| 00:00:02 | AND I ASKED HER -- I SAID WHEN HAS SENATOR DOLE, THE MAJORITY LEADER, HAD AN OCCASION TO CALL UP THIS BILL? |
| 00:00:10 | WHICH, BY THE WAY, DOES NOT -- THE PRESENT BILL DOESN' T EXPIRE UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30. |
| 00:00:18 | SO WHAT IS THE BIG RUSH? |
| 00:00:22 | NO. IT IS THE HOMOSEXUAL LOBBY IN THIS COUNTRY. |
| 00:00:25 | MY HOMETOWN PAPER SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE WEAK FORCES OF THE HOMOSEXUALS. |
| 00:00:32 | DON' T GIVE ME THAT GARBAGE. |
| 00:00:34 | THEY HAVE GOT ONE OF THE TOUGHEST LOBBYING OUTFITS IN THE COUNTRY. |
| 00:00:39 | AND THEY' LL SAY ANYTHING AND DO ANYTHING AND HAVE DONE IT. |
| 00:00:50 | I WAS INTERESTED IN WHAT " THE NEW YORK TIMES" SAID. |
| 00:00:52 | I WROTE IT DOWN. |
| 00:00:54 | IT SAID " JESSE HELMS WANTS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF FEDERAL MONEY SPENT ON AIDS SUFFER SUFFERERS. |
| 00:01:02 | " YOU UNDERSTAND THE CAREFUL USE OF THE WORD " SUFFERERS. |
| 00:01:06 | " THEY DIDN' T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM CANCER. |
| 00:01:14 | OR FROM HEART DISEASE. |
| 00:01:17 | NO IT IS " SUFFERING. |
| 00:01:18 | " WELL, I DIDN' T MAKE THE STATEMENT. |
| 00:01:20 | BUT I DIDN' T OBJECT TO IT BECAUSE I' VE BEEN PUTTING UP WITH THIS KIND OF TREATMENT FROM " THE NEW YORK TIMES" AND OTHER SELF- APPOINTED GUARDIANS OF THE LIBERAL ESTABLISHMENT FOR 23 YEARS. |
| 00:01:31 | AND I UNDERSTAND POLITICS WHEN I SEE IT. |
| 00:01:36 | THEY HAVE BEEN MAKING AN EFFORT TO GET RID OF THE SENATOR FROM NORTH CAROLINA. |
| 00:01:39 | THEY HAVEN' T DONE IT YET. |
| 00:01:40 | THEY MIGHT DO IT NEXT YEAR. |
| 00:01:43 | IF THEY DO, FINE. |
| 00:01:49 | BUT THEY DIDN' T WORRY ME. |
| 00:01:52 | BUT WHAT DOES WORRY ME IS THE EFFORTS IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE TO RUSH THIS BILL THROUGH, WITH HARDLY ANYBODY KNOWING WHAT IS IN IT. |
| 00:02:06 | THEY TALK ABOUT LITTLE RYAN WHITE. |
| 00:02:11 | AND AN ATTRACTIVE LITTLE BOY, AN INNOCENT LITTLE BOY. |
| 00:02:17 | HE DIED OF AIDS. |
| 00:02:20 | AND NOW HIS NAME IS BEING EXPLOITED, AS IF THE HOMOSEXUALS DIDN' T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE TAINTED BLOOD THAT HE GOT. |
| 00:02:31 | WHERE DOES " THE NEW YORK TIMES" THINK THAT THE TAINTED BLOOD CAME FROM IN THE BEGINNING? |
| 00:02:39 | THAT IS WHAT SENATORS NEED TO CONSIDER BEFORE THEY RUSH PELL- MELL INTO VOTING FOR THIS BILL. |
| 00:02:47 | BUT THEY HAVE GOING TO HAVE AT LEAST FIVE OR SIX AMENDMENTS TO CONSIDER AND TO VOTE ON BEFORE WE GET TO FINAL PASSAGE ON THIS AMENDMENT. |
| 00:03:01 | WHAT THE HOMOSEXUAL LOBBYISTS IN THIS COUNTRY ARE DEMANDING ARE SPECIAL ADVANTAGES OVER EVERYBODY ELSE. |
| 00:03:13 | THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION IS MAKING A MOCKERY OF FAIR PLAY IN KOWTOWING TO THE HOMOSEXUAL DEMANDS AT EVERY TURN. |
| 00:03:27 | NOW, THAT PONDERS ME TO WONDER HOW MANY SENATORS, HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE NEWS MEDIA, FOR THAT MATTER, KNOW ABOUT THE SEMINARS WHICH ARE BEING CONDUCTED THROUGHOUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE BUREAUCRACY, SEMINARS THAT ARE MANDATORY -- YOU ARE PENALIZED IF YOU ARE A FEDERAL EMPLOYEE AND DON' T ATTEND THEM -- AND WHAT ARE THE SEMINARS ALL ABOUT? |
| 00:03:58 | THEY ARE -- THEY ARE DESIGNED TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS JUST ANOTHER LIFESTYLE. |
| 00:04:08 | IT IS COSTING MONEY, FEDERAL MONEY, TAKES PAYERS' MONEY, TO PUT ON THESE MANDATORY SEMINARS SEMINARS. |
| 00:04:15 | BUT I HAVEN' T SEEN A WORD ABOUT IT IN " THE NEW YORK TIMES" OR " THE WASHINGTON POST" OR NOR HAVE I SEEN IT ON CBS, ABC OR NBC OR C. |
| 00:04:31 | THIS N OR THE REST OF THEM. |
| 00:04:32 | NO, THAT IS NOT POLITICALLY CORRECTS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON. |
| 00:04:36 | BEAR IN MIND THAT THE FEDERAL EMPLOYEES DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE ABOUT WHETHER TO ATTEND THESE SEMINARS. |
| 00:04:49 | THEY GO TO THEM OR ELSE. |
| 00:04:51 | AND WE HAD ONE CASE LAST YEAR -- AND I HAD TO INTERVENE -- WHERE A DEDICATED FEDERAL OFFICIAL, STATIONED IN ATLANTA, WAS BOOTED OUT OF HIS JOB BECAUSE HE MADE A STATEMENT SAYING THAT " WE OUGHT TO LOOK FOR THE HIGHER THINGS IN LIFE INSTEAD OF CONCENTRATION ON HOMOSEXUALITY. |
| 00:05:18 | " " AND TEACHING THE FALSE DOCTRINE THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS JUST ANOTHER LIFESTYLE. |
| 00:05:26 | " SURE, I SAID IT WAS A FILTHY, DISGUSTING PRACTICE. |
| 00:05:28 | I SAID IT. |
| 00:05:29 | AND I MEANT IT. |
| 00:05:38 | AND I REPEAT IT TODAY. |
| 00:05:39 | THIS HOMOSEXUAL LOBBY HAS GONE TO INCREDIBLE EXTREMES TO EXPLOIT RYAN WHITE' S NAME AN AN ATTEMPT TO ACQUIRE WHAT APPEARS TO BE AN UNWORKABLE PORTION OF FEDERAL FUNDING FOR AIDS. |
