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00:00:00 AND GENTLEMEN, AS PRESIDENT OBAMA WELCOMES VICE PRESIDENT XI JINPING, OUR COMMITTEE WILL HEAR TESTIMONY FROM TWO WIVES APPEALING FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF THEIR JAILED HUSBANDS, GREAT HUMAN RIGHTS LEADERS BACK IN CHINA.
00:00:19 WE'LL HEAR FROM TWO HUMAN RIGHTS EXPERTS AS WELL WHO WILL GIVE GREAT INSIGHT AND DETAIL AS TO THE ISSUES BEFORE US.
00:00:29 AS CHAIRMAN I HOPE PRESIDENT OBAMA DOESN'T PUT HUMAN RIGHTS LAST ON THE AGENDA OR NOT AT ALL WHEN PRESIDENT HUH JINTAO VITD THE PRESIDENT ON JANUARY 19th OF 2011.
00:00:40 ONE OF THE WIVES, LI JING SAYS, ONLY THE UNITED STATES CAN MAKE THIS CASE TO CHINA.
00:00:46 THAT IS THE CASE OF HER HUSBAND AND THE CASE OF THE DISAPPEARED AND INCARCERATED HUMAN RIGHTS LEADERS.
00:00:55 PLEASE, PRESIDENT OBAMA, LISTEN TO THESE COURAGEOUS WOMEN, AND ACT DECISIVELY.
00:01:01 THE CHINA COMMISSION HOPES THE ISSUE OF HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES IN CHINA WILL BE RAISED IN A SERIOUS AND VISIBLE WAY DURING THE VICE PRESIDENT'S VISIT.
00:01:11 AND PARTICULARLY THAT THE DETENTION OF JING, BAO, QINGJING, PASTOR YANG, RON LEE AND YIMITI ARE RACED OFTEN AND DISCUSSED IN DETAIL.
00:01:29 IT'S IMPORTANT AND TIMELY HEARING RECOGNIZES ONE OF CHINA'S MOST IMPORTANT HUMAN RIGHTS LEADERS AND LAWYERS, JIGIANG, MR.
00:01:41 GAO A SELF-TRAINED LAWYER WAS A HUMAN RIGHT DEFENDER AND MARGINALIZED GROUPS.
00:01:51 WE KNOW LITTLE ABOUT HIS CONDITION OR HIS WHEREABOUTS.
00:01:55 THEN THE ISSUE OF QUO KWAN AN ACADEMIC PROFESSOR WHO HAD A LETTER TO MR.
00:02:03 HU, POSTED A CHARITIER FOR NEW DEMOCRACY PARTY ONLINE AND CALLED FOR THE END OF CHINA'S REEDUCATION THROUGH LABOR SYSTEM.
00:02:12 FOR THAT HE WAS SENTENCED TO TEN YEARS IN PRISON.
00:02:17 THE BRILLIANT LEGAL ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF MARGINALIZED GROUPS IN CHINA, RELIGIOUS LEADERS AND OTHERS, CHRISTIANS, RURAL WORKERS, HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVISTS AND MORE, RESULTED IN BEING SENTENCED TO TRUMPED UP INCITING CHARGES IN 2006.
00:02:34 HE WAS SENTENCED TO THREE YEARS IN IMPRISONMENT BUT GRANTED A FIVE-YEAR SUSPENDED SENTENCE OR PERIOD OF PAROLE.
00:02:41 DURING THIS TIME, HOWEVER, MR.
00:02:42 GAO WAS SUBJECTED TO YEARS OF BRUTAL TORTURE AND HE REPEATEDLY, QUOTE, DISAPPEARED.
00:02:50 OUTSPOKEN CHRISTIAN, MR.
00:02:51 GAO HAS DISAPPEARED INTO OFFICIAL CUSTODY SINCE FEBRUARY OF 2009, WITH ONLY A BRIEF REAPPEARANCE UNDER OFFICIAL SUPERVISION IN MARCH AND APRIL OF 2010.
00:03:02 INFORMATION ON MR.
00:03:03 GAO'S ENFORCED DISAPPEARANCE AND CURRENT CONDITION REMAINS A CLOSELY GUARDED SECRET.
00:03:09 FOR MONTHS AND YEARS WE HEARD NOTHING OF MR.
00:03:11 GAO'S ONGOING DETENTION OR TORTURE.
00:03:14 TWO MONTHS AGO, HOWEVER, CHINESE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCED -- OFFICIALS ANNOUNCED MR.
00:03:20 GAO WOULD BE FORCED TO SERVE OUT HIS ORIGINAL THREE-YEAR CRIMINAL SENTENCE A WEEK BEFORE HE SHOULD HAVE FINISHED HIS FIVE-YEAR PAROLE PERIOD.
00:03:29 THE ANNOUNCEMENT CLAIMED MR.
00:03:32 GAO VIOLATED CONDITIONS OF HIS PAROLE PAROLE.
00:03:35 VENG, NO DETAILS WERE PROVIDED.
00:03:36 ONE CAN ONLY WONDER WHAT VIOLATIONS MR.
00:03:38 GAO COMMITTED SINCE HE HAS BEEN HELD IN XHUN COMMUNICADO AND BRUTALLY TORTURED.
00:03:51 HIS BROTHER AND OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE BEEN TURPED AWAY IN THEIR ATTEMPTS TO VISIT HIM.
00:03:55 WE HAVE RECEIVED NO WORD ON HIS HEALTH OR CONDITION.
00:03:59 AN EXPERT WITNESS WILL DEMONSTRATE THE OFFICIAL CASE AGAINST GAO IS ONLY RIFE WITH VILLAINY OR ANY SEMBLANCE OF HUMANITY.
00:04:12 IN JANUARY OF 2011, MR.
00:04:14 GAO DISCLOSED TO ASSOCIATED PRESS REPORTER THE EXCRUCIATING DETAILS OF HIS DETENTION.
00:04:20 QUOTE, THE POLICE STRIPPED HIM BARE AND PUMMELED HIM WITH HANDGUNS IN HOSTSTERSLE CENTER HOLSTERS.
00:04:33 HE RECALLED FOR 48 HOURS MY LIFE HUNG BY A THREAD.
00:04:37 AUTHORITIES REPORTEDLY THREATENED TO KILL MR.
00:04:39 GAO, TO DUMP HIS BODY IN A RIVER AND AUTHORITIES TAUNTED HIM BY SAYING, YOU MUST FORGET, YOU'RE HUMAN.
00:04:46 TO THE VICE PRESIDENT OF CHINA, WE WILL NOT FORGET.
00:04:50 WE DON'T KNOW IF MR.
00:04:51 GAO IS ALIVE OR DEAD.
00:04:53 IN SOLIDARITY WITH MR.
00:04:55 GAO, HIS FAMILY, HIS LOVELY WIFE IS HERE TODAY, WE KNOW WE'LL HONOR HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS, HIS RIGHTS ADVOCACY AND BRAVE, BRAVE WITNESS FOR THE TRUTH.
00:05:07 WE WILL NOT LET THOSE WHO HOLD HIM TO DESTROY HIS LEGACY.
