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AND THE END PRODUCT OF ALL THIS. WHAT HAPPENED AT THENED? WHO WENT TO JAIL? HOW MUCH MONEY WAS INVOLVED... |
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ULTIMATELY, EVERYBODY GOES TO JAIL. SO AS COMPLEX AS THE STORY IS, THIS IS AN F.B.I. SUCCESS STORY.... |
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YOU WERE FROM DALLAS, BEEN WITH "THE NEW YORK TIMES" 16 YEARS. WHAT IS YOUR BEAT AT THE "NEW YORK... |
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I HAVE THE GREATEST JOB IN JOURNALISM. MY BEAT IS VERY UNDEFINED. I'M AN INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER AND... |
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HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU TO WRITE THE BOOK? |
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I STARTED IT IN -- WELL, I BEGAN WORKING ON THE TOPIC ITSELF WHEN I WAS AT "THE TIMES" IN 1995. I... |
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YOU OPEN YOUR PROLONG JUNE 27, 1995, JUST TO GET A SENSE OF THE WAY YOU WRITE IN THE BEGINNING. "THE... |
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WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT ANY SPECIFIC EVENT, THE WAY THE BOOK WAS DONE WAS -- THE FIRST THING YOU DO... |
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WHERE DO YOU GET IT? |
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ANYWHERE YOU CAN. |
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WHERE IS MOST OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU GOT FOR THE BOOK? IS THERE ONE -- IS IT HIT THE F.B.I. BUILDING... |
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THERE IS NO ONE PLACE. |
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WAS ANYBODY TRYING TO DO THIS AT THE SAME TIME YOU STPWHR |
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THERE WAS ANOTHER PERSON THAT WAS WORKING ON A BOOK ABOUT THE CASE. HE WAS FOCUSING MUCH MORE ON ... |
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MARK WHITACRE CAME FROM WHERE? |
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MARK WHITACRE WAS RAISED IN OHIO. HE WENT TO -- GOT HIS DOCTORATE AT CORNELL, A DOCTORATE IN NUTRITION,... |
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HOW OLD IS HE IN THIS TIME PERIOD? |
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20'S, EARLY 30'S. ULTIMATELY, HE IS MEETING WITH A.D.M. TO NEGOTIATE A DEAL WITH DEGUSA. THEY'RE... |
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HE IS AROUND 30, 32 AT THAT POINT. |
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HOW BIG A PART OF THE COMPANY IS IT? |
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ULTIMATELY, IT'S GOING TO BE IN AND OF ITSELFNO CARRIERRINGCONNECT 1200 |
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BUSINESSMEN LIKE THAT HAVE A VALUE ADDED BUSINESS WHERE YOU BRING SOMETHING TO THE TABLE. AND THEY... |
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TODAY HOW OLD IS HE? |
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HE IS 44MENT |
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AND I KNOW YOU VISIT HIM AT THE PRISON. WHAT PRISON IS HE IN? |
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EDGE FIELD CORRECTIONAL FACILITY IN EDGE FIELD, SOUTH CAROLINA. |
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WHAT'S HE LIKE DOWN THERE? |
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IT IS INTERESTING. I'VE SEEN WHITACRE OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. AND VIRTUALLY EVERY YEAR I WOULD... |
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HOW MANY TIMES DID HE TRY TO COMMIT SUICIDE? |
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TWICE, BOTH AFTER THESE EVENTS STARTED TO UNFOLD. |
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WHY DIDN'T HE SUCCEED? |
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WELL, ONE TIME HE DIDN'T SUCCEED BECAUSE HE WAS FOUND BY A GARDENER, A FELLOW THAT WORKED FOR HIM.... |
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RUSTY WILLIAMS? |
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RUSTY WILLIAMS IT. WAS GUY WHO HAD WORKED AT THE WHITT KERR ESTATE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. AND HAD... |
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WHEN WAS TO THE MOST COMPLICATED WHEN IT CAME TO THE WIRES ON MR. WHITT HIT AND THE TAPING, VIDEOTAPING... |
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THE VIDEOTAPING WAS ALWAYS THE MOST DIFFICULT. MOST DAYS, WHITACRE WOULD GO INTO THE OFFICE AND WOE... |
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WHO IS MEETING IN THESE ROOMS? |
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IN THAT MEETING THAT, IS THE ONE IN IRVINE, CALIFORNIA. THE TWO EXECUTIVES ON THE LEFT ARE FROM --... |
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WHO IS NOW IN JAIL? |
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WHO IS NOW IN JAIL. AND TO THE IMMEDIATE RIGHT IS MARK WHITACRE. I THINK CAN YOU SEE HIS BRIEFCASE... |
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RIGHT THAT. RECORDER IS TAPING. HE HAS A RECORDER ON HIS BODY THAT IS TAPING. THE VIDEO IS TAPING.... |
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YES THAT. WAS A BIG PROBLEM. |
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DID THEY VIDEOTAPE ANY MEETINGS OVERSEAS? |
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THEY DID NOT, BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GET THE AUTHORITY. THE F.B.I. CANNOT GO TO TOKYO AND TURN ON A... |
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BECAUSE THEY WERE PROTECTING THE COMPANY? |
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THERE WAS NEVER ANY EXPLANATION GIVEN WHY. THEY MAY HAVE GROWN UNCOMFORTABLE. BECAUSE WHAT THEY DID... |
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ALL ALONG, WHAT IS MARK WHITACRE TRYING TO DO AND WHO IS GIVING HIM INSTRUCTIONS? |
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WELL, THE FIRST QUESTION IS HARDER THAN THE SECOND. WHITACRE IS TRYING TO DO A LOT OF THINGS. IN THE... |
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MICK ANDREAS, VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMPANY AND SENT TO JAIL FOR THREE YEARS OR WHATEVER, HE WOULDN'T... |
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DOES HE HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT? |