| 00:05:56 | BY THE WAY, MR. |
| 00:05:59 | PRESIDENT, DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE' S NEVER BEEN ANOTHER DISEASE FOR WHICH THERE HAS BEEN A SPECIAL FUND LIKE THIS? |
| 00:06:10 | THIS IS NOT FOR AIDS RESEARCH. |
| 00:06:13 | THIS MONEY IS DISTRIBUTED -- AND A GREAT BUNCH OF IT GOES TO SEXUAL ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE GAY MEN' S HEALTH CRISIS OUT IN CALIFORNIA, THE WHITMAN WALKER CLINIC RIGHT HERE IN WASHINGTON, D. |
| 00:06:28 | C., AND YOU JUST TRY, MR. |
| 00:06:29 | PRESIDENT, TO GET SOME INFORMATION OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. |
| 00:06:34 | THEY STONEWALL. |
| 00:06:35 | THEY DIDN' T WANT ANYBODY TO GET THE FACTS ON HOW THIS MONEY IS DISTRIBUTED. |
| 00:06:42 | NOW, WE ARE GOING INTO ALL OF THIS. |
| 00:06:46 | AND WE' RE GOING INTO IT IN GREAT DETAIL, AT A TIME WHEN IT ARRIVES FOR CONSIDERATION OF THIS BILL AND ACTION UPON IT. |
| 00:06:58 | YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET -- THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE HANDED ON A HOME- FREE BASIS. |
| 00:07:06 | WE ARE GOING TO LAY IT OUT FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE. |
| 00:07:08 | AND THEN IF SENATORS WANT TO VOTE FOR IT, FINE. |
| 00:07:14 | THEY PAY THEIR MONEY AND TAKES THEIR CHOICE, AS THE SAYING GOES. |
| 00:07:19 | BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO BE A QUIET, LITTLE TATATATT, WHEREBY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE ROLLED OUT AGAIN FOR THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER. |
| 00:07:30 | THAT IS ALL I' M GOING TO SAY TODAY, MR. |
| 00:07:33 | PRESIDENT. |
| 00:07:34 | BUT I WANT IT TO BE A MATTER OF RECORD THAT THIS IS NOT A BILL THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT. |
| 00:07:45 | NOR IS IT ONE THAT MANY SENATORS KNOW ABOUT. |
| 00:07:48 | IF THE LORD GIVES ME STRENGTH, THE SENATORS AT LEAST WILL KNOW ABOUT IT BEFORE WE ARE THROUGH. |
| 00:07:55 | I THANK THE CHAIR. |
| 00:08:02 | AND I YIELD THE FLOOR. |
| 00:08:03 | THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL. |
| 00:12:31 | A SENATOR: MR. |
| 00:12:34 | PRESIDENT, I ASK THAT THE QUORUM CALL BE RESCINDED. |
| 00:12:36 | THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. |
| 00:12:37 | MR. |
| 00:12:38 | DOLE: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THERE NOW BE A PERIOD FOR THE TRANSACTION OF ROUTINE MORNING BUSINESS WITH SENATORS PERMITTED TO SPEAK FOR UP TO FIVE MINUTES EACH. |
| 00:12:46 | THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. |
| 00:13:04 | MR. |
| 00:13:05 | DOLE: MR. |
| 00:13:06 | PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE MAJORITY LEADER. |
| 00:13:08 | MR. |
| 00:13:09 | DOLE: TWO DAYS AGO PRESIDENT CLINTON CALLED AND ASKED THAT WE DELAY THE VOTE ON THE DOLE- LIEBERMAN LEGISLATION UNTIL AFTER A MEETING WHICH ENDED JUST A SHORT WHILE AGO. |
| 00:13:19 | AND WE AGREED WITH THE PRESIDENT' S REQUEST. |
| 00:13:22 | BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, IT SEEMS THE LONDON MEETING WAS A DISAPPOINTMENT. |
| 00:13:27 | ANOTHER DAZZLING DISPLAY OF DUCKING THE PROBLEM. |
| 00:13:32 | INSTEAD OF CLARITY AND DECISIVENESS, ONCE AGAIN WE HAVE AMBIGUITY AND THE LOWEST- COMMON- DENOMINATOR APPROACH. |
| 00:13:41 | INSTEAD OF DUFRPBLG THE DUAL- KEY, IT HAS BEEN MODIFIED. |
| 00:13:48 | THESE TWO EASTERN ENCLAVES HAVE BEEN WRITTEN OFF. |
| 00:13:50 | THE LONDON MEETING REPRESENTED A FAILS U. |
| 00:13:52 | N. OPERATING. |
| 00:13:53 | IN THE WAKE OF THE FALL OF ZEPA, IT IS HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE FOR ANYONE TO BELIEVE THAT THE U. |
| 00:14:01 | N. MISSION IS VIABLE. |
| 00:14:03 | WE ARE WITNESSING A COLLECTIVE CATASTROPHE. |
| 00:14:05 | YESTERDAY THE BOSNIAN PRESIDENCY BUILDING WAS SHELLED WHILE THE EUROPEAN ENVOY WAS MEETING WITH THE BOSNIAN PRESIDENT. |
| 00:14:13 | IF ATTACKS ON SARAJEVO CONTINUE, WHAT WILL BE THE WEST RESPONSE? |
| 00:14:17 | ANOTHER MEETING? |
| 00:14:18 | ACCORDING TO SECRETARY CHRISTOPHER, THE FOCUS OF U. |
| 00:14:22 | S. EFFORTS WILL BE ACCESS TO THE CITY FOR HUMANITARIAN AID. |
| 00:14:26 | YES, THE BOSNIAN PEOPLE NEED FOOD BUT THEY ALSO NEED PROTECTION. |
| 00:14:32 | THE LONDON MEETING PRODUCED A DECISION TO DEFEND GORAZDE THROUGH A " SUBSTANTIAL RESPONSE AFTER A SERIOUS WARNING IS GIVEN TO THE SERBS. |
| 00:14:41 | " GRASS DID HE IS ALREADY UNDER ATTACK. |
| 00:14:42 | HOW MUCH FURTHER DO THE BOSNIAN SERBS HAVE TO GO BEFORE THE WARNING IS TRIGGERED? |
| 00:14:47 | THE SERBS ARE BECOMING MORE AGGRESSIVE AND MORE DEFIANT BY THE HOUR. |
| 00:14:51 | BUT THE LONDON MEETING MADE IT CLEAR THERE WOULD BE NO IMMEDIATE OR DESIFE SEIVE RESPONSE EXCEPT MORE FEETINGS. |