00:05:11 WE WILL NOT ALLOW THESE CRIMINALS TO DISPOSE OF HIS SIGNIFICANCE.
00:05:16 WE WILL NOT FORGET HIM, NOT NOW, NOT EVER AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO PRESS FOR HIS RELEASE.
00:05:22 WE'LL HONOR TO HEAR FROM TWO SPECIALISTS WITH UNIQUE INSIGHTS, INCLUDING JAROD GINSER, FOUNDER OF FREEDOM NOW AND MEMBER OF THE PRO BONO LEGAL TEAM.
00:05:35 HE'LL DISCUSS THE RECENTLY FILED PETITION WITH U.
00:05:38 N. AND ASH TEAR DETENTION WHICH SEEKS AN OPINION AUTO WHETHER HIS IMPRISONMENT VIOLATES INTERNATIONAL LAW AND FROM BOB FU, WHO ALSO SPENT TIME IN THE LAOGIA IN CHINA WILL DISCUSS THE FREE GAO CAMPAIGN AND THE NEED TO HOLD CHINA ACCOUNTABLE FOR ONGOING HARASSMENT.
00:06:03 THE CASE OF QUU KWAN, UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR, ILLUSTRATES HOW CHINESE OFFICIALS TARGET CITIZENS WHO ATTEMPT TO FORM INDEPENDENT POLITICAL PARTIES OR USE THE INTERNET TO ORGANIZE OR POSE ONLINE OPINIONS DEEMED TOO POLITICALLY SENSITIVE.
00:06:20 IN 2007 MR.
00:06:24 QUAN BEGAN POSTING A SERIES OF OPEN LETTERS TO TOP GOVERNMENT LEADERS ADVOCATING ON BEHALF OF GOVERNMENT WORKERS.
00:06:35 HE ALSO WROTE LETTERS CALLING FOR A MULTIPARTY RULE AND FOR DEMOCRATIC REFORMS.
00:06:41 BECAUSE OF HIS WRITINGS, BECAUSE THEY WERE CONSIDERED TOO CRITICAL OF THE GOVERNMENT, HE LOST HIS UNIVERSITY PROFESSORSHIP, AND THEN HE WAS FURTHER DEMOTED FROM A COMMON YOU NIS DEMOCRATIC LEAGUE STATE-APPROVED PARTY, AND FORMED HIS OWN PARTY, AND FOR THAT HE HAS GOTTEN -- AND BECAUSE OF THESE OTHER THINGS, TEN-YEAR PRISON SENTENCE.
00:07:02 THE HEARING TODAY CONTINUES THE CONGRESSIONAL EXECUTIVE COMMISSION CHINA'S WORK TO MONITOR HUMAN RIGHTS IN THE RULE OF LAW DEVELOPMENTS AND TO GIVE VOICE TO THE PERSECUTED.
00:07:12 IN THE PAST YEAR THE COMMISSION HAS CONSISTENTLY RAISED CHINA'S ONGOING VIOLATIONS OF INTERNATIONAL LAW AND HUMAN RIGHTS STANDARDS IN REPORTS AND EVENTS.
00:07:22 RECENT HEARINGS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BOLDLY SHINE A LIGHT ON SOME OF CHINESE GRAVEST HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES AND INJUSTICES AND ON ITS DARKEST POLICIES.
00:07:33 IN DECEMBER OF 2011 JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, OUR COMMISSION HELD A HEARING ON SHIBAO, A YEAR AFTER HE WAS AWARDED THE NOBLE PEACE PRIZE IN ABSENTIA.
00:07:45 NOT EVEN HIS WIFE WAS ALLOWED TO TRAVEL TO OSLO TO RECEIVE THAT AWARD AND HE MAINS INCARCERATED UNJUSTICELY.
00:07:55 A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WE HEALED HEARING ON THE ILLEGAL ABUSE OF A SELF-TRAINED LEGAL ADVOCATE, MR.
00:08:04 CHIN, WHO WAS WRONGFULLY IMPROST PRISONED FOR EXPOSING THE FORCED ABORTION POLICY AND HEROIC ACTIVISM ON BEHALF OF WOMEN VICTIMS WHICH CAUSED THE IRE OF THE DICTATORSHIP TO COME DOWN WITH FULL FORCE.
00:08:21 CHINA'S ONE CHILD PER COUPLE CHILD IS STATE SPONSORED CRUELTY AND CONSTITUTES A MASSIVE CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.
00:08:32 THE NUREMBERG TRIBUNEALS SAYS IT'S A HUMAN RHYME.
00:08:38 NOTHING COMPARES TO THE MAGNITUDE OF CHINA'S 33-YEAR ASSAULT ON WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
00:08:42 CHIN SPOKE OUT.
00:08:44 CHIN AND HIS WIFE CONTINUE TO PAY A PRICE.
00:08:47 THAT POLICY, AS WE ALL KNOW, HAS MADE BROTHERS AND SISTERS ILLEGAL.
00:08:50 IT HAS LED TO THE ABSENCE OF UPWARDS OF 100 MILLION GIRLS WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED BY WAY OF SEX SELECTION ABORTION AS PART OF THIS ONE-CHILD PER COUPLE PUSH AND THAT HAS LED TO A MASSIVE INCREASE IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING BECAUSE THE WOMEN SIMPLY AREN'T THERE.
00:09:09 WE HELD A HEARING IN WHICH WE HEARD THAT BETWEEN NOW AND 2020, SOMETHING ON THE ORDER OF 40 TO 50 MEN WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FIND WIVES BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN SYSTEMATICALLY KILLED.
00:09:25 SO, IT IS A VERY SERIOUS POLICY.
00:09:29 CHEN SPOKE OUT AND PAID THE PRICE.
00:09:31 I AND MEMBER OF OUR STAFF HAVE TRIED TO VISIT CHEN KWAN GEN.
00:09:39 WE APRIDE REPEATEDLY FOR A VISA TO VISIT HIM.
00:09:44 TURNED DOWN.
00:09:45 MY HOPE IS THEY'LL GRANT IT AND GRANT IT SOON.
00:09:48 I WANT TO THANK OUR DISTINGUISHED WITNESSES.
00:09:50 I WOULD LIKE TO TURN TO MY GOOD FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, CO-CHAIRMAN BROWN, FOR ANY OPENING COMMENTS.
00:09:55 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
00:09:56 I WILL BE BRIEF.
00:09:57 THANK YOU ALL FOR ATTENDING TODAY'S IMPORTANT HEARING ON THE TREATMENT OF CHINESE HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYER.
00:10:04 WE ARE HERE TO SHOW SUPPORT FOR A MAN WHO DEVOTED HIS RIGHTS TO DEFENDING THE RIGHTS OF HIS FILL LOW CITIZENS, A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO HIS COURAGEOUS WIFE.
00:10:14 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
00:10:19 WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU ABOUT YOUR WIFE'S CAREER AND HUSBAND AND MARGINALIZED IN PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA AND KNOW HIS AND YOUR DEVOTION TO HUMAN RIGHTS IS AN INSPIRATION FOR SO MANY PEOPLE IN CHINA AND ACROSS THE WORLD.