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I DON'T THINK SO. |
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WHERE DOES HIS WIFE LIVE? |
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SHE LIVES IN SOUTH CAROLINA. |
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HOW DO THEY AFFORD TO LIVE? |
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SHE WENT BACK TO SCHOOL AND GOT HER TEACHING DEGREE. |
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HOW MANY KIDS DO THEY HAVE? |
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THEY HAVE THREE CHILDREN. ONLY ONE OF WHOM IS STILL SCHOOL AGED. |
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AND SHE IS STICKING WITH HIM |
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ABSOLUTELY. |
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WAS HE SANE WHEN YOU SAW HIM? |
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THAT'S THE INTERESTING THING. HE WAS MORE -- HE CONTINUED TELLING HIS STORIES. I PRESENTED HIM WITH... |
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HE EVEN LIED ON HIS RESUME ABOUT HAVING A MASTER'S DEGREE? |
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THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WENT OUT FROM A.D.M. TO A UNIVERSITY WHEN WHITACRE WAS TPWHAMED TO THE BOARD... |
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THERE'S A LOT OF LITTLE STORIES IN THERE, AS YOU WELL KNOW. |
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YES. |
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I REMEMBER THOSE SCHEMES. NEVER HAD IT PITCHED TO ME, BECAUSE EVERYBODY GOT THAT IN THE MAIL. HOW... |
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WELL, NIGERIA, TO DO THE PROLOGUE FIRST, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF IT WASN'T FOR NIGERIAN CONMEN SITTING... |
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WHAT IS LEMAT? WHAT IS THAT? |
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LAMET VOV. |
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WHEN THIS STORY BEGAN, SHORTLY AFTERWARTS, SHORTLY AFTER THE RAIDS, FAXES BEGAN TO ARRIVE AT THE HOME... |
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OUR AUDIENCE HAS BROUGHT UP ON OCCASION THE BUILDERBURG GROUP COMES UP IN THIS. DAVID ROCKER FELLER... |
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THE BUILDERBERG GROUP, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE FOCUS OF MORE CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAN I WOULD WANT TO... |
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WHO IS CRAVAS? |
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THE CHAIRMAN OF A LEVERAGE BUYOUT COMPANY. THEY BECAME FAMOUS -- THEY WERE THE RUNS THAT BOUGHT R.J.R.... |
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AND ROSS JOHNSON IS ON THE BOARD OF ARCHER DANIELS MIDLAND. |
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AND ROSS JOHNSON WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF R.J.R. NABISCO. A LOT OF THE CHARACTERS REAPPEAR HERE. BUT AT... |
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AS YOU KNOW, WE'LL NEVER GET IT ALL IN AND WE'VE ALMOST TALKED FOR TWO HOURS. WHAT IS THE REACTION... |
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UM, A NUMBER OF REACTIONS. IN DECATUR, I WENT OUT THERE AND THERE WAS A WONDERFUL DISCUSSION I HAD... |
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THERE'S A LOT OF DESCRIPTION IN THE BOOK ABOUT SO AND SO IS DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD LOOKING OUT THE... |
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I NEVER DID PUFFY WHITE CLOUDS. |
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CLOSE TO THAT, AS YOU KNOW. HERE'S A FOOTNOTE I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT AT THE BEGINNING OF CHAPTER FOUR.... |
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I HAD A RESEARCHER WHO KNOWS THOSE PEOPLE VERY WELL AND WOULD I GIVE HIM THE DATES AND TIMES. |
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THAT'S HOW YOU EMBELLISHED ON -- EXCUSE THAT WORD -- |
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THAT'S NOT A GOOD WORD. |
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I KNOW. |
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TALK ABOUT THAT ONE SCENE -- WHEN I DID FOR THAT ONE SCENE IS -- IT STARTED OFF WITH, I FORGET THE... |
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FD504B. |
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YES. THAT SET THE TIME OF WHEN THIS TOOK PLACE. FROM OTHER REPORTING, I KNEW THAT WITHIN A SHORT... |
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HOW MUCH HELP DID YOU HAVE? |
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I HAD -- I HAD THREE RESEARCHERS THAT WORKED FOR ME ONE AT A TIME. THE DEAL I MAKE WITH MY RESEARCHERS... |
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WHY NO INDEX? |
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YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A VERY DEBATED THING. AND ULTIMATELY THE DECISION WAS MADE THAT THIS BOOK WAS WRIT... |
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IS THERE A MOVIE HERE? HAVE YOU SOLD THE WRITES? -- RIGHTS? |
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WE'RE ABOUT TO SIGN A CONTRACT THIS WEEK. |
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DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF HOW SOON THEY WOULD MAKE A MOVIE? IN I SOLD MY LAST BOOK FOR A MOVIE AND... |
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WHAT WAS THAT? |
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"IT WAS ABOUT SERPENTED ON THE ROCK." IT WAS ABOUT THE LARGEST INVESTMENT SCANDAL IN HISTORY. |
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WHERE DO YOU WRITE THIS STUFF? |
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YEAH. |
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BOTH BOOKS WERE IN DIFFERENT PLACES. THE FIRST ONE I WROTE IN MY VERY TINY OFF THE LIVING ROOM OFFICE.... |
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WHAT DO YOU WRITE IT ON? |
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ON A P.C. WELL, AND IT'S INTERESTING, THOUGH, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS I DO. I TALKED EARLIER... |
NOTE: The transcript for this program was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.