| 00:15:01 | IN EFFECT, WHAT THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION IS DOING IS TRYING TO MANAGE THE CONFLICT. |
| 00:15:06 | WHERE, AS THE BOSNIAN PRIME MINISTER SAID WITHOUT DEALING WITH THE REAL PROBLEM, WHICH IS BELGRADE' S- SPONSORED AGGRESSION. |
| 00:15:14 | WESTERN LEADERS IN LONDON ALSO CALLED FOR A CEASE- FIRE AND MORE NEGOTIATIONS. |
| 00:15:18 | IT' S BEEN ONE YEAR SINCE THE BOSNIAN GOVERNMENT SIGNED THE SO- CALLED CONTACT GROUP' S PLAN. |
| 00:15:23 | WHY SHOULD THE SERBS SIGN NOW AFTER YET ANOTHER DISPLAY OF FECKLESSNESS? |
| 00:15:28 | IT IS CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT THE LONDON MEETING DID NOT PRODUCE A SOLUTION. |
| 00:15:32 | IT DID NOT RESULT IN A POLICY. |
| 00:15:34 | AND I BELIEVE THAT THE SENATE WILL NOT BE FOOLED BY THE ADMINISTRATION' S SPIN DOCTORS THAT WILL NO DOUBT ANNOUNCE GREAT RESULTS FROM THE LONDON MEETING. |
| 00:15:41 | I BELIEVE THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL MAJORITY IN FAVOR OF THE DOLE- LIEBERMAN LEGISLATION AND THAT THE DISAPPOINTING OUTCOME OF THE LONDON MEETING WILL ONLY SERVE TO STRENGTHEN THAT SUPPORT. |
| 00:15:50 | ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE DOLE- LIEBERMAN LEGISLATION LIFTS THE U. |
| 00:15:57 | S. EMBARGO AFTER UNPROFOR WITHDRAWS. |
| 00:15:59 | IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS POINT IS BEING IGNORED AND OBFUSCATED BY THOSE ALLIED ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS WHO CLAIM THAT THE DOLE- LIEBERMAN LEGISLATION, IF PASSED, WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A U. |
| 00:16:12 | N. PULLOUT. IT DOESN' T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL THEY ARE OUT, SO WE' RE NOT GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A PULLOUT. |
| 00:16:16 | NO DOUBT THIS IS A POLITICAL TACTIC DESIGNED TO FIND HE IS EXCUSES FOR WHAT IS IN THE INEVITABLE END OF THE U. |
| 00:16:22 | N. MISSION IN BOSNIA. IT MAY NOT BE TODAY. |
| 00:16:24 | IT MAY NOT BE TOMORROW. |
| 00:16:26 | BUT THIS OPERATION WILL END AS A CONSEQUENCE OF ITS OWN FAILED POLICY. |
| 00:16:31 | IF ONLY ADMINISTRATION ALLIED OFFICIALS WOULD SPEND AS MUCH TIME DESIGNING A NEW POLICY AS THEY DO DESIGNING NEW EXCUSES FOR THE INABILITY TO DEVELOP A PRINCIPLED POLICY, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE PASSAGE OF THE DOLE- LIEBERMAN AMENDMENT, OR BILL, MAY BE AN EXCUSE FOR U. |
| 00:16:47 | N. WITHDRAWAL BUT WILL NOT BE A CAUSE. |
| 00:16:50 | IT WILL NOT BE THE CAUSE. |
| 00:16:55 | THE DIRE ADMINISTRATION PREDICTIONS OF HUMANITARIAN DISASTERS HAVE COME YOU TRUE BUT NOT BECAUSE OF LIFTING THE EMBARGO. |
| 00:17:01 | BUT BECAUSE OF A LACK OF AMERICAN LEADERSHIP AND A WILLINGNESS TO GO ALONG WITH FAILURES. |
| 00:17:06 | DESPITE THE ASSERTIONS MADE BY ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS THAT THEY HAVE THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE BOSNIANS AT HEART, THE PRESENT APPROACH IS NOT HUMANITARIAN. |
| 00:17:15 | IT IS HUMANE. |
| 00:17:16 | FIRST, THE BOSNIANS WERE KOR RALD INTO GIANT REFUGEE CAMPS, THEN DISARMED AND THEN LEFT UNPROTECTED. |
| 00:17:22 | WITH RESPECT TO THE ASSERTION THAT THIS LEGISLATION WOULD GIVE THE BOSNIAN PRESIDENT THE RIGHT TO SEND 25, 000 U. |
| 00:17:30 | S. TROOPS TO BOSNIA, I WOULD MAKE THREE POINTS. |
| 00:17:32 | THE COMMITMENT TO SEND 25, 000 U. |
| 00:17:36 | S. TROOPS TO BOSNIA TO POLICE A SETTLEMENT IS A COMMITMENT MADE BY PRESIDENT CLINTON AND NOT PURSUANT TO ANY REQUESTS BY THE BOSNIAN GOVERNMENT OR THE RESULT OF ANY CONGRESSIONAL ACTION. |
| 00:17:47 | SECOND, THE DAYS OF COLONIALISM ARE OVER. |
| 00:17:51 | THE BOSNIAN GOVERNMENT IS A SOVEREIGN GOVERNMENT AND HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL THE BRITISH AND THE FRENCH AND THE DUTCH AND OTHER FORCES IF AND WHEN IT WANTS THEM TO LEAVE. |
| 00:18:00 | IT IS THEIR COUNTRY. |
| 00:18:01 | NUMBER THREE, PRESIDENT CLINTON HAS YET TO MAKE HIS CASE TO THE CONGRESS THAT 25, 000 TROOPS ARE NEEDED FOR SUCH A WITHDRAWAL. |
| 00:18:08 | LET US NOTED FORGET THAT THE DUTCH TROOPS IN SREBRENICA NEGOTIATED THEIR DEPARTURE WITH THE SERBS. |
| 00:18:14 | THEY WERE NOT RESCUED BY THE U. |
| 00:18:17 | S. MARINES. LET ME ALSO INDICATE, AS I WAS TOLD BY THE FOREIGN MINISTER JUST A FEW DAYS AGO, HE SAID THERE WERE ABOUT ONLY 30 U. |
| 00:18:26 | N. PERSONNEL IN SERBIAN- HELD TERRITORY. |
| 00:18:27 | SOMEBODY SAID THAT FIGURE IS MUCH HIGHER -- MAYBE 500, MAYBE 600. |
| 00:18:31 | AGAIN, IT WOULD NOT TAKE 25, 000 AMERICAN TROOPS TO RESCUE 30 OR 500 OR 1, 000 U. |
| 00:18:39 | N. PERSONNEL. AND WE' VE BEEN ASSURED BY THE MUSLIMS THAT THEY WOULD IN NO WAY INTERFERE WITH THE WITHDRAWAL. |
| 00:18:45 | BUT, FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SAIT BELATED NATO RESPONSE TO THE BRUTAL SERB ONSLAUGHT IN THE ENCLAVES IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR POLICY. |
| 00:18:54 | IN OTHER WORDS, WRITE OFF, WHATEVER IT TAKES, GO TO GORAZDE. |
| 00:18:58 | WE' RE GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. |
| 00:18:59 | WE' RE GOING TO DRAW THE LINE. |
| 00:19:00 | AGAIN, I THINK THE OPERATION IS A FAILURE AND NO AMOUNT OF RESHUFFLING IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT FACT. |
| 00:19:07 | NO MORE BAND- AIDS. |
| 00:19:09 | NO MORE RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGERY. |
| 00:19:10 | WE' LL SAVE THE U. |
| 00:19:12 | N. OPERATION IN BOSNIA. |
| 00:19:15 | LIFTING THE ARMS EMBARGO AND LETTING THE BOSNIANS DEFEND THEMSELVES IS THE ONLY POLICY OPTION WHICH HAS ANY HOPE OF SAVING THEM AND SAVING U. |
| 00:19:23 | S. CREDIBILITY. I MIGHT POINT OUT AS AN ASIDE, " THE NEW YORK TIMES," WHICH HAS BEEN STRUGGLING WITH THIS ISSUE EDITORIALLY AS MANY OF US HAVE HERE ON THE FLOOR TODAY -- AND MAYBE THAT WILL BE REFERRED TO BY MY COLLEAGUE FROM CONNECTICUT -- SAID RATHER FLATLY IT' S TIME TO LIFT THE EMBARGO. |
| 00:19:41 | IT IS TIME TO LIFT THE ARMS EMBARGO. |
| 00:19:43 | IF WE DON' T WANT TO AMERICANIZE WHAT' S HAPPENING HERE AND WE WANT TO GIVE THIS INDEPENDENT NATION A RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF, THEN THE COURSE IS CLEAR. |
| 00:19:53 | LIFT THE ARMS EMBARGO. |
| 00:19:55 | AFTER WITHDRAWAL OF THE U. |
| 00:19:58 | N. FORCES. AND THEN WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN SUPPLY THE MUSLIMS WITH WEAPONS. |
| 00:20:03 | THEY CAN BE TRAINED IN SAFE PLACES WITH NO HAZARD TO ANYBODY IN THE UNITED STATES OR ANY UNITED STATES FORCE WHO MIGHT BE INVOLVED IN ANY WEAPON TRAINING OR WHATEVER. |
| 00:20:15 | AND WE BELIEVE THIS IS NOT THE BEST SOLUTION. |
| 00:20:19 | THERE AREN' T ANY GOOD SOLUTIONS. |
| 00:20:20 | BUT IT GIVES AN INDEPENDENT NATION A RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF AND GIVES THE PEOPLE IN THAT NATION A RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. |
| 00:20:27 | AND, IN MY VIEW, SOONER OR LATER IT' S GOING TO HAPPEN. |
| 00:20:30 | MAYBE NOT THIS WEEK, MAYBE NOT NEXT WEEK, MAYBE NOT NEXT MONTH. |
| 00:20:34 | BUT WINTER IS COMING VERY SOON IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD. |
| 00:20:38 | AND I BELIEVE BEFORE THAT HAPPENS, U. |
| 00:20:42 | N. FORCES WILL BE WITHDRAWN OR ON THE WAY OUT OF BOSNIA. |
| 00:20:46 | AND THEN PERHAPS THE BOSNIANS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO WHAT THEY' VE WANTED TO DO FOR SOMETIME. |
| 00:20:51 | AND I DON' T MEAN TO DISMISS THE HUMANITARIAN AID THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED. |
| 00:20:54 | IT HAS BEEN HELPFUL IN SOME CASES. |
| 00:20:56 | BUT I BELIEVE UNINTENTIONALLY THE U. |
| 00:20:58 | N. PROTECTIVE FORCES HAVE BECOME A BARRIER WHICH UNINTENTIONALLY HAS BEEN A HELP TO THE SERB AGGRESSORS AND NOT THE POOR PEOPLE WHO ARE TRAPPED IN THE ENCLAVES. |
| 00:21:10 | SO FAR ONE HAS FALLEN. |
| 00:21:12 | ANOTHER IS ABOUT TO FALL. |
| 00:21:14 | AND NEARLY EVERY OTHER ONE IS IN DANGER. |
| 00:21:15 | I' D ASK THAT MY ENTIRE STATEMENT BE MADE A PART OF THE RECORD. |
| 00:21:20 | THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. |
| 00:21:27 | MR. |
| 00:21:28 | DOLE: I' D LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE OF UNANIMOUS CONSENT REQUESTS AND NOT INTERFERE WITH OUR DIALOGUE HERE ON BOSNIA. |
| 00:21:34 | MR. |
| 00:21:36 | PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT S. |
| 00:21:38 | 10 -- S. 101 BE DIVIDED AND RENUMBERED WITH TEXT I NOW SEND TO THE DESK, THAT THEY BE PLACED ON THE CALENDAR AND ALL OTHER PROVISIONS OF EXISTING CONSENT AGREEMENT GOVERNING THE CONSIDERATION OF S. |
| 00:21:51 | 10 R 101 APPLY TO THESE TWO BILLS. |
| 00:21:53 | THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. |
| 00:21:54 | MR. DOLE: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE SENATE PROCEED TO THE IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION OF CALENDAR NUMBER 131, S. |
| 00:22:03 | J. RES. 27. THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE CLERK WILL REPORT. |
| 00:22:07 | THE CLERK: CALENDAR NUMBER 131, SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION 27, TO GRANT THE CONSENT OF THE CONGRESS TO CERTAIN ADDITIONAL POWERS CONFERRED UPON THE BI- STATE DEVELOPMENT AGENCY BY THE STATES OF MISSOURI AND ILLINOIS. |
| 00:22:20 | MR. DOLE: I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE RESOLUTION BE CONSIDERED AND AGREED TO, THE PREAMBLE BE AGREED TO, THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER BE LAID UPON THE TABLE, THAT ANY STATEMENTS RELATING TO THE RESOLUTION APPEAR AT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE IN THE RECORD. |