00:10:39 THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALSO TO LI JINANG, SHE WILL TELL THE STORY OF HER HUSBAND STANDING UP FOR HUMAN RIGHTS IN THE FACE OF INTIMIDATION AND IMPROM IMPRISONMENT.
00:10:48 TODAY'S HEARING COMES AT AN IMPORTANT TIME IN RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC AS CHINA.
00:10:55 AS CHINESE VICE PRESIDENT ATTENDS MEETINGS MINUTES AWAY FROM HERE WITH TOP OFFICIALS WE'RE REMINDED THE REAL CHINA IS REPRESENTED BY THE BRAVE INDIVIDUAL IMPRISONED WHO IS THE FOCUS OF TODAY'S HEARING.
00:11:10 IN UNDERSTANDING GAO'S STORY WE UNDERSTAND NOT ONLY WHAT HE STANDS FOR BUT THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE IN CHINA TODAY.
00:11:17 MR. GAO DEVOTED HIS LIFE TO TRYING TO MAKE THE LAW WORK FOR THOSE HE REPRESENTED THE UNDERPRIVILEGED AND THE UNDERSERVED.
00:11:24 HE STOOD UP FOR THOSE KICKED OFF THEIR LAND BY GREEDY AND CORRUPT OFFICIALS AND DEVELOPERS.
00:11:30 HE STOOD BY FACTORY WORKERS, PROTESTING LOW WAGES AND LONG HOURS.
00:11:35 HE SPOKE OUT FOR PERSECUTED PROSECUTORS.
00:11:40 IN STARK CONTRAST, CHINESE AUTHORITIES SHOWED NO CONCERN FOR MR.
00:11:43 GAO'S RIGHTS OR THE LAW.
00:11:45 THEY DISBARRED HIM, JAILED HIM.
00:11:49 THEY HAVE TORETURED HIM AND SOMEHOW MADE HIM DISAPPEAR.
00:11:53 CHINESE AUTHORITIES HAVE USED HIM TO SEND A CHILLING MESSAGE TO OTHER WOULD-BE HUMAN RIGHTS DEFENDERS.
00:11:58 STAY QUIET, DON'T CHALLENGE US, DON'T HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE OR ELSE.
00:12:04 MR. GAO HIMSELF WOULD SAY HIS CASE IS MORE THAN JUST HIS OWN EXPERIENCE.
00:12:07 AS HE WROTE IN HIS BOOK, A CHINA MORE JUST.
00:12:10 BEHIND EACH CASE IN CHINA ARE SYSTEMATIC PROBLEMS.
00:12:14 THOSE -- FROM THE PROBLEMS MR.
00:12:18 GAO HAS FACED, THE UTTER DISREGARD OF RULE OF LAW BY HIS PARTY AND COMMUNIST PARTY, WE SEE WHY OUR NATION FACES SO MANY SYSTEMATIC PROBLEMS WITH CHINA TODAY.
00:12:27 MR. GAO'S CASE AND THE KAYS HE WORKED ON SHOWED US HOW EASILY IT IS FOR CHINESE OFFICIALS TO CHEAT, TO BEND THE RULES, TO GAME THE SYSTEM.
00:12:36 THEY SHOWED US HOW EASY IT IS FOR CHINA TO IGNORE LABOR LAWS, ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS, RAW MATERIALS, MANIPULATE THEIR CURRENCY.
00:12:45 THEY BRAZENLY TELL US AND THEN SELL US WITH THE HELP OF SOME OF OUR OWN COMPANIES, I MIGHT ADD IN THIS COUNTRY, TOXIC TOYS, TAINTED PET FOOD, CONSUMER PRODUCTS MADE BY OVERWORKED AND UNDERPAID WORKERS.
00:12:57 AND WHILE I AND OTHERS IN IN OUR GOVERNMENT ARE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND HELP OF OUR CITIZENS IN A FAIR TRADING RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA, WE KNOW WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE.
00:13:10 WE NEED BRAVE CITIZENS LIKE THE MEN EACH OF YOU ARE MARRIED TO, TO DEFEND THEIR RIGHTS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A FAIR AND LIVING WAGE, THEIR FOOD IS SAFE, THAT THEIR ENVIRONMENT IS CLEAN.
00:13:20 THAT'S WHY MR.
00:13:23 GAO'S CASE IS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF CHINESE CITIZENS CAN DEFEND THEIR RIGHTS, WE ALL BENEFIT.
00:13:28 WE ALL BENEFIT IN MY STATE, MY CURRENT AND AROUND THE WORLD WHEN WE KNOW THE PRODUCTS WE BUY FROM CHINA ARE MADE BY WORKERS WHO ARE TREATED WELL AND GOOD, CLEANER CONDITIONS.
00:13:39 WE ALL BENEFIT FROM A RULE OF LAW THAT ENSURES THE CITIZENS OF CHINA THE POSSIBILITY TO HOLD THEIR GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABLE AND TO PETITION GRIEVANCES TO EFFECT CHANGE.
00:13:48 BUT UNTIL MR.
00:13:49 GAO AND COUNTLESS OTHER POLITICAL PRISONERS IN CHINA ARE RELEASED FROM THEIR SHACKLES, THAT DAY WILL REMAIN IN DISTANT FUTURE.
00:13:56 THAT'S WHY WE ON THIS COMMISSION, OUR GOVERNMENT MUST CONTINUE TO DO ALL WE CAN TO SPOTLIGHT THESE CASES AND SECURE MR.
00:14:03 GAO'S RELEASE.
00:14:04 WE WANT TO HELP IN ANY WAY WE CAN.
00:14:07 TREATMENT OF BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS DESERVES NOTHING LESS.
00:14:09 THANK YOU, ALL OF YOU, FOR JOINING THIS HEARING.
00:14:11 >> THANK YOU, SENATOR BROWN.
00:14:12 I YIELD TO RANKING MEMBER TIM WALLS.
00:14:18 >> I YEELTD TO THEIELD TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE L A.
00:14:24 NTOS CHAIRMAN AND OUTSPOKEN ADVOCATE ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS, AGAINST IT, IN CHINA, IS FRANK WOLF.
00:14:30 >> I WANT TO THANK YOU MRS.
00:14:31 SMITH AND SENATOR BROWN FOR YOUR WORK ON THESE ISSUES.
00:14:33 I DO HAVE A STATEMENT I WANT TO READ AND SAY.
00:14:36 I WOKE THIS MORNING TO READ A POWERFUL BUT THOROUGHLY UNSETTLING PIECE BY CHINESE DISSIDENT YUJIA IN "THE WASHINGTON POST.
00:14:47 " HE SAID CHINESE DISSIDENT EXILED TO THE WEST TODAY GET A VERY DIFFERENT RESPONSE THAN SOVIET WRITERS RECEIVED NOT LONG AGO.
00:14:55 I WOULD GO FURTHER THAT MR.
00:14:57 YU.
00:14:58 CHINESE DEFECTORS GET A VERY DIFFERENT RESPONSE AS EVIDENCED BY A STORY THAT BROKE DAYS AGO ABOUT A SENIOR COMMUNIST PARTY OFFICIAL IN CHINA THAT REPORTEDLY ATTEMPTED TO DEFECT TO THE U.
00:15:08 S. AND WAS TURNED AWAY AFTER HIS REQUEST FOR ASYLUM WAS REJECTED.
00:15:14 THE SOFT-SPOKEN MAN WHO I RECENTLY MET ENDURED BEATINGS AND TORTURE FROM CHINESE SECRET POLICE.
00:15:23 HE ASSERTS CHINA IS A GREATER THREAT THAN THE SOVIET UNION EVER WAS BUT NOW THE WEST LACKS VISIONARY POLITICIANS SUCH AS RONALD REAGAN TO STAND UP TO THAT THREAT.
00:15:32 I COULD NOT AGREE MORE.
00:15:34 IN FACT, JUST LAST WEEK, ALONG WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER MEMBERS, WE URGED PRESIDENT OBAMA IN A LETTER SIGNED BY A NUMBER OF MEMBERS TO DO WHAT REAGAN HAS DONE.
00:15:43 WE URGED HIM TO MEET WITH THE FAMILIES OF THESE DISSIDENTS.
00:15:46 WE URGED THE PRESIDENT TO PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY RAISE THE CASES OF SIX PROMINENT CHINESE CITIZENS WHO SUFFERED GREATLY AT THE HANDS OF THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT.
00:15:56 AMONG THEM, GAO.
00:15:57 WE WILL HAVE THE HONOR OF HEARING HIS WIFE MOMENTARILY.
00:16:01 WE ALSO URGED THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT TO MEET WITH MR.
00:16:05 GAO'S WIFE PRIOR TO THE MEETING WITH CHINESE VICE PRESIDENT TO HEARING FIRSTHAND ABOUT THE PLOY OF THESE DISSIDENTS.
00:16:12 WHILE THE VICE PRESIDENT'S TRIP TO THE U.
00:16:14 S. IS ALREADY UNDER WAY, THE ADMINISTRATION COULD STILL GIVE GAO'S WIFE THE COURTESY OF A MEETING, THE COURTESY OF A MEETING, AFTER THE FACT, GIVEN THAT THEY ROLLED OUT DIPLOMATIC RED CARPET FOR THE VERY GOVERNMENT WHO HAS IMPRISONED AND TORTURED HER HUSBAND.
00:16:32 CAN'T THEY NOW MEET WITH HER EVEN IF IT'S AFTERWARD IF THEY IGNORED IT BEFORE?
00:16:38 IT'S CLEAR THE CURRENT APPROACH TO CHINA IS NOT WORKING.
00:16:41 WE'RE LOSING JOBS.
00:16:44 GRAVE HUMAN RIGHTS AND RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ABUSES ARE REPORTEDLY DISCUSSED IN PRIVATE MEETINGS BUT RARELY IF EVER RAISED PUBLICLY HAS NOT YIELDED ANY RESULTS AND, IN FACT, HAS EMBOLDENED, IT HAS EMBOLDENED THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT.
00:16:57 WE SHOULD NOT FORGET TO PERCENTCUTE A CHURCH.
00:17:03 THEY SAY 25 CATHOLIC BISHOPS UNDERGROUND CHURCH ARE UNDER HOUSE ARREST.
00:17:08 PROTESTANT PASTORS ARE IN JAIL.
00:17:10 A TIBETAN NUN JUST SET HERSELF AFLAME ON SUNDAY BECAUSE OF THE ACTIVITY.
00:17:14 AND THE LIST GOES ON.
00:17:16 BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS IN CONTEXT WITH THE NEXT THING, THESE ISSUES WOULD HAVE FEATURED, I'M SURE, PROMINENTLY IN A TRIP TO SUZANNE JOHNSON COOK, STATE DEPARTMENT'S AMBASSADOR FOR INTERNATIONAL RELIGIOUS FREEDOM WAS READY TO TAKE TO CHINA LAST WEEK.
00:17:32 IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HER TRIP HAS BEEN CANCELED, HER REQUEST TO MEET WITH CHINESE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WERE DENIED AND A CEASE SA WAS DENIED.
00:17:42 SO THAT THE SPECIAL AMBASSADOR FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION CAN'T GET TO CHINA, CAN'T EVEN GET A CEASE SA AND YET YOU HAVE PEOPLE PUTTING IN JAIL AND TORTURING PEOPLE.
00:17:56 IT BEGS THE QUESTION, HAS THE DEPARTMENT PROTESTED THIS ACTION?
00:18:00 HAS THE SECRETARY OF THE WHITE HOUSE PROTESTED THAT THEIR OWN AMBASSADOR CANNOT EVEN GET A VISA TO GO TO CHINA?
00:18:09 I HAVE MORE BUT I'LL END ON THIS COMMENT.
00:18:11 MARTIN LUTHER KING FAMOUSLY SAID, QUOTE, IN THE END, WE WILL REMEMBER NOT THE WORDS OF OUR ENEMIES BUT THE SILENCE OF OUR FRIENDS.
00:18:20 AMERICA IS A FRIEND TO THE IMPRISONED HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYER.
00:18:24 AMERICA IS A FRIEND TO THE YOUNG TIBETAN NUN WHO JUST SET HERSELF AFLAME.
00:18:30 THEY THE KATRINA BISHOPS, PROS TANT PASTORS AND WE SHOULD BE SILENCE ADD THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN.
00:18:39 AND I YIELD BACK.
00:18:40 >> CHAIRMAN WOLF, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR DISTINGUISHED PANELISTS.
00:18:45 WITHOUT OBJECTION A FULL BIO WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE RECORD.
00:18:51 BRIEFLY, WIFE OF GAO.
00:18:57 SHE -- GUNG COMPLETED UNIVERSITY STUDIES IN ACCOUNTING IN CHINA.
00:19:01 SHE AND HUMAN RIGHTS GAO MARRIED IN AUGUST OF 1990, BETWEEN 2000 AND 2006 SHE WORKED As A PARALEGAL AT A BEIJING LAW FIRM.
00:19:12 A LAW FIRM FOUNDED AND DIRECTED BY HER HUSBAND.
00:19:16 IN MARCH 2009 A MONTH AFTER OFFICIALS REPORTEDLY DETAINED HER HUSBAND, SHE LEFT WITH HER TWO CHIRP.
00:19:25 SHE'S ADVOCATED TENACIOUSLY ON BEHALF OF HER HUSBAND, THROUGH INTERVIEWS AND BY TODAY IN TESTIFYING BUT SHE HAS BEEN EVERYWHERE, SPEAKING OUT FOR HER PERSECUTED HUSBAND.
00:19:37 WE'LL HEAR FROM LI JINANG WIFE OF QU QUAN.
00:19:45 SHE HAS A BA FROM NANJING CITY.
00:19:48 SHE AND DEMOCRACY ADVOCATE MARRIED IN NOVEMBER OF 1999.
00:19:53 SHE WORKED FOR MODERN EXPRESS NEWSPAPER FOR FIVE YEARS.
00:19:56 LI ALSO LI WORKED IN IMPORT AND EXPORT BUSINESSES.
00:20:00 SHE ARRIVED IN THE UNITED STATES IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, 2012.
00:20:05 SHE PUBLICLY ADVOCATED ON HER HUSBAND'S BEHALF AND CURRENTLY SERVING A 10-YEAR SENTENCE FOR SUBVERSION OF STATE POWERS AFTER A COURT FOUND HE USED THE INTERNET TO ORGANIZE A POLITICAL PARTY AND PUBLISH REACTIONARY STATEMENTS ON LINE.
00:20:23 WE WILL HEAR FROM THE FOUNDER OF FREEDOM NOW, AN INDEPENDENT NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS TO FREE PRISONERS OF CONSCIOUS WORLDWIDE.
00:20:33 SHE ALSO MANAGING DIRECTOR OF THE CONSULTING FIRM FOCUSING ON HUMAN RIGHTS PROJECTS.
00:20:40 HE WAS A PARTNER IN THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS PRACTICE OF DLA PIPER AND A MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT OF KUENZIE AND COMPANY.
00:20:48 HE WORKED WITH AND HAS FOR THIS COMMISSION AS WELL AS MY COMMITTEE, I CHAIR THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE FOR THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND HAS BEEN A SOURCE OF ACTIONABLE INFORMATION CONCERNING HUMAN RIGHTS IN GENERAL, BUT POLITICAL PRISONERS IN PARTICULAR.
00:21:04 WE WILL HEAR FROM PASTOR BOB FU, A STUDENT OF THE DEMOCRACY MOVEMENT IN TIANAMEN SQUARE ALONG WITH HIS WIFE.
00:21:14 IN 1996, AUTHORITIES ARRESTED AND IMPRISONED THEM FOR THEIR WORK AFTER THEIR RELEASE, THEY ESCAPED TO THE UNITED STATES AND FOUNDED CHINAING FOUNDATION.
00:21:31 HE HAS BEEN A GREAT SOURCE OF INFORMATION AND IS ACCURATE AS WELL AS ACTIONABLE.
00:21:37 I THANK HIM FOR HIS LEADERSHIP ON BEHALF OF PEOPLE OF ALL FAITH ESPECIALLY CHRISTIANS WHO ARE SUFFERING IN THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA.
00:21:46 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HER TO PRESENT HER TESTIMONY.
00:21:56 . >> LOUDER, PLEASE.
00:22:07 [ SPEAK FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
00:22:13 >> Translator: GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE AND HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY.
00:22:17 GREETINGS TO THE CHAIRMAN AND THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO SPEAK ABOUT MY HUSBAND.
00:22:24 I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CONGRESSIONAL COMMISSIONS IN CHINA FOR HOLDING THIS HEARING TODAY AND EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE FOR YOUR INTEREST IN THE CASE.
00:22:36 . >> [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
00:22:59 >> Translator: MY HUSBAND IS A LAWYER IN CHINA AND REPRESENTED THE COUNTRIES MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS AND REPRESENTED THE PLAINTIFFS TO DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
00:23:13 THEY WERE ARRESTED AFTER THEY DEMONSTRATED AGAINST LOW WAGES AND LONG HOURS.
00:23:17 HE ALSO REPRESENTED A NUMBER OF CHRISTIAN CHURCHES AND PARISHIONERS OF THE MOVEMENTS AND HIS RIGHTEOUS ACTIONS BROUGHT HIMSELF THE PERSECUTION BY THE CHINESE AUTHORITY.
00:23:31 AS THE LAWYER SAID, YOU CANNOT BE A RIGHTS LAWYER IN CHINA WITHOUT BEING A RIGHTS CASE YOURSELF.
00:23:41 >>. [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
00:24:02 >> Translator: ON NOVEMBER 2005, THE GUNMAN SUSPENDED THE LAW LICENSE AND CLOSED HIS LAW FIRM AFTER HE REFUSED TO DROP MOST SENSITIVE CASES.
00:24:14 HE WAS COMMITTED OF CONVERSIONS AFTER CONFESSING IN THE CASE OF STRESS AGAINST OUR CHILDREN.
00:24:20 SINCE THEN OUR LIVES HAVE BEEN TURNED UPSIDE DOWN.
00:24:23 THE GUNMAN PLACED OUR FAMILIES UNDER SURVEILLANCE AND MOVED TO THE BUILDING AND FOLLOWED US EVERYWHERE.
00:24:34 THE GUNMAN HAS REPEATEDLY ABDUCT AND TORTURED IN THE PAST FEW YEARS.
00:24:42 . >> [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
00:25:38 >> Translator: IN 2007, THRDS DISAPPEARED AND HELD HIM FOR OVER 50 DAYS AFTER HE WROTE AN OPEN LETTER TO THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS EXPOSING HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES IN CHINA.
00:25:50 THE POLICEMEN COVERED HIS HEAD WITH A BLACK MASK AND TOOK HIM TO A ROOM WHERE THEY STRIPPED HIM NAKED AND BEAT HIM.
00:25:59 THEY SHOCKED HIM ALL THE WAY, ESPECIALLY HIS PRIVATE PARTS AND TURNING HIS SKIN TOTALLY BLACK.
00:26:05 IT WAS SO PAINFUL HE WAS ROLLING OVER ON THE GROUND.
00:26:08 AFTER LOSING CONSCIOUSNESS FROM THE TORTURE, HE WOKE UP, COVERED IN URINE.
00:26:16 LATER HIS CAPTORS USED CIGARETTE SMOKE TO BURN HIS EYES SO SEVERELY, HE COULD NOT OPEN THEM.
00:26:24 THEY STUFFED HIS GENITALS WITH TOOTH PICKS.
00:26:27 THEY SAID THEY WOULD LOCK HIM UP IN PRISON.
00:26:31 THEY SAID WE CAN MAKE YOU DISAPPEAR WHENEVER WE WANT TO UNLESS WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND THIS TORTURE LIES MORE THAN THREE DAYS.
00:26:47 >>. [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
00:26:57 >> Translator: IN ORDER TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN, I ESCAPED TO THE UNITED STATES IN JANUARY OF 2009.
00:27:04 IN THE NEXT MONTHS, AUTHORITIES ABDUCTED HIM AGAIN.
00:27:07 THIS TIME THE GUNMEN HELD HIM FOR OVER A YEAR BEFORE HE REAPPEARED THE FOLLOWING SPRING.
00:27:13 IN AN INTERVIEW WITH THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, THEY DESCRIBED MORE TORTURE IN THE DISAPPEARANCE AND HE SAID THIS WAS THE WORST BEATING HE EVER ENDURED AND HIS LIFE HUNG BY A THREAT.
00:27:27 AFTER THE INTERVIEW HE DISAPPEARED AGAIN.
00:27:32 . >> [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
00:28:00 . >> I LAST SPOKE TO HIM ON OUR DAUGHTER'S BIRTHDAY.
00:28:04 SINCE THEN WE HAD CONSTANT UNCERTAINTY.
00:28:08 THIS ABSENCE CAUSED MY DAUGHTER ANGUISH AND DREAMS HER FATHER IS DEAD.
00:28:15 ON FATHER'S DAY, MY SON TOLD HIS TEACHER HE DOESN'T HAVE A FATHER.
00:28:20 WE WERE FORCED TO ENDURE RUMORS THE GUARDS TORTURED HIM TO DEATH.
00:28:27 >>. [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
00:29:04 >> Translator: THEN IN DECEMBER 2011, LESS THAN A WEEK BEFORE THE PROBATION WAS SCHEDULED TO END, THE CHINESE AUTHORITY ADDED TO UNCERTAINTY BY CLAIMING HE WOULD SPENT THE NEXT THREE YEARS IN PRISON.
00:29:18 THIS NEWS CAME BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS HOLIDAYS.
00:29:24 SOME PEOPLE HAVE ASKED US IF WE ARE RELIEVED BECAUSE THE GUNMAN SAID HE'S ALIVE.
00:29:29 THE NEWS HAS NOT BROUGHT US PEACE OF MIND.
00:29:33 WE ARE MORE WORRIED THAN EVER BEFORE.
00:29:39 HOW CAN WE BELIEVE IT AND WE DON'T KNOW IF HE IS STILL IN THE PRISON.
00:29:46 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
00:30:01 >> Translator: THIS MORNING, VICE PRESIDENT WAS MEETING WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA AND VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND BEFORE THEY WERE MEETING, I REQUESTED TO MEET WITH THEM AND I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED.
00:30:16 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
00:30:42 >> Translator: I'M SO GRATEFUL THE U.
00:30:45 S. PROVIDED PROTECTION FOR MY FAMILY FROM THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT.
00:30:48 I NEED TO ASK ALL OF YOU INCLUDING PRESIDENT OBAMA AND VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND SECRETARY HILLARY TO HELP HUMAN RIGHTS FOR ALL ITS CITIZENS AND I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A MEETING WITH THEM TO TELL THEM THE STORY FACE-TO-FACE.
00:31:04 I ASK YOU TO CONTINUE TO REPORT ON THIS CASE SO THE TRUTH ABOUT THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT WILL BE KNOWN TO THE WORLD AND I HOPE AND PRAY THAT WITH YOUR HELP MY HUSBAND WILL REGAIN HIS FREEDOM AND MY FAMILY CAN BE TOGETHER ONCE AGAIN.
00:31:18 THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK HERE TODAY.
00:31:22 I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
00:31:28 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
00:31:44 >> Translator: I WOULD REQUEST THE CONGRESS TO INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING ARTICLES.
00:31:51 THE FIRST ONE IS FOR OUR CASE ABOUT EXECUTION ON CHRISTIANS IN CHINA AND THE SECOND IS AN OPEN LETTER BY THE LAWYER.
00:32:02 THIS IS ABOUT THE PERSECUTION AND THE THIRD IS A LETTER THAT THE LAWYER WROTE REGARDING THE TITLE IS DARK KNIGHT, DARK MASK BY THE MAFIA.
00:32:13 THE LAST ONE IS AN INTERVIEW WITH THE ASSOCIATED PRESS BY THE LAWYER.
00:32:20 THANK YOU.
00:32:21 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR VERY MOVING TESTIMONY.
00:32:24 IN APPEAL OF WIFE ON BEHALF OF HER HUSBAND WHO HAS BEEN PURSEICATED AND THE TERRIBLE DEVASTATING IMPACT IT HAS ON YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND OF COURSE ON YOUR HUSBAND AS WELL.
00:32:38 WITHOUT OBJECTION THE REQUEST YOU HAVE MADE FOR THE DO YOU MEANS WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE RECORD AND I WOULD INCLUDE ANOTHER ONE.
00:32:44 ONE THAT I REMEMBER WE RECEIVED ON SEPTEMBER 27th OF 2007 THAT WAS USED AGAINST HIM.
00:32:52 IT WAS KNOW OPEN LETTER TO THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS, A VERY, VERY INSIGHTFUL LETTER WITH QUOTATIONS FROM MADISON, THE QUOTATION FROM MARTIN LUTHER KING WHERE KING SAID IN JUSTICE ANYWHERE IS A THREAT TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE.
00:33:10 THAT WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE RECORD.
00:33:13 I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE OUR SECOND WIFE WHOSE HUSBAND IS BEING UNJUSTLY PERSECUTED.
00:33:19 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.
00:33:26 . >> DISTINGUISHED MR.
00:33:27 CHAIRMAN, COCHAIRMAN, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, AND FRIENDS.
00:33:32 MY NAME IS LI GINNING AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT THE PERSECUTION OF MY HUSBAND AND OUR FAMILY.
00:33:41 MY HUSBAND IS CURRENTLY IN PRISON SERVING A 10-YEAR SENTENCE FOR PEACEFULLY EXPRESSING HIS OPINIONS ABOUT DEMOCRACY AND HUMAN RIGHTS.
00:33:52 AFTER SEVERAL YEARS OF HARASSMENT, MY SON AND I ARRIVED IN THE UNITED STATES THREE WEEKS AGO.
00:34:00 WE ARE EXILED IN THIS CURRENTLY CURRENTLY ENJOYING FREEDOMS HERE THAT HOPEFULLY WILL SOME DAY BE ENJOYED BY EVERYONE IN CHINA.
00:34:12 BECAUSE I NOW HAVE FREEDOM TO SPEAK, I WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MY HUSBAND'S CASE.
00:34:22 HE'S AN ACADEMIC PROFESSOR AT A UNIVERSITY WITH A DEGREE IN LAW AND A DOCTORATE IN PHILOSOPHY.
00:34:32 HE STARTED TO PUBLICLY CREATE DEMOCRACY AND HUMAN RIGHTS IN 2007.
00:34:43 BECAUSE OF HIS WORK, MY HUSBAND SUFFERED.
00:34:48 HE CANNOT TEACH AGAIN.
00:34:51 HE WAS STRIPPED OF HIS ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR SALARY AND CAN WORK FOR ONLY MINIMUM WAGE.
00:35:00 IT MAKES HIM FEEL HUMAN RIGHTS HAVE NOT IMPROVE.
00:35:03 EVEN WORSE.
00:35:05 THIS DEMOTION DID NOT STOP HIS ADVOCACY.
00:35:08 IN LESS THAN A YEAR'S TIME, HE PUBLISHED ONLINE THE DEMOCRACY COLLECTION OF 347 ARTICLES WITH ONE PARTY DICTATORSHIP SPREADING THE IDEAS OF DEMOCRACY AND CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT.
00:35:34 TO PUSH THE DEMOCRACY IN CHINA ON DECEMBER 17, 2007, MY HUSBAND POSTED A CHINA NEW PEOPLE'S PARTY CHATTER.
00:35:44 JUST ONLINE ANNOUNCING THE FOUNDING OF THIS PARTY.
00:35:50 THEY FILED ACTION AND MEMBERS HE SUFFERED.
00:35:56 ON NOVEMBER 13, 2008, 19 POLICE ATTENDED MY HUSBAND ON THE CHARGE OF STATE POWER.
00:36:05 HE WAS FORMALLY ARRESTED ON DECEMBER 19, 2008 AND SENTENCED ON AUGUST 7, 2009.
00:36:16 THIS WAS FOR YEARS IN PRISON.
00:36:18 WITH THREE YEARS PROBATION OF POLITICAL RIGHTS.
00:36:24 I ALSO FOR BIT HIM TO GO TO THE PRIL OR SPEAK TO INTERNATIONAL MEDIA ABOUT THIS CASE.
00:36:30 HE IS CURRENTLY SERVING HIS PRISON TERMS AT THE PRISON.
00:36:36 FROM THE FIRST PUBLISHED LETTER, MY FAMILY EXPERIENCED THE CONTINUOUSLY HARASSMENT BY POLICE.
00:36:45 OUR LIVES HAVE BEEN TURNED UPSIDE DOWN FOR THE SIMPLE EXPRESSION OF POLITICAL OPINION.
00:36:55 OUR HOME WAS RAIDED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND CONFISCATED OUR COMPUTERS AND SOME OF MY HUSBAND'S MAN SCRIPTS WHICH WERE NEVER RETURNED.
00:37:13 THEY GAVE OUR HOUSE RIGHTS CERTIFICATION.
00:37:17 MY EMPLOYERS TOLD ME THAT THE PUBLIC SECURITY OFFICERS VISIT HIM THREE TIMES AND HE WAS ASKED TO MONITOR MY ACTIVITIES.
00:37:30 I HAD NO OPPORTUNITY TO BE PROMOTE AND MY CAREER ALSO COMES TO THE END.
00:37:36 MY HUSBAND'S ADVOCACY ALSO AFFECTED THE LIFE OF OUR 9-YEAR-OLD SON.
00:37:41 HE IS CONTINUALLY BLAMED BY SOME TEACHERS.
00:37:45 BEFORE HIS FATHER WAS ARRESTED, HE HAD SOME LEADERSHIP POSITION IN HIS CLASS AND IN HIS SCHOOL.
00:37:53 BUT HE HAS BEEN STRIPPED OF THIS.
00:37:59 PREVIOUSLY ACTIVE AND OUTGOING, HE HAS BECOME MORE WITH DRAWN AND LACKING CONFIDENCE.
00:38:04 MY HUSBAND IS INNOCENT.
00:38:05 HE LOVES OUR COUNTRY.
00:38:09 HE IS SAY COLLEGE PROFESSOR WHO THINKS HE HAS A COMMITMENT FOR OUR COUNTRY AND A DEVOTED CHRISTIAN WHOSE CONSCIOUS DWOETS HIM TO RIGHTS AND FREEDOM THAT ARE UNIVERSAL.
00:38:25 FOR THIS HE WAS GIVEN A 10-YEAR PRISON TERM.
00:38:31 THIS IS E GREEJUOUS POLITICAL PERSECUTION.
00:38:34 HIS MOTHER IS ELDERLY AND HIS SON AND I NEED HIM GREATLY.
00:38:39 I CANNOT IMAGINE MY SON NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE HIS FATHER FOR ANOTHER SEVEN YEARS.
00:38:47 I AM VERY GRATEFUL TO CHINA FOR HELPING ME IN THE UNITED STATES TO LIVE IN EXILE.
00:38:52 I APPEALED TO THE U.
00:38:54 S. CONGRESS AND THE U.
00:38:56 S. GOVERNMENT TO HELP REUNITE MY FAMILY AND TO URGE CHINA'S LEADERS TO RELEASE MY HUSBAND IMMEDIATELY.
00:39:06 WITHOUT CONDITION.
00:39:07 AS WELL AS THE MANY OTHER POLITICAL PRISONS WHO ARE PENALIZED FOR SPEAKING OUT.
00:39:15 THANKS BE TO GOD.
00:39:18 THANK YOU ALL.
00:39:19 >> THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US FOR YOUR VERY COURAGEOUS APPEAL ON BEHALF OF YOUR HUSBAND.
00:39:26 I HOPE THAT THE WHITE HOUSE, I HOPE THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE AND I HOPE THAT SHE LISTENING TO THIS APPEAL FOR TWO WIVES, FOR YOUR INDIVIDUAL HUSBANDS AND ALL THE OTHER LEFT BEHIND FAMILY MEMBERS ON BEHALF OF THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS PRISONERS IN CHINA.
00:39:48 THANK YOU FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING STATEMENT.
00:39:49 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK -- >> SORRY.
00:39:54 I ALSO WANT CONGRESS TO KEEP MY HUSBAND'S ARTICLES, THE 347 ARTICLES AND TWO LETTERS TO THE PREMIER.
00:40:08 >> OKAY.
00:40:09 THANK YOU. WE WILL RECEIVE THOSE ARTICLES.
00:40:23 >> THANK YOU.
00:40:24 >>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
00:40:26 I WANT TO THANK THE EXECUTIVE COMMISSION ON CHINA AND IN FACT ALL THE MEMBERS AND STAFF HERE TODAY FOR THE REALLY FABULOUS WORK YOU ARE DOING ON BEHALF OF THE UNITED STATES.
00:40:34 IT IS REAL SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY TO HAVE SUCH SCRUTINY OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS RECORD.
00:40:46 # I WANT TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THIS CASE AND WHY THE CONTINUED DETENTION I HAVE LATD INTERNATIONAL LAW.
00:40:58 I WANT TO REFLECT ON WHY HE IS ONE OF MANY PRISONERS OF CONSCIOUS, HIS CASE IS A BELL WEATHER THAT DESERVES CLOSE ATTENTION.
00:41:09 HE WAS A CHINESE LAWYER WHO RAN A FOUL OF THE GOVERNMENT AFTER HE TOOK ON CASES OF RELIGIOUS MINORITY GROUPS N.
00:41:17 2005, THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN HIS LAW FIRM AND IN AUGUST 2006 THE AUTHORITIES ARRESTED HIM AND ACCUSED HIM OF INSIGHTING SUBVERSION, A CHARGE USED TO SILENCE GOVERNMENT CRITICS.
00:41:33 # THE GOVERNMENT PREVENTED THE FAMILY'S CHOSEN LAWYERS FROM MEETING WITH HIM AND USED THREATS AGAINST HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN.
00:41:41 THE TRIAL LASTED LESS THAN A DAY AND THE GOVERNMENT FAILED TO NOTIFY THE FAMILY OR THEIR CHOSEN COUNCIL OF THE PROCEEDINGS.
00:41:49 ON DECEMBER 26th, 2006, THE BEIJING COURT HANDED DOWN A SUSPENDED THREE-YEAR SENTENCE SUBJECT TO A FIVE-YEAR PROBATIONARY PERIOD.
00:42:11 # >> IN SEPTEMBER OF 2007, HE PUBLICLY CRITICIZED CHINA'S HUMAN RIGHTS RECORD AND IN FEBRUARY OF 2009, THEY ABDUCTED THE HIM AFTER HE SOUGHT ASYLUM IN THE UNITED STATES.
00:42:26 DENIED ACCESS TO A LAWYER, HE WAS HELD IN SECRET FOR MORE THAN A YEAR.
00:42:32 ALTHOUGH HE MYSTERIOUSLY DISAPPEARED, HE DISAPPEARED AGAIN A FEW WEEKS LATER AND HAS NOT BEEN SEEN OR HEART FROM SINCE.
00:42:39 ON NOVEMBER 19th, 2010, THE UN WORKING GROUP, AN INDEPENDENT AND IMPARTIAL FROM CHILE, NORWAY, PAKISTAN, SENEGAL AND UKRAINE ISSUED OPINION NUMBER 26 FINDING HIS ONGOING DETENTION TO BE IN VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW.
00:42:58 AFTER 20 MONTHS WITHOUT CREDIBLE INFORMATION ABOUT HIS WHEREABOUTS AND WELL BEING AND DAYS AFTER THE PERIOD WAS TO END, THE MEDIA ANNOUNCED THAT HE WOULD NOW SERVE HIS THREE-YEAR SENTENCE.
00:43:12 THE GOVERNMENT CLAIMED HE VIOLATED PROBATION AND HE WAS THEREFORE TAKEN TO THE PRISON AND PROMOTE AUTONOMOUS REGION.
00:43:21 PRISON AUTHORITIES TURNED HIS FAMILY AWAY AFTER THEY TRAVELED 22 HOURS BY TRAIN TO SEE HIM AND CLAIMING THAT HE DIDN'T WANT TO SEE HIS FAMILY AND COULD NOT RECEIVE VISITORS IN A THREE-MONTH EDUCATIONAL PERIOD.
00:43:36 NO PARTY HAS BEEN ABLE TO CONFIRM HE IS ALIVE OR AT THAT PRISON.
00:43:42 THE GOVERNMENT'S IMPRISONMENT OF MR.
00:43:46 GAO IS ILLEGAL FOR THREE REASONS.
00:43:50 HE ALREADY SPENT MORE THAN THREE YEARS IN GOVERNMENT CUSTODY SINCE HIS ARREST ON SUBVERSION CHARGES.
00:43:55 QUITE SIMPLY, HE SERVED HIS FULL SENTENCE.
00:43:58 SECOND, THE CHARGES AGAINST MR.
00:44:01 GAO FOR SUBVERSION ARISED OUT OF THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT.
00:44:07 IMPRISONING HIM FOR EXERCISING FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS IS A VIOLATION FOR CHINA'S INTERNATIONAL VIOLATIONS.
00:44:15 FINALLY THE PROSECUTION OF MR.
00:44:17 GAO FAIL FOD MEET STANDARDS FOR DUE PROCESS.
00:44:21 THE GOVERNMENT RELIED ON A FORCED CONFESSION AND DENIED THE RIGHT TO A COUNCIL OF HIS OWN CHOOSING.
00:44:27 IN REVOKING HIS PROBATION, WE SUBSEQUENTLY HAVE SEEN THAT THE GOVERNMENT ACTED WITHOUT LEGAL PROCESS WHATSOEVER YET AGAIN.
00:44:36 WE FILED A PETITION TO THE WORKING GROUP ON ARBITRARY DETENTION AND THEY ARE ALSO IN VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW.
00:44:44 ALTHOUGH HE IS ONE OF MANY CHINESE PRISONERS OF CONSCIOUS, HIS CASE IS AN IMPORTANT BELL WEATHER FOR THREE REASONS.
00:44:51 FIRST HE IS NOT A TRADITIONAL DISSIDENT.
00:44:54 HE IS A LAWYER.
00:44:57 A VAN GARD OF THE RIGHTS DEFENDING MOVEMENT, HE ATTEMPTED TO PROMOTE THE RIGHTS OF HIS CLIENT FROM WORKING WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
00:45:04 HIS CASE SHOWS THE GOVERNMENT'S WILLINGNESS TO PERSECUTE THOSE THAT PROMOTE THE RULE OF LAW FROM WITHIN AND HE IS NOT ALONE.
00:45:11 THE GOVERNMENT HOLES THE PROMINENT LAWYER UNDER STRICT HOUSE ARREST WITH HIS WIFE AND DAUGHTER.
00:45:16 CHEN ALSO A SELF-TRAINED LAWYER ROSE TO PROMINENCE AFTER ORGANIZING A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT EXPOSING ABUSES UNDER THE POLICY.
00:45:28 THE GOVERNMENT IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE TENANTS RIGHTS LAWYER.
00:45:30 SECOND, THE CONTINUED DETENTION OF MR.
00:45:33 GAO IS INSTRUCTIVE BECAUSE IT IS PART OF A LARGER CRACK DOWN WHERE THE GOVERNMENT CONTINUES TO STIFLE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
00:45:40 AS THE AMBASSADOR NOTED, REPRESSION HAS WORSENED SINCE THE UP RISINGS.
00:45:50 IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY, ACTIVISTS ALL RECEIVED LONG SENTENCES OF NINE OR TEN YEARS AND THEY PUT A FOURTH ACTIVIST ON TRIAL.
00:45:59 EACH WAS CHARGED WITH SUBVERSION OR INSIGHTMENT.
00:46:03 THIS LARGER CRACK DOWN WILL ONLY BE EXACERBATED BY THE GOVERNMENT'S MOVES TO POTENTIALLY LEGALIZE DISAPPEARANCES LIKE MR.
00:46:11 GAO'S UNDER CHINESE LAW.
00:46:13 THIS WOULD RENDER THE IDEA MEANINGLESS.
00:46:17 FINALLY MR.
00:46:18 GAO'S CASE IS STRIKING FOR HOW BRAZEN IT HAS BECOME AND HOW IT TRANSPARENTLY LIES.
00:46:27 AFTER THE GOVERNMENT DISAPPEARED MR.
00:46:29 GAO IN 2009, THEY TOLD THE FAMILY THAT HE LOST HIS WAY AND WENT MISSING.
00:46:35 LATER THE FOREIGN MINISTRY SPOKESMAN INDICATED THAT HE WAS WHERE HE SHOULD BE, AN OMINOUS REFERENCE.
00:46:46 HE SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE MR.
00:46:48 GAO WAS AND COULDN'T BE EXPECTED TO KNOW THE WHERE KNOW ABOUTS OF ALL CHINA'S PEOPLE.
00:46:57 THEY PURPORTED TO SHOW HIM ALIVE AND WELL AND HE WAS WEARING A BRACELET GIVEN TO HIM BEFORE SHE AND THEIR SON PETER FLED TO THE UNITED STATES.
00:47:07 AFTER HIS PF POINTED THIS OUT IN AN INTERVIEW, AN UNKNOWN WOMAN TRIED TO STEAