WHO WERE LIVING HERE ALREADY --. |
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TO BE SURE. |
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WHO WILL NOT FORGET. |
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IS THAT A STORY, BY THE WAY. |
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NOBODY'S PART OF THAT. |
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NO ONE SHOULD BE PROUD OF THAT. |
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THIS MORNING ABOUT CANADA'S LOONEY HEADING SOUTH. |
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HE MAKE AS VACATION? |
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NO, IT'S THE DOLLAR. THE CANADIAN DOLLAR. ON JANUARY 18th, THE CANADIAN DOLLAR HAD A RECORD CLOSING... |
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THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. THIS IS FOR CHRISTOPHER, IT'S A COMMENT AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CHRISTOPHER.... |
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WELL, TO YOUR FIRST POINT, I WOULD SAY NO THINKING SMERN PROUD, I DON'T THINK OR I WOULD HOPE, OF... |
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THE PRESIDENT IS PERFECTLY AWARE THAT THERE ARE PRO AMERICAN DEMONSTRATIONS IN IRAN, EVERY DAY. HE'S... |
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ORLANDO, FLORIDA, REPUBLICAN LINE. |
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HI. |
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GO AHEAD. |
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YES, WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY THAT PROBABLY GOING TO BE PRETTY UPSETTING TO BOTH OF YOU GENTLEMEN. BUT... |
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U HUCHLT-OH. DO YOU BELIEVE IN -- HETEROSEXUALS, WE GET MARRIED BECAUSE OUR MARRIAGE IS SEALED BY... |
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Y JUST POINT OUT TO YOU -- LET ME POINT OUT THAT YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO THAT. BUT WE DO NOT LIVE... |
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THEN LET ME DEFEND MY CASE, THEN. |
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THERE ISN'T A SEPARATION BETWEEN THE CHURCH AND STATE. THERE IS, TECHNICALLY BUT NOT REALLY. I HAVE... |
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I'M SORRY, BUT I FIND THE EQUATION OF A HUMAN BEING TO A BEAST OF HOMOSEXUALS TO ANIMALS TO BE SOMETHING... |
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IT IT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHEN YOU SAID THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE WAS TECHNICAL ONLY RATHER... |
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THIS E-MAIL FROM A WOMAN NAMED EVA, HERRING, YES, IF ARE YOU A RICH WHITE MALE, A RICH WHITE MALE... |
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GOOD MORNING. GENTLEMEN. ALL THREE. I'M A GREAT ADMIRER OF BOTH OF YOUR WORKS, MR. HITCHEN, I SHOULD... |
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WE'RE ALL BEHAVING THIS MORNING. |
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CONTENTS UNDER PRESSURE. |
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FIRST OF ALL FOR THE SAKE OF FULL DISCLOSURE. I KNOW MR. HITCHENS, AND I HAVE BEEN TO HIS HOME AND... |
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THAT, BY THE WAY, CHRISTOPHER AND I DISAGREE ON THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ABOUT, YOU KNOW WHETHER... |
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INDEED. |
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GO AHEAD, CALL PERSON. |
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I HAVE TWO ISSUE, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WISH ISSUE, WHICH IS A SMALL ONE. I RANKED CLINTON AS ONE OF... |
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YOU'RE FLATTERING. |
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WITH HIS MARRIAGE, I WOULD BE. MRS. HARDING WAS OUTSTANDING. MY OTHER QUESTION WAS ABOUT COLIN POWELL.... |
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THANKS, CALLER. I THINK THAT ONE HAS TO MAKE A DISTINCTION HERE. COLIN POWELL WAS ASKED TO SERVE ... |
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LET ME GET A STATEMENT IN HERE. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EITHER ONE OF YOU. DURING THE CALL-IN... |
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WHAT'S THE STORY OF THAT ANNOUNCEMENT? |
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WOULDN'T THAT BE FUN? |
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THE FACT OF MATTER SHE STATED IT, AND IT'S NOT TRUE. |
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FAIR ENOUGH. VERY HIGH STANDARD SHOW. |
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WE DID NOT SAY IT. |
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SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO LAUGH. |
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I WANT TO ECHO ANDREW AGAIN. I ROUGHLY WOULD HAVE SAID THE SAME THING, BUT I WANTED TO ADD ON THE... |
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WE HAVE TO DO THIS QUICKLY BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE WAITING. THIS IS AN E-MAIL, I HAVE READ THAT THE... |
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PROFESSOR CHAMSKY HAS MADE MANY OTHER GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS ALSO, DISAGREES WITH ME OR I WITH HIM OVER... |
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"NEW REPUBLIC" LISTING TO THE RIGHT? |
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I HAVE NEVER MET THEM AND I DON'T KNOW. MY -- WHAT I'M TOLD IS THAT THE EDITORIAL POLICY REMAINS THE... |
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WHATEVER THAT IS. |
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WHATEVER THAT IS. |
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CAPE COD, MASSACHUSETTS. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. |
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GOOD MORNING. A QUESTION FOR MR. HITCHENS, PLEASE. |
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YOU'RE GOING. YOU'RE ON. |
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ASK AWAY. |
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DO YOU BELIEVE IT'S HEALTHY FOR THE UNITED STATES TO BE SO MUCH INFLUENCED BY ISRAEL? WE ARE A LARGE... |
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THANKS. WELL, BELIEVE ME, I KNOW, I BELIEVE I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. THERE ARE VARIOUS TONES OF... |
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LET ME SAME PLI SAY THAT THE UNITED STATES DEFENSE OF THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST, ONE THAT... |
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YOU SUPPORT THE DEFENSE OF THE OCCUPATION AS WELL. |
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THERE'S NOTHING DEMOCRATIC ABOUT THE OCCUPATION, ANDREW. |
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THERE WAS NOTHING DEMOCRATIC ABOUT THE WAR THAT WAS LAUNCHED ON ISRAEL THAT RESULTED IN THE OCCUPATION.... |
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1956. |
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I DO BELIEVE AS YOU DO IN THE TWO STATE SOLUTION. HOWEVER, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ONE OF STATES SHOULD... |
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TARA, INDIANA HOME OF EUGENE DEBS. |
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I'M SO SHOCKED THAT I GOT ON THAT I HOPE THAT I CAN SOUND RATIONAL IN MY STATEMENT. |
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YOU'LL BE FINE. |
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I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT YES, PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME TO THE UNITED STATES AND HAVE BEEN HERE FOR VERY... |
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THANKS, CALL HE, GOT THE POINT. LET ME ASK, DO YOU HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE. |
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SURE, I HAVE ONE BECAUSE I WRITE FOR THE "NATION" MAGAZINE, WE SUBSCRIBE TO THE UNITED AUTO WORKERS... |
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I'M PLIED -- EMPLOYED BY MRK "NEW REPUBLIC" AND AS SOMEONE LIVING WITH HIV, THAT IS OF GREAT IMPORTANCE... |
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ARE YOU RICH? |
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I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD DEFINE THAT. I'M CERTAINLY NOT GETTING -- |
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NOT IN THE SENSE OF WORLDLY GOODS. DON'T WORRY. |
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IN THE SENSE OF THE CALL PERSON SHE SAID BOTH OF YOU HAD HEALTH INSURANCE AND WERE RICH. |
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SHE WAS TRYING TO RELATE THAT BEING IMMIGRANTS. I CAME HERE WITH A SCHOLARSHIPS AND DIDN'T KNOW A... |
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ARE YOU RICH, MR. HITCHENS? |
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YEAH. I WOULD SAY AS MOST PEOPLE WHERE THESE THINGS. I MAKE FAR MORE MONEY THAT THAN I EVER EXPECTED,... |
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I SHOULD ASK YOU WHETHER YOU ARE A SOCIALIST. |
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I THINK YOU HAVE BEEN TAUNTING ME FOR 20 YEARS. |
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YES. |
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I THINK I MAY HAVE REFUSED THE QUESTION IN MY OWN MIND FOR QUITE A WHILE BECAUSE I WASN'T GOING TO... |
| 01:05:52 |
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SO FOOD YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US AN ANSWER? |
| 01:05:55 |
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I THINK THAT IF YOU ASK YOURSELF, IS THERE AN INTERNATIONAL SOCIALIST MOVEMENT IF NOT, IS IT GOING... |
| 01:06:22 |
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THIS IS TRULY A NEW DAWN, CHRISTOPHER. INALLY -- THINK YOU'RE DUCKING. |
| 01:06:28 |
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I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME. I STARTED UP ON IT, BECAUSE I WASN'T GOING TO GIVE... |
| 01:06:40 |
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I'M TRYING TO SEIZE THE SATISFACTION. YOU KEEP SAYING THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE EXTESHAL REASONS. THERE... |
| 01:06:49 |
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AREN'T YOU INTELLECTUAL APPRISE OF THE BELIEF THAT CLEARLY SOCIALIST COUNTRIES HAVE FAILED DEMONSTRATABLY... |
| 01:07:11 |
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MR. LAMB AND MYSELF, OUR ARGUMENT, PART OF THE POSITION IS WHAT DOES SOCIALISM MEAN, DOES ANY COUNTRY... |
| 01:07:23 |
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OUR OWN COUNTRY. FROM 1945 TO 1979, IT RUINED THE UNITED KINGDOM, RUINED IT, EE MISS RATED IT, DEPRESSED... |
| 01:07:39 |
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LOS ANGELES OPT REPUBLICAN LINE. GOOD MORNING. |
| 01:07:41 |
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GOOD MORNING. WHAT A GREAT CONVERSATION TO WAKE UP TO. YOU TWO ARE -- |
| 01:07:49 |
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WE KNOW HOW YOU FEEL. |
| 01:07:52 |
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I'M A GAY REPUBLICAN CATHOLIC ALSO. |
| 01:07:56 |
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YOU MAKE ME FEEL LESS ALONE. |
| 01:07:58 |
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I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT ONE OF THE CHARMS WOULD BE HOW FEE OF YOU THERE ARE. IT'S A VERY EXCLUSIVE CLUB.... |
| 01:08:04 |
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THERE ARE MANY, MANY MORE OF US THAN WOULD YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE. |
| 01:08:07 |
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I KNOW. THE PLACE IS HEAVING WITH THEM. |
| 01:08:12 |
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MR. HITCHENS, WHEN YOU WERE AT THE NATION, DID YOU EVER GET TEMPTED WHEN YOU WERE MEETING WITH KATRINA... |
| 01:08:26 |
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FOR A MINUTE I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERRING TO THE ONLY OTHER TEMPTATION THAT I HAD WITH I -- WHEN I... |
| 01:08:43 |
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LET'S ASK THE FELLA FROM LOS ANGELES WHY YOU ASK. |
| 01:08:47 |
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HE'S IMPERTINENT. THIS WOMAN WAS ASKING IF WE WERE RICH. THIS IS THE MOST IMPERTINENT MAN ON TELEVISION.... |
| 01:08:54 |
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MR. LOS ANGELES, COME THROUGH PLEASE. |
| 01:08:57 |
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I FOUND HER TO BE DISINGENUOUS DURING THE ELECTION ELECTION FIASCO. |
| 01:09:02 |
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YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN. |
| 01:09:04 |
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IT'S DIFFICULT TO EVEN WATCH HER. |
| 01:09:07 |
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I'LL TELL YOU THIS FOR NOTHING, IT MAKES ME LAUGH THAT ANYONE WOULD HAVE WANTED AL GORE TO BE PRESIDENT... |
| 01:09:39 |
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AND I THINK SHE DESERVES AN AWARD. |
| 01:09:41 |
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THE ONLY TEMPT TAGSS ARE ENTIRELY CON GRUT WITH BEING NOT EITHER GAY REPUBLICAN OR CATHOLIC. |
| 01:09:49 |
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SHE DESERVES A REWARD FOR MANAGING TO RECONCILE COMPLETELY UNIMAGINABLE WEALTH AND SOCIALISM. BUT... |
| 01:10:00 |
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SEEM TO BE A LOT OF LOW BLOWS FLYING AROUND, I THINK ANYONE CAN SEE HER, EVERY SWORD FROM FLY FROM... |
| 01:10:12 |
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BAT MOVER, YOU'RE NEXT. |
| 01:10:13 |
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GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. |
| 01:10:14 |
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| 01:10:16 |
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I HAVE A ONE-LINE QUOTE AND A QUESTION FROM CHRISTOPHER. BEN BENJAMIN DISRAILLY SAID THAT THE WORLD... |
| 01:10:39 |
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ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT LIVING IN AMERICA IS THE FANTASTIC NUMBER OF BELIEFS THAT THERE ARE... |
| 01:11:34 |
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MR. SULLIVAN -- |
| 01:11:36 |
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AND THE WAY IN WHICH THE GOVERNMENT CONSIDERS THAT'S NOBODY'S BUSINESS BUT THEIRS. THERE SHOULD BE... |
| 01:11:43 |
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THE CRITICAL CATALYST FOR THIS CANCER ON THIS REPUBLIC WAS BILL CLINTON WHO WAS THE BEST AGGRESSIVE... |
| 01:11:53 |
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WELL, I DON'T DISAGREE EXCEPT THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT HE WAS WORSE THAN NIXON IN THAT WAY. HE WANTED... |
| 01:12:00 |
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AS A CURRENT MAT, PLEASE, BACK IN THE FRAY, GORE ANNOUNCES PAC, GEARING UP FOR POSSIBLE '04 PRESIDENTIAL... |
| 01:12:19 |
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WE KNOW WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM. LET'S KEEP GOING. WARREN, WARREN, PENNSYLVANIA. |
| 01:12:24 |
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MIME AGHAST. -- I'M AGHAST. |
| 01:12:29 |
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YES, CONCERNING THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH, WE ARE IN A LOT OF WAYS, BUT IF YOU TAKE A STANDARD... |
| 01:13:10 |
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THANKS. |
| 01:13:17 |
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IT'S VERY HARD TO VOTE OUT MASSIVE BUREAUCRACIES WHEN THEY BECOME ENTRENCHED. YOU SHOULD ALSO ASK... |
| 01:13:32 |
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HE WAS IMPLYING THAT THEY DO. |
| 01:13:35 |
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THERE'S A DIVERSITY OF OPINION ABOUT THAT. IN THE UNITED KINGDOM, THE COLLAPSE OF THAT SYSTEM IS NOW... |
| 01:14:26 |
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HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HIV POSITIVE, NINE -- COMING UP FOR NINE YEARS. |
| 01:14:31 |
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THIS E-MAIL, WOULD BOTH OF YOU PLEASE GO OUT ON A PERSONAL LIMB AND GIVE C-SPAN'S AUDIENCE YOUR PRESCRIPTION... |
| 01:14:50 |
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I WOULD SAY YES, AND I WOULD SAY THE MAIN REASON IS I CAN'T THINK WHO THE DEMOCRATS WOULD EVEN CONTEMPLATE... |
| 01:15:00 |
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I WOULD SAY THAT I HAVE NO IDEA. IT'S FOOLISH TO SAY SO. THE WORLD CAN CHANGE OVERNIGHT. THE FOX NEWS... |
| 01:15:15 |
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THE DEMOCRATS ARE AMAZINGLY CLAMPED ONTO IT. |
| 01:15:19 |
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JOHNSON CITY, TENNESSEE, YOU'RE ON. |
| 01:15:22 |
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GOOD MORNING, BRIAN, CHRISTOPHER AND ANDREW. HOW ARE YOU TODAY? |
| 01:15:25 |
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GOOD. |
| 01:15:26 |
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SO-SO. |
| 01:15:28 |
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PARDON ME? |
| 01:15:30 |
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WE'RE FEELING SO-SO. IT'S THE -- |
| 01:15:32 |
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THIS IS NEW FOR THEM. THEY DON'T LIKE GETTING UP AT THIS HOUR. GO AHEAD, CALLER. |
| 01:15:37 |
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IMI HAVE BEEN UP SINCE 7. SO SO I WAS VERY TAKEN ABACK BY THE RUDE STATEMENT FROM THE PREVIOUS CALLER... |
| 01:16:51 |
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THANKS, CALLER. LET'S START WITH CHRISTOPHER HITCHEN. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT. |
| 01:16:58 |
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I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE TALKING SNAKE. THE CALLER SOUNDS SO SWEET, I ALMOST DIDN'T WANT TO SAY WHAT... |
| 01:17:07 |
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YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ANY OF THIS. |
| 01:17:09 |
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I THINK IT IS A VERY NASTY FAIRY TAIL AND I'M RELIEVED IT'S NOT TRUE. |
| 01:17:15 |
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ARE YOU AN ATHEIST. |
| 01:17:20 |
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I'M AN ANTI-THEEIST. THE DISCOVERY THAT WILL IS NOT A GOD BECAUSE IT WOULD BE LIKE LIVING IN A SELL... |
| 01:17:45 |
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KEL, CHRISTOPHER. |
| 01:17:47 |
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THAT'S WHAT I REALLY THINK ABOUT RELIGION. |
| 01:17:49 |
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LET ME TALK ABOUT THAT. WE CAN COME TOGETHER ON CONSTITUTION -- WE CAN BOTH EXIST IN THIS REPUBLIC... |
| 01:17:59 |
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THE NOTION -- |
| 01:18:01 |
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THE NOTION THAT BELIEF IN GOD AND LOVE OF CHRIST IS SOME SORT OF PERMANENT SLAVERY THAT ONE LIVES... |
| 01:19:16 |
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SEE, IT'S SUPPOSED TO SOUND MODEST AND HUMBLE, THINK OF THE ARROGANT CLAIM IT REALLY IS. YOU TEND... |
| 01:19:23 |
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YOU CLAIM TO THINK THAT HE HAS A PLAN FOR YOU. |
| 01:19:25 |
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NO, I DON'T. |
| 01:19:26 |
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THIS IS THE UNBELIEVABLE CONCEIT OF THE HUMBLE AND MEEK. |
| 01:19:30 |
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IT'S AMAZING CONCEIT. |
| 01:19:32 |
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HERE'S WHY I THINK IT'S AUTHORITARIAN. I'M TOLD THERE WAS A HUMAN SACRIFICE THAT TOOK PLACE 2,000... |
| 01:20:03 |
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TUL SARX OKLAHOMA ON THE DEMOCRATIC LINE, YOU'RE NEXT. |
| 01:20:05 |
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YOU'RE ON THE AIR, SIR, THANK YOU. |
| 01:20:07 |
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THIS IS MY FIRST TIME CALLING, SO I MIGHT BE NERVOUS. |
| 01:20:11 |
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THAT'S ALL RIGHT. |
| 01:20:12 |
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MY QUESTION IS, I HAVE KNOW YOU HAVE WATCHED YOU THIS MORNING DEBATING THE GREATNESS OF THE UNITED... |
| 01:21:15 |
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I THINK NOT ONLY CAN WE, WE MUST. HOWEVER, I WOULD SAY THE FOLLOWING THING, I THINK IT'S ALSO VERY... |
| 01:21:56 |
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WHAT OUT NOT TO BE FORGOTTEN BUT REGULARLY EMPHASIZED THAT THE UNITED STATES AND THE PEOPLE OF THE... |
| 01:22:39 |
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CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS IS A GRADUATE OF BLAIO COLLEGE AT OXFORD. |
| 01:22:48 |
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THAT WAS WHEN MR. CLINTON AND STROBE TAL TALBOTT AND ROBERT REICH AND THE ROGUE SCLOL SCHOLARS. I... |
| 01:23:20 |
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NO. EXCUSE ME. WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS I HOPE NOT. WE BOTH HAVE BEEN FRIENDS WITH THE SAME GIRL. ... |
| 01:23:34 |
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DOES THAT MAKE YOU ABOUT 55 YEARS OLD. |
| 01:23:37 |
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NO., I WILL BE 53 IN APRIL. |
| 01:23:38 |
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MR. SULLIVAN, HOW OLD ARE |
| 01:23:39 |
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I'M 38. |
| 01:23:42 |
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YOU'RE A GRADUATE OF P.H.D. FROM HARVARD. |
| 01:23:44 |
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AND OXFORD, YES. |
| 01:23:46 |
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LET ME ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A CALL. THIS IS WAY OFF THE SUBJECT, BUT I WANT... |
| 01:23:57 |
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I DON'T DO SPORTS. |
| 01:23:58 |
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NO. |
| 01:24:00 |
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WHAT WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE CONCEPT. |
| 01:24:04 |
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THEY MADE ME DO THEM A LOT IN ENGLISH BOYS SCHOOLS, GET UP AND HAVE A SHOWER AND PLAY GAMES AND HAVE... |
| 01:24:10 |
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IT'S USUALLY THE SINGLE MOST TELEVISION WATCHED TELEVISION SHOW IN AMERICA. |
| 01:24:18 |
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IT'S ALSO BONDING. |
| 01:24:22 |
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I HAVE A BOYFRIEND WHO IS AN OBSESSIVE FOOTBALL FAN, I WAKE UP AND GO TO BED TO THE SOUND OF HIM CRACKING... |
| 01:24:38 |
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IS THIS YOUR IDEA OF MARRIAGE. IT SOUNDS VERY RIGHT FROM A HETEROSEXUAL. |
| 01:24:43 |
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IT IS EXACTLY LIKE A HETEROSEXUAL MARRIAGE. |
| 01:24:46 |
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AS WELL AS BEING A COMPLETE SPORTS JOCK AND MANIAC, A PROFESSOR, WHICH IS MY VIEW THE BEST OF ALL... |
| 01:24:58 |
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IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE -- IF THIS IS POSSIBLE, WHETHER THERE ARE -- WHERE THE... |
| 01:25:12 |
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GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROGRAM. IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'M CALLING. MY QUESTION... |
| 01:26:10 |
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WELL, ON THE FIRST POINT ABOUT EXPLOITATION AS YOU CALL IT, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT THE CONGO,... |
| 01:27:39 |
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LET ME SEA THE NOTION OF EXPLOITATION. |
| 01:27:42 |
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AS FOR THE ISRAELIS, I MUSTN'T SEEM TO DUCK THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW HOW TOXIC IT IS. IF YOU... |
| 01:28:00 |
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ANDREW SULLIVAN. |
| 01:28:02 |
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I WOULD SAY THIS CONCEPT OF EXPLOITATION, AMERICA BY BEING A BEACON AROUND THE WORLD IS EXPLOITING... |
| 01:29:10 |
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THERE'S NO OCCUPATION OF PLACES AGAINST THEIR WILL BY THE UNITED STATES IN MY MENNINGFUL SENSE COMPARED... |
| 01:29:18 |
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I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS THAT THE CUBAN PEOPLE SIGNED OFF AN HAVING THE GUANTANAMO BAY BASE ON THERE.... |
| 01:29:25 |
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COMPARED TO THE BRITISH EMPIRE OR NAZI OCCUPATION. |
| 01:29:30 |
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ALSO THE AMERICAN OCCUPATION OF CUBAN CUBA AND OTHER COUNTRIES BELL PREINDICATES THE BOLSHEVIK REGIME.... |
| 01:29:45 |
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GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. LIKEWISE TO YOU, BRIAN AND C-SPAN. FIRST I THINK WHEN THE PRESIDENT USES... |
| 01:30:32 |
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LET ME ASK YOU SOME THINGS. THERE'S A BIG NEWSPAPER ARTICLE IN BOTH OF YOU ON THE "NEW YORK OBSERVER... |
| 01:30:46 |
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ACUTELY EMBARRASSING ARTICLE,xD I THOUGHT. |
| 01:30:48 |
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EMBARRASSING? |
| 01:30:50 |
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IT WAS MEANT TO BE FLATTERING AND IT WAS EXTREMELY COMPLIMENTARY. |
| 01:30:56 |
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HE OPENED WITH THE QUESTION WHY WE'RE TWO ENGLISH WRITERS IN HIS VIEW, PRODUCING THE BEST STUFF ON... |
| 01:31:32 |
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WHAT DID YOU THINK? |
| 01:31:34 |
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I THINK IT WAS FLATTERING. ORWELL WAS THE PERSON THAT I READ WHEN I WAS 12, 13, 14, HE WAS IS ICON... |
| 01:32:03 |
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EVEN AUTHOR ANDREW TO BE COMPARED, I WINCED MORE WHEN ANDREW WAS COMPARED WITH HIM, BUT THEN AGAIN... |
| 01:32:16 |
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INDIA. THE ONLY PLACE WHERE I FELT SO INSTANTLY AT HOME. WHICH MUST SEEN INCON GREW US. |
| 01:32:24 |
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ANDREW SULLIVAN. |
| 01:32:25 |
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I WOULD DIE. |
| 01:32:27 |
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YOU WOULD NOT PICK ANYWHERE |
| 01:32:28 |
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NO. |
| 01:32:30 |
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DELTON, MICHIGAN, YOU'RE ON THE AIR. |
| 01:32:32 |
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THANK YOU, BRIAN. THANK GOD FOR C-SPAN. GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN. |
| 01:32:37 |
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GOOD MORNING. |
| 01:32:39 |
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I WAS WON KERRING IF I WE COULD TAKE A DIFFERENT TACK ON THE VICE PRESIDENT BEING SUED BY THE GAO.... |
| 01:33:18 |
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I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE STORY THAT YOU MENTIONED. I HAVE HEARD OF IT, BUT I IMAGINE... |
| 01:34:18 |
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DO YOU SHOW THAT SHOWS THAT YOU HAVE A NATURAL RIGHT TO RULE |
| 01:34:22 |
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NO. |
| 01:34:25 |
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I THINK THERE IS A CLEARLY -- YOU CANNOT GOVERN EFFECTIVELY UNLESS YOU CAN TALK FREELY AMONGST YOURSELVES.... |
| 01:34:33 |
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YOU HAVE BEEN PRAISING MR. BUSH AS LONG AS CAN HE CONTROL THE WAY IT'S DONE, CAN MAKE US AWARE OF... |
| 01:35:05 |
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CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT THE DIARY. APPARENTLY, I SAY APPARENTLY, I DIDN'T SEE IT, I HAVE READ... |
| 01:35:31 |
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THIS IS ABOUT PRIVACY. IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT MATTER. IT'S BEING DESTROYED IN OUR CULTURE, THE ABILITY... |
| 01:35:44 |
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THE 39 OUGHT TO BE ALLOWED TO SHOW IT WHEN HE WANTS TO AND THEN NOT. |
| 01:35:49 |
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IT'S HIS PREROGATIVE WHETHER HIS GENUINELY PRIVATE MATTERS SHOULD BE DISBURSED TO THE PUBLIC. WITHOUT... |
| 01:35:58 |
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NO ONE WOULD WATCH. |
| 01:36:00 |
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NO ONE WOULD TURN ON. NO ONE WOULD WATCH IT. |
| 01:36:04 |
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THE GUY HAS TO HAVE -- SOME PRIVACY. HOW CAN YOU GOVERN A COUNTRY WHEN EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAY. |
| 01:36:09 |
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MAYBE WHERE HE LIVES, IT IS NOT HIS HOME, IT IS NOT HIS HOUSE, IT BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE. IT WAS MRS.... |
| 01:36:24 |
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I AGREE WITH YOU, CHRISTOPHER CLEARLY, HOWEVER, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME SHPEER IN WHICH YOU CAN TALK... |
| 01:36:43 |
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I THINK THE VICE PRESIDENT SHOULD GAVE NAMES, DATES, TIMES, NOT NECESSARILY CONTENT, I THINK THEY... |
| 01:36:54 |
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WEST SEND KARX NEW YORK, REPUBLICAN LINE. GOOD MORNING. |
| 01:36:58 |
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GOOD MORNING TO ALL. I TURNED C-SPAN ON AND YOU KNOW, JUST HA FLIPPED THROUGH THE CHAMS, YOU CAME... |
| 01:37:09 |
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IT'S ANDREW, CORRECT? |
| 01:37:10 |
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ANDREW. EXCUSE ME. YOU'RE THE EDITOR OF THE PRK PRK "NEW REPUBLIC." |
| 01:37:23 |
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NO MY MAIN GIG IS THE WEB SITE, ANDREWSULLIVAN.COM. |
| 01:37:27 |
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WHEN I CAME ON, CORRECT ME IF I'M IN THE MISTAKEN. YOU SAID THAT YOU'RE GAY. |
| 01:37:33 |
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E.. |
| 01:37:35 |
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THAT'S HOMOSEXUAL. |
| 01:37:36 |
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YES. |
| 01:37:38 |
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YOU SAID YOU'RE A |
| 01:37:39 |
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I DID. |
| 01:37:41 |
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THERE'S A LETTER THAT WAS WRITTEN TO THE CHURCH THAT WAS IN ROME A LONG TIME AGO IN THE NEW TESTIFIAMENT,... |
| 01:38:59 |
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I WAS ABOUT TO SAY, HOW MUCH MORE OF THAT ARE WE GOING TO LISTEN TO. |
| 01:39:03 |
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HE'S CITING I THINK ROMANS. WHICH HE'S LEADING UP TO THE CONDEMNATION OF HOE MOW SEXUALITY, OR AT... |
| 01:39:49 |
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HE SAYS THIS BOOK IS THE WORK OF GOD. |
| 01:39:51 |
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I BELIEVE IT'S INSPIRED WITH THE WORD OF GOD. |
| 01:39:54 |
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I LEAVE YOU WITH IT. |
| 01:39:56 |
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I HAVE LIVED WITH IT MY ENTIRE LIFE. |
| 01:39:59 |
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YOU JUST SAID, YOU CAN HAVE YOUR GOD, AND I CAN HAVE MINE. |
| 01:40:01 |
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NO, I CANNOT. |
| 01:40:03 |
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YOUR CONSCIOUS. |
| 01:40:04 |
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IT'S NOT RELIGION. |
| 01:40:06 |
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THE WORD OF GOD OR IT EASE NOT. |
| 01:40:08 |
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NO, NO, NO, CHRISTOPHER. THERE ARE MANY, MANY THEMES IN CHRISTIAN BELIEF AND ONLY ONE OF THEM IS A... |
| 01:40:30 |
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WHAT ARE YOU SAYING IS WHAT IS ESSENTIAL TO YOUR NATURE IS A FILTHY SIN. |
| 01:40:35 |
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LET ME CORRECT YOU. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. THE TEACHING OF THE CHURCH WHICH IS ON THIS MATTER IS NOT... |
| 01:40:42 |
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THE TEACHING IS THE NON-PEDOPHILE. |
| 01:40:44 |
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YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR ANTI-CATHOLIC SLUR ELSEWHERE. |
| 01:40:50 |
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THAT'S NOT ANTI-CATHOLIC. |
| 01:40:52 |
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THE POINT -- I'M NOT DEFENDING THOSE PEOPLE EITHER. |
| 01:40:56 |
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THE CHURCH IS. |
| 01:40:58 |
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THE POINT OF THE CHURCH. I HAVE BEEN HARSH ON THEM AS WELL, LET ME SAY THIS AND MAKE THE POINT, THE... |
| 01:41:15 |
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OF THE LOWEST KIND, IT'S LIKE HATE THE SINNER, LOVE THE SINNER. |
| 01:41:19 |
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I THINK IT IS WHEN YOU REFLECT UPON IT AND READ ABOUT IT AND THINK ABOUT IT IN COHERENT, MY BOOK VERTUALLY... |
| 01:41:27 |
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LET ME SHARE WITH YOU ALSO, THE E-MAILS FROM JOYCE BOYS, CONGRATULATIONS, YOU HAVE REALLY TWO OF THE... |
| 01:42:11 |
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IF YOU WERE GOING TO PICK SOMEBODY IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEAD THE WORLD, NAME... |
| 01:42:16 |
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NO. I WOULDN'T. I DON'T THINK LIKE THAT. I'M NOT A LEADER -- NOT A FOLLOWER. |
| 01:42:22 |
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YOU STILL -- |
| 01:42:24 |
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I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE CITIZENS AND THINK FOR THEMSELVES AND HAVE A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC. |
| 01:42:28 |
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IF YOU WERE TO HAVE A POLITICAL PARTY IN THIS COUNTRY, COULD YOU NAME ONE. |
| 01:42:32 |
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| 01:42:33 |
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DO YOU LIKE RALPH NADER. |
| 01:42:35 |
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I'M FOND OF RALPH NADER. I'M ANED A MEYER OF THE INTEGRITY AND COURAGE OF RALPH NADER. |
| 01:42:47 |
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RALPH NADER WHO IS DISAGREEING WITH THE WAR? |
| 01:42:52 |
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I DISAGREE WITH HIM WITH THE WAR BUT. |
| 01:42:53 |
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EVERYTHING THAT RALPH DOES HAS THE BEST OF MOTIVE MOTIVES, WHY DOES YOUR SKEPTICISM DISAPPEAR. |
| 01:43:02 |
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CORPUS CHRISTI, TEXAS. |
| 01:43:04 |
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CHRIS, THIS IS FOR, AND MR. SULLIVAN, I -- YOU'RE OKAY. |
| 01:43:11 |
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THAT'S ALL I CAN HOPE FOR. |
| 01:43:15 |
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CHRIS, I'VE KIND OF -- I OWNED A SMALL BUSINESS, A COMPUTER STORE, WE WERE KIND OF DRUMMED OUT OF... |
| 01:44:43 |
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KATHLEEN. |
| 01:44:45 |
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WHOSE SISTER KATHLEEN BUSH. |
| 01:44:47 |
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NOT HIS SISTER, BUT HIS RELATIVE. |
| 01:44:50 |
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KATHLEEN BUSH OUT OF CONNECTICUT. AIG. |
| 01:44:53 |
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ONE OF THE |
| 01:44:55 |
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LOOK. IT USED TO MAKE ME LAUGH AND I WOULD COME ON THE SHOW AND ROSS PEROT FANS WOULD CALL IN. THEY... |
| 01:45:55 |
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I THINK THAT IS SOMEWHAT PARANOID, I DO THINK, AND I AGREE THERE'S TOO MUCH IN SOME WAYS CORPORATE... |
| 01:46:52 |
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IN THIS E-MAIL, CHRISTOPHER, YOU ARE ADMIRED BY CONSERVATIVES LIKE ME, BECAUSE ARE YOU ALWAYS INTELLECTUALLY... |
| 01:47:13 |
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OF THE MAINSTREAM, I THINK WILLIAM SAFIRE IS THE ONE THAT I FIND MOST READABLE. AND THE MOST LIT RATE... |
| 01:47:24 |
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MR. SULLIVAN. |
| 01:47:26 |
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IT'S FUNNY, I AGREE WITH CHRISTOPHER. I DON'T THINK HE HAS HAD A TERRIBLY GOOD WAR, SASS IT WHETHER.... |
| 01:47:45 |
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WHO IS THE BEST ON THE LEFT? |
| 01:47:47 |
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CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS. |
| 01:47:50 |
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I'M SAYING BESIDES THE TWO OF YOU. |
| 01:47:52 |
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IF WE CAN'T NOMINATE EACH OVER, THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE A LOVE-FEST. I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK WHOM... |
| 01:48:01 |
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PALM DESERT, CALIFORNIA, YOU'RE ON THE AIR. |
| 01:48:04 |
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I WONDERED WHAT YOU THOUGHT OF THE DEBATES AND I THOUGHT THAT AL GORE ACTED LIKE A BUFFOON AND I CAN'T... |
| 01:48:31 |
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I REMEMBER AFTER THAT FIRST DEBATE GEORGE STEPH NO PLUS COMING ON AS AN UNBIASEDANCE NEWS REPORTER... |
| 01:49:22 |
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THE BEST COLUMNIST FROM THE LEFT IS ADOLF REID. HE ISN'T IN THE MAINSTREAM. |
| 01:49:27 |
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WHERE DO YOU SEE HIM. |
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IN "THE PROGRESSIVE." AND SOMETIMES THE "VILLAGE VOICE." HE HAS WRITTEN A NUMBER OF BOOKS RECENTLY... |
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HE WRITES WELL AND FIERCELY AND FUNNY. |
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I I RECOMMEND HIM. |
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I THINK THE LEFT IS SO INTELLECTUALLY DEAD THAT THERE'S ALMOST NO LIFE AMONG IT. |
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EXCUSE ME, HIS BOOK IS ABOUT W.B.G. VOICE. I DIDN'T MEAN BOOKER WASHINGTON. |
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MR. SULLIVAN, THE HATE THAT YOU HAVE FOR THE LEFT WING PARTY IS SIMPLY TERRIBLE. I'D LIKE TO ALSO... |
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THEY SURE CAN'T BE RIGHT ALL THE TIME, WHICH IS WHY I HOPE FOR SOME INTERLECTUAL REVIVAL ON THE LEFT... |
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I CAN SAY AS SOMEONE WHO WAS REPORTING FROM PAKISTAN AND KNOWS SOME OF THESE PEOPLE AND IS VERY CONCERNED... |
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ALL THE JOURNALISTS ARE FOREIGN JOURNALISTS. |
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I DON'T THINK ANY AMERICANS HAVE BEEN KILLED, AUSTRALIANS AND FRENCH AND ONE ITALIAN. |
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DID YOU FEEL THAT -- NOW THAT WE SEE THE DANNY PEARL STORY. |
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IT MAKES ME WINCE TO THINK THAT HOW EASY THAT ANYONE COULD FALL INTO THE SIMPLE BUT NASTY TRAP, BUT... |
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SOUTH CAROLINA, IN YOUR YEX. |
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S GOOD MORNING, COMPLAINT-SPAN. |
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I LOVE IT IT! |
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IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY THE LEFT IS RESEEDING FASTER THAN HIS HAIRLINE, ALL HAVE YOU TO DO IS LISTEN... |
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IF RESEEDING HAIRLINES IS A SIGN OF ONE'S DEKREP TUD, THEN I'M IN TROUBLE. |
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THE LOVING CHRISTIANS GO ON AND BEGIN WITH A NASTY REMARK AND THEY GO ON TO GET STEW IDER AND STUPIDDER.... |
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CAN YOU HEAR HIM SLIP IN THE COMPLAINT-SPAN. |
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WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? |
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IF YOU HAVE CONTINUED TO THIS NETWORK CONTINUOUSLY FOR 23 YEARS, YOU WOULD THINK THAT AN AWFUL LOT... |
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RIGHT. |
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THAT'S BECAUSE THE NATURE OF THE BEAST. PEOPLE THAT CALL, DON'T CALL. |
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IT'S LIKE LETTERS TO THE EDITOR OR E-MAILS TO THE WEB SITE, THEY'RE ANGRY. |
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IT'S A NOTICEABLE THING, IF PEOPLE WRITE IN TO THE MAGAZINE, IT'S ALMOST AS YOU TO DISAGREE. NOT UNVARIABLY.... |
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MY FAVORITE MOMENT IS A GUY THAT CAME UP TO ME IN THE STREET YOU'RE -- YOU'RE -- YOU'RE OH, I HATE... |
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THAT'S GOOD. |
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I GET THAT ALL THE TIME. BUT I HAVE A LOT OF ANGER AT ME FROM THE GAY COMMUNITY FOR BEING CONSERVATIVE... |
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IF IF ONE DISHES IT OUT, ONE MUST BE PREPARED TO TAKE IT. |
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WHAT'S THE STRANGEST THINGS THAT EVER HAPPENED YOU TO IN A PUBLIC POSITION. |
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YOU GOT ME. I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK. |
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NEVER STRANGE. |
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I HAVEN'T GOT A FAVORITE ANECDOTE ABOUT IT, I'M SORRY. IF I DO, I'LL THINK OF IT ON THE |
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CALL IN. |
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CANS IS CITY, LAST CALL, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. |
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HI THERE, I WAS CALLING TO SAY HOW MUCH I LIKED YOU BOTH. AND ANDREW SULLIVAN,. |
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WHAT A WASTE OF A CALL. |
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OH, IT IS NOT A WASTE OF A CALL. I AGREE WITH YOU ON SO MANY THINGS, I ESPECIALLY AGREE WITH YOU... |
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THANK YOU. |
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WE HAVE THE FINAL FACTS THAT I WILL READ. WOULD YOUR PRESENT GUESTS PLEASE CONSIDER HOSTING SOME SORT... |
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IF GEORGE ORWELL CAN BE COMPARED TO US AS MARTIN LUTHER. I DON'T THINK THAT THE IDEA OF BEING ON TELEVISION... |
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I AGREE. IT SHOULD BE OCCASIONAL. I HAVE NO DESIRE TO BECOME A TEV PERSON. I FIND IT IN SOME WAYS... |
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ANDREW SULLIVAN.COM AND THANK YOU, BOTH, CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS FOR TWO HOURS ON FRIDAY MORNING, FEBRUARY... |
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.