| 00:22:31 | THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. |
| 00:22:33 | MR. |
| 00:22:34 | DOLE: MR. |
| 00:22:35 | PRESIDENT, I ASK UNANIMOUS CONSENT WHEN THE SENATE COMPLETES ITS BUSINESS TODAY IT STAND IN RECESS UNTIL THE HOUR OF 9: 00 A. |
| 00:22:42 | M. ON MONDAY, JULY 24- RBGS 1995; THAT FOLLOWING THE PRAYER, THE JOURNAL OF PROCEEDINGS BE APPROVED TO DATE, THE TIME FOR TWOOT LEADERS BE RESERVED FOR THEIR USE LATER IN THE DAY AND THE SENATE IMMEDIATELY BEGIN CONSIDERATION OF S. |
| 00:22:53 | 101, THE GIFT BAN LOBBYING BILL UNDER THE TERMS OF THE CONSENT ORDER OF JUNE 9. |
| 00:23:00 | THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. |
| 00:23:08 | MR. |
| 00:23:09 | DOLE: I WOULD JUST SAY, FOR THE INFORMATION OF ALL SENATORS, UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER, THE SENATE WILL BEGIN CONSIDERATION OF GIFT BAN LOBBYING BILL ON MONDAY MORNING. |
| 00:23:17 | WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO REACH AN AGREEMENT ON BOTH OF THESE MEASURES THAT WILL ALLOW US TO COMPLETE ACTION ON THE LEGISLATION ON MONDAY. |
| 00:23:24 | ROLL CALL VOTES, IF THEY ARE TO OCCUR, WILL NOT OCCUR BEFORE 5: 00 P. |
| 00:23:29 | M. ON MONDAY, SO THERE WILL BE NO ROLL CALL VOTES BEFORE 5: 00 P. |
| 00:23:32 | M. I CAN' T SAY WITH CERTAINTY, BUT I WOULD BE FAIRLY CERTAIN THERE WILL BE ROLL CALL VOTES AFTER 5: 00 P. |
| 00:23:40 | M. EITHER ON FINAL PASSAGE OR ON AMENDMENTS. |
| 00:23:42 | AND I JUST SAY THAT IF THERE IS NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE SENATE, I ASK THAT THE SENATE STAND IN RECESS UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDER FOLLOWING THE REMARKS OF THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM CONNECTICUT, SENATOR LIEBERMAN, AND THE DISTINGUISHED SENATOR FROM SOUTH DAKOTA, SENATOR PRESSLER. |
| 00:23:58 | THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. |
| 00:23:59 | MR. |
| 00:24:00 | LIEBERMAN: MR. PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM CONNECTICUT. |
| 00:24:02 | MR. LIEBERMAN: I THANK THE CHAIR, AND I THANK THE DISTINGUISHED SENATE MAJORITY LEADER BOTH FOR YIELDING THE FLOOR AND FOR HIS STATEMENT ON THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS FROM LONDON WITH REGARD TO THE CRISIS IN BOSNIA. |
| 00:24:16 | MR. |
| 00:24:17 | PRESIDENT, I SHARE THE SENSE OF DISAPPOINTMENT THAT THE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER HAS EXPRESSED ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENTS IN LONDON TODAY. |
| 00:24:28 | THE STATEMENT FROM THE LONDON CONFERENCE IS A THREAT, NOT A POLICY -- AND A LIMITED THREAT AT THAT, EXTENDING, AS IT DOES, TO ONLY ONE OF THE FOUR SAFE AREAS DESIGNATED SAFE AREAS BY THE UNITED NATIONS. |
| 00:24:44 | WHY THE CONFEREES WOULD FEEL THAT IT WAS CRITICAL ENOUGH TO ISSUE THIS THREAT WRAD TO GORAZDE BUT NOT WITH REGARD TO TUZLA, SAR YEA I DON' T SEE -- SARAJEVO AND BIHAC, I DON' T KNOW. |
| 00:25:03 | WHY THE CONFEREES DID NOT SPEAK CLEARLY AND IN A UNITED FASHION ABOUT OPENING UP THE SUPPLY ROAD FOR HUMANITARIAN AID TO SARAJEVO ALONG THE MOUNT IGNUR ROAD, I DON' T KNOW. |
| 00:25:19 | AND WHY THERE IS NOT CLARITY ON THE QUESTION OF THE DUAL- KEY ARRANGEMENT, WHICH HAS DONE NOTHING BUT FRUSTRATE THE RARE OCCASIONS WHEN THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME WILL TO RESPOND TO SERBIAN AGGRESSION BY SUBJECTING THE DESIRE OF MILITARY COMMANDERS TO THE CONTROL OF POLITICAL AUTHORITIES FROM THE UNITED NATIONS. |
| 00:25:41 | THERE IS SOME SUGGESTION THAT THERE IS STILL A DUAL- KEY APPROACH FOR THIS -- FOR IMPLEMENTING THIS THREAT THAT WAS ISSUED TODAY ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE SERBS IF THEY ATTACKED GORAZDE. |
| 00:25:55 | IT IS -- THERE IS SOME INDICATION, THOUGH NOT CLARITY, THAT PERHAPS THE MILITARY COMMANDERS ON THE GROUND -- THE U. |
| 00:26:03 | N. MILITARY COMMANDERS -- WILL BE THE ONES TO HAVE THE FINAL SAY. |
| 00:26:06 | IT WILL NOT BE BOUNCED UP FOR A VETO FROM THE UNITED NATIONS POLITICIANS AT THE TOP. |
| 00:26:11 | BUT THAT IS NOT CLEAR TO ME. |
| 00:26:12 | AND, THEREFORE, IS ALSO GROUND FOR DISAPPOINTMENT IN THE COMMUNIQUE FROM THE LONDON CONFERENCE. |
| 00:26:17 | SO, I WOULD CALL THE COMMUNIQUE FROM THE LONDON CONFERENCE A THREAT, NOT A POLICY, AND A LIMITED THREAT AT THAT. |
| 00:26:28 | IF IN FACT THE THREAT IS CARRIED OUT, AS SO MANY THREATS AGAINST THE SERBS BEFORE IN THIS WAR HAVE NOT BEEN CARRIED OUT, IF THIS THREAT IS CARRIED OUT, IF THE SERBS TAKE AGGRESSIVE ACTION, ATTACK GORAZDE, THEN AT LEAST IT WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF AN IMPLEMENTATION OF HALF OF THE POLICY THAT MANY OF US -- I' M HONORED TO SAY THE DISTINGUISHED SENATE MAJORITY LEADER AND MYSELF AND MANY OTHERS FROM BOTH PARTIES IN THIS CHAMBER HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING, APPEALING, CRYING OUT FOR FOR NOW THREE YEARS, WHICH IS THE LIFT- AND- STRIKE POLICY. |
| 00:27:15 | BECAUSE THE COMMUNIQUE DOES AT LAST SUGGEST THAT IF THE SERBS CROSS THIS LINE, WHICH IS A NARROW LINE -- IT' S NOT A BROADLY DRAWN LINE, IT' S A LINE OF PROTECTION ONLY AROUND GORAZDE -- THEN THEY WILL FINAL BE SUBJECTED TO THE SUBSTANTIAL AND DECISIVE NATO AIR POWER WHICH WE HAVE SUGGESTED THROUGHOUT THIS CONFLICT AND REFUSE TO USE, EVEN THOUGH GOING BACK TWO, THREE YEARS AT HEARINGS OF THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE, ON WHICH I' M HONORED TO SERVE, WHEN ASKING THE CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE AIR FORCE WHETHER HE FELT THAT THESE RAIDS COULD BE CARRIED OUT FROM THE AIR WITH MINIMAL RISK TO AMERICAN PERSONNEL AND MAXIMAL PROBABILITY OF SUCCESS, HE SAID YES. |
| 00:28:06 | SO, FROM THIS COMMUNIQUE FROM LONDON, IMPLEMENTING, IF THE THREAT IS CARRIED THROUGH, AT LEAST THE BEGINNING OF ONE- HALF OF THE LIFT- AND- STRIKE POLICY, I TAKE SOME SMALL HOPE AND FIND SOME SMALL REASON FOR THE BOSNIAN PEOPLE, WHO ARE UNDERSTANDABLY CYNICAL AND UNBELIEVING TO THINK THAT PERHAPS THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY WILL FINALLY LIFT A FINGER, A HAND TO PROTECT THEM FROM AGGRESSION. |
| 00:28:42 | BUT, MR. |
| 00:28:43 | PRESIDENT, THIS THREAT, EVEN IF CARRIED THROUGH ON BY THE ALLIED POWERS, DOES NOTHING TO LESSEN THE MORAL AND STRATEGIC IMPERATIVE TO LIFT THE ARMS EMBARGO IMPOSED ON THE NATIONS OF THE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA. |
| 00:29:02 | IT IS ILLEGAL BECAUSE IT DENIES THE PEOPLE OF BOSNIA THE RIGHT THEY ARE GIVEN UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW, UNDER THE CHARTER OF THE UNITED NATIONS, TO DEFEND THEMSELVES -- A BASIC RIGHT THAT WE HAVE AS INDIVIDUALS AND THAT NATIONS HAVE UNDER THE UNITED NATIONS CHARTER. |
| 00:29:21 | AND THIS RIGHT HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM NOT BY ANY GREAT ACT OF INTERNATIONAL LAW, BUT BY A POLITICAL ACT, BY A DECISION OF THE UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL IN 1991, LOOKING BACK AT IT, A NAIVE, IN SOME SENSES, CYNICAL DECISION OR MOTIVATED BY CYNICAL BEHAVIOR, AN EMBARGO REQUESTED BY THE GOVERNMENT OF YUGOSLAVIA AND BELGRADE -- NOW THE SERBIAN GOVERNMENT -- UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN YUGOSLAVIA BROKE, AS IT SURELY WOULD, AND SERBIA BEGAN ITS AGGRESSION, AS IT CLEARLY INTENDED TO, AGAINST ITS NEIGHBORS, THEN THE EFFECT OF THE EMBARGO WOULD LEAVE EVERYONE IN THAT REGION BUT THE SERBS WITHOUT THE ARMS WITH WHICH TO FIGHT. |
| 00:30:09 | BECAUSE THE SERBS IN SERBIA, BY AN ACCIDENT OF HISTORY OR FATE, ENDED UP CONTROLLING THE WAR- MAKING CAPACITY OF THE FORMER YUGOSLAVIA. |
| 00:30:22 | MR. |
| 00:30:23 | PRESIDENT, SKI FOR TWO MORE MINUTES? |
| 00:30:25 | THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. |
| 00:30:27 | MR. LIEBERMAN: I SAY THE EMBARGO IS IMMORAL BECAUSE WE HAVE WATCHED NOT ONLY AGGRESSION AND THE FRUSTRATION OF A PEOPLE TO HAVE THE MEANS WITH WHICH TO FIGHT BACK -- VICTIMS -- BUT WE HAVE WATCHED GENOCIDEAL ACTS. |
| 00:30:42 | WE HAVE WATCHED PEOPLE SINGLED OUT BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIGION IN THIS CASE MUSLIMS. |
| 00:30:50 | TORN FROM THEIR HOMES, HERDED INTO CONCENTRATION CAMPS. |
| 00:30:53 | WOMEN RAPED SYSTEMATICALLY AS AN ACT OF WAR. |
| 00:30:57 | UNHEARD OF. MEN -- AGAIN, IT' S HAPPENING BETWEEN THE AIJTS OF 15 AND 5 5, HEARDED OFF FOR INVESTIGATIONS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY ARE CRIMINALS OR TERRORISTS AND TORTURED. |
| 00:31:08 | WE SAW THIS YEARS AGO, CONCENTRATION CAMPS, EMACIATED FIGURES. |
| 00:31:14 | SO, I SAY, MR. PRESIDENT, TO MY COLLEAGUES HERE IN THE SENATE THAT THE MORAL AND STRATEGIC IMPERATIVE TO LIFT THE ARMS EMBARGO REMAINS UN UNDIMINISHED BY THIS THREAT, LIMITED THREAT, NOT A POLICY, THAT IS ISSUED FROM LONDON TODAY. |
| 00:31:29 | AND I HOPE AND STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT WHEN WE TAKE UP THE PROPOSAL SENATOR DOLE AND I AND MANY OTHERS OF BOTH PARTIES HAVE INTRODUCED ON TUESDAY TO LIFT THE ARMS EMBARGO THAT THE RESULT WILL BE A RESOUNDING NONPOLITICAL, NONPARTISAN, OVERWHELMING MAJORITY IN FAVOR OF LIFTING THE EMBARGO, GIVING THE PEOPLE OF BOSNIA THE WEAPONS WITH WHICH TO DEFEND THEMSELVES AND CREATING FINALLY THE BASIS OF A GENUINE POLICY THAT CAN IMPOSE UPON THE SERBS SOME PAIN FOR THEIR AGGRESSION, THAT WILL GIVE THEM FINALLY AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THIS CONFLICT A REASON TO COME TO THE PEACE TABLE TO NEGOTIATE A JUST END TO THIS CONFLICT. |
| 00:32:17 | I THANK THE CHAIR AND I YIELD THE FLOOR. |
| 00:32:21 | MR. |
| 00:32:22 | PRESSLER: MR. |
| 00:32:23 | PRESIDENT? THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATOR FROM SOUTH DAKOTA. |
| 00:32:24 | MR. |
| 00:32:27 | PRESSLER: MR. |
| 00:32:28 | PRESIDENT, I AM CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC THAT LAST NIGHT IN LOS ANGELES PROGRESS WAS MADE IN THE U. |
| 00:32:36 | S.- JAPAN AVIATION DISPUTE WITH REGARD TO CARGO. |
| 00:32:38 | FINALLY THE GOVERNMENT OF JAPAN HAS AGREED TO HONOR THE CLEAR TERMS OF THE 1952 U. |
| 00:32:45 | S.- JAPAN BILATERAL AVIATION AGREEMENT. |
| 00:32:47 | FEDERAL EXPRESS HAS BEEN UNFAIRLY DENIED THE RIGHT TO SERVE NUMEROUS ASIAN CITIES BEYOND JAPAN. |
| 00:32:53 | NOW THAT THE JAPANESE HAVE AUTHORIZED THESE ROUTES, FEDERAL EXPRESS CAN OPEN ITS NEW PACIFIC RIM CARGO HUB AT SUBIC BAY IN THE PHILIPPINES. |
| 00:33:03 | I' M ALSO PLEASED WITH THE JOB DONE BY SECRETARY PEEN I CAN' T IN THIS DISPUTE. |
| 00:33:07 | THE JAPANESE CLEARLY EXPECTED US TO TRADE OFF EXISTING AVIATION RIGHTS IN ORDER TO GET THEM TO ACKNOWLEDGE RIGHTS WE ALREADY HAD GUARANTEED UNDER THE TERMS OF THE U. |
| 00:33:18 | S.- JAPAN AVIATION AGREEMENT. |
| 00:33:19 | WE DID NOT CAVE INTO THIS BLACKMAIL. |
| 00:33:21 | HAD WE DONE SO, IT WOULD HAVE SET A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT FOR ALL U. |
| 00:33:25 | S. INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS. GLOBAL AVIATION OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR CARRIERS ARE CRITICAL TO LONG- TERM PROFITABILITY OF THE U. |
| 00:33:33 | S. AIR AIRLINE INDUSTRY. |
| 00:33:34 | SECRETARY PENA UNDERSTANDS THIS VERY IMPORTANT POINT. |
| 00:33:37 | MR. |
| 00:33:40 | PRESIDENT, YESTERDAY I, ALONG WITH 20 CLEESHUN FROM -- COLLEAGUES, INTRODUCED A RESOLUTION CALLING ON THE GOVERNMENT OF JAPAN TO HONOR THE TERMS OF THE U. |
| 00:33:47 | S.- JAPAN BILATERAL AVIATION AGREEMENT. |
| 00:33:49 | I HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING THE RESOLUTION OVER A PERIOD OF SEVERAL WEEKS, AND I UNDERSTAND THE GOVERNMENT OF JAPAN WAS MONITORING IT CLOSELY. |
| 00:33:57 | I BELIEVE THE RESOLUTION, S. |
| 00:34:00 | RES. |
| 00:34:01 | 155, SENDS A STRONG SIGNAL TO THE JAPANESE THAT THE UNITED STATES SENATE EXPECTS INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS TO BE HONORED. |
| 00:34:06 | WE SHOULD EXPECT NOTHING LESS WHEN A SOLEMN INTERNATIONAL GLEAMT IS IN DISPUTE. |
| 00:34:10 | IN MY INTRODUCTORY REMARKS YESTERDAY I EXPRESSED DISAPPOINTMENT AT THE SHOW CAUSE ORDER THE U. |
| 00:34:19 | S. ISSUED TO THE JAPANESE HAD NOT SEEFMD TO SERVE AS A WAKEUP CALL TO THE GOVERNMENT OF JAPAN. |
| 00:34:23 | IT WAS MY HOPE THAT BY INTRODUCING S. |
| 00:34:26 | RES. 1555, IT WOULD DRIVE HOME THE POINT THAT INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS ARE NOT TO BE UNILATERALLY DISREGARDED. |
| 00:34:33 | I HOPE S. |
| 00:34:34 | RES. 155 PLAYED A ROLE IN RESOLVING THIS DISPUTE. |
| 00:34:36 | LET ME SAY TO THE COSPONSORS OF THAT RESOLUTION THAT WE STILL MAY BRING IT TO THE FLOOR. |
| 00:34:42 | IT IS ON THE FLOOR, IN FACT. |
| 00:34:43 | WE STILL MAY SEEK TO PASS IT BECAUSE IT ALSO ADDRESSES THE PASSENGER DISPUTES WITH JAPAN. |
| 00:34:49 | WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THAT TOKYO DOES NOT LET OUR AIR CARRIERS HAVE BEYOND RIGHTS. |
| 00:34:56 | WE CAN FLY TO TOKYO, BUT WE CAN' T GET OUR CARGO AND OUR PASSENGERS TO MALAYSIA AND CHINA AND SO FORTH. |
| 00:35:03 | THE JAPANESE USE A SYSTEM TO KEEP OUR AIR CARRIERS OUT. |
| 00:35:07 | THAT' S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. |
| 00:35:08 | UNFORTUNATELY, OUR AVIATION DISPUTE WITH JAPAN OVER BEYOND- RIGHTS, THAT IS THE FIFTH FREEDOM RIGHTS, IS NOT COMPLETELY BEHIND US. |
| 00:35:16 | UNITED AIRLINES HAS WAITED WHILE U. |
| 00:35:18 | S. NEGOTIATORS FOCUSED ON THE CARGO DISPUTE. |
| 00:35:20 | NOW THE U. |
| 00:35:21 | S. MUST DEMAND THE GOVERNMENT OF JAPAN HONOR THE RIGHTS OF OUR PASSENGERS, CARRIERS AS WELL. |
| 00:35:27 | UNITED AIRLINES HAS BEEN WRONGLY DENIED THE RIGHT TO START NEW SERVICE BETWEEN OSAKA AND SEOUL, KOREA. |
| 00:35:36 | THIS IS ANOTHER VIOLATION. |
| 00:35:37 | IT MUST BE REDRESSED PROMPTLY. |
| 00:35:39 | MR. |
| 00:35:40 | PRESIDENT, LET ME ALSO SAY I AM AINEG GERD BY SOME MEDIA REPORTS FROM JAPAN DECLARING VICTORY IN THE AVIATION DISPUTE. |
| 00:35:46 | LET ME MAKE THIS POINT LOUD AND CLEAR. |
| 00:35:49 | THIS WAS NOT A VICTORY FOR JAPAN. |
| 00:35:51 | FOR MONTHS THE U. S. HAS BEEN OFFERING TO TALK WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF JAPAN ABOUT OUR BILATERAL AVIATION AGREEMENT. |
| 00:35:56 | QUITE CORRECTLY, THE U. |
| 00:35:58 | S. SAID IT WOULD DO SO ONLY AFTER FEDERAL EXPRESS BEYOND RIGHTS WERE HONORED BY THE JAPANESE. |
| 00:36:02 | THESE REPORTS ARE PREPOSTEROUS. |
| 00:36:04 | THE AVIATION DISPUTE ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING FO JAPAN BEYOND TEMPORARILY PROTECTING ITS CARRIERS FROM MORE HEAD- TO- HEAD COMPETITION WITH OUR CARRIERS. |
| 00:36:13 | THE DISPUTE GALVANIZED CONGRESS TO TAKE A TOUGH STAND. |
| 00:36:17 | IT SHOWED OUR GOVERNMENT CAN ACCOMPLISH WHAT CONGRESS SUPPORTS OUR SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION AND PERMITS HIM TO NEGOTIATE FROM A POSITION OF POLITICAL STRENGTH. |
| 00:36:25 | MR. PRESIDENT, I HOPE OUR RESOLVE IN THE U. |
| 00:36:28 | S.- JAPAN AVIATION DISPUTES SENDS A STRONG SIGNAL TO NATIONS AROUND THE WORLD. |
| 00:36:31 | IF YOU ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE UNITED STATES YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO CHOOSE THOSE WHOFEXS WITH WHICH YOU WILL COMPLY. |
| 00:36:39 | AGREEMENTS BETWEEN NATIONS ARE SOLEMN. |
| 00:36:41 | SO, MR. |
| 00:36:44 | PRESIDENT, LET ME SUMMARIZE BY SAYING THAT LAST NIGHT, I THINK OUR GOVERNMENT SHOWED GREAT PROGRESS IN REACHING THE CARGO AVIATION AGREEMENT WITH JAPAN. |
| 00:36:53 | HOWEVER, WE DID HAVE TO GIVE THEM SOME THINGS, A ROUTE TO CHICAGO AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT HAVE -- MIGHT APPEAR TO SOME THAT WE GAVE IN. |
| 00:37:05 | OVERALL, I THINK THE AVIATION CARGO PART OF THE AGREEMENT IS A STEP FORWARD. |
| 00:37:10 | AND I COMMEND SECRETARY PENA FOR IT. |
| 00:37:13 | BUT WE STILL HAVE THE PASSENGER QUESTION. |
| 00:37:17 | NOW, IN THE SENATE COMMERCE, SCIENCE AND TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, WE HAD A HEARING ABOUT OUR AIRLINES PROBLEMS BEYOND TOKYO AND BEYOND HEEGT ROW. |
| 00:37:26 | AND THERE IS A SYSTEM IN BOTH DIRECTIONS THAT KEEP OUR AIRLINES OUT. |
| 00:37:31 | IT' S KIND OF A SUBTLE SYSTEM SOMETIMES. |
| 00:37:33 | THEY TECHNICALLY MEET SOME OF THE AGREEMENTS, BUT DOING BUSINESS, RULES AND LOADING AND UNLOADING AND HAVING TO USE THIS OLD TERMINAL INSTEAD OF A MODERNIZED TERMINAL, BEING LIMITED TO THESE COMPUTERS, ALL KEEP OUR AIRLINES FROM GOING BEYOND TOKYO AND HEATHROW. |
| 00:37:54 | MR. PRESIDENT, MAY I PROCEED FOR TWO MORE MINUTES? |
| 00:37:57 | THE PRESIDING OFFICER: WITHOUT OBJECTION. |
| 00:37:59 | MR. |
| 00:38:00 | PRESSLER: MR. PRESIDENT, I ALSO WANT TO PAY TRIBUTE TO SECRETARY PENA. |
| 00:38:04 | I HAVE BEEN A CRITIC OF HIS AT TIMES IN THE PAST. |
| 00:38:08 | AND, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION IS THAT HE' S FREQUENTLY UNDERCUT BECAUSE WHAT OUR AIR CARRIERS TEND TO DO IS THE ONE THAT GETS IN WORKS WITH THE FOREIGN GOVERNMENT AT KEEPING THE OTHER ONES OUT. |
| 00:38:19 | AND THEN THE SECRETARY IS PRESENTED WITH A LETTER FROM SIX OR EIGHT SENATORS, AND EIGHT OR TEN HOUSE MEMBERS WHO HAVE A PARTICULAR AIRLINE IN THEIR STATE OR DISTRICT OR THAT HAS ITS HUBS IN THEIR STATE OR DISTRICT OR THAT HAS ITS FACILITIES. |
| 00:38:36 | AND THIS WILL UNDERCUT OUR NEGOTIATING ABILITY. |
| 00:38:39 | SO I HAVE URGED THAT THE ECONOMIC INTERESTS OF THE UNITED STATES BE THE BASIS FOR THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION' S NEGOTIATIONS. |
| 00:38:46 | AND I HAVE OBSERVED SECRETARY PENA. |
| 00:38:48 | AND, IN MY JUDGMENT, HE HAS DONE A GOOD JOB. |
| 00:38:51 | I SAY THAT AS ONE WHO AT ONE POINT WAS A CRITIC OF HIM. |
| 00:38:55 | HE HAS STRUGGLED WITH HIM, AND HE' S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF NEGOTIATING THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT. |
| 00:39:01 | MR. |
| 00:39:02 | PRESIDENT, I DO NOT SEE THIS AS THE END OF OUR PROBLEMS WITH JAPAN. |
| 00:39:05 | BECAUSE I WOULD SUSPECT, HAVING OBSERVED JAPAN' S TRADE HABITS AND PROTECTIONISTIC ACTIVITIES, THAT THEY ARE GOING DO KEEP USING SUBTLE RULES OF BUSINESS TO KEEP OUR CARRIERS FROM GOING ON TO MALAYSIA, CHINA AND ASIA. |
| 00:39:20 | WE ON THIS FLOOR HAVE TO SUPPORT THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION IN TRYING TO OPEN UP THOSE ROUTES. |
| 00:39:27 | SO WE HAVE OPEN SKIES. |
| 00:39:28 | I HOPE SOMEDAY WE' RE THROUGH WITH THESE BILATERAL TREATIES IN AVIATION, THAT WE HAVE LIKE GATT, A WORLDWIDE OPEN SKIES AGREEMENT. |
| 00:39:38 | A STEP FORWARD WAS MADE LAST NIGHT. |
| 00:39:40 | I CONGRATULATE THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION, BUT I STILL THINK WE SHOULD PASS A RESOLUTION IN THIS SENATE GIVING THE JAPANESE NOTICE THAT WE CONSIDER THIS A MAJOR TRADE ISSUE. |
| 00:39:49 | THIS IS AN EXPORT ISSUE. |
| 00:39:50 | THEIR PLANES COME HERE. |
| 00:39:51 | OURS SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO THERE. |
| 00:39:53 | OUR PLANES CANNOT BE BLOCKED OUT OF ASIA BY TOKYO. |
| 00:39:58 | MR. PRESIDENT, I YIELD THE FLOOR, AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE ADDITIONAL TIME. |
| 00:40:04 | THE PRESIDING OFFICER: THE SENATE NOW STANDS IN RECESS UNTIL 9: 00 A. |
| 01:39:45 | M., JULY 24. Y@% |
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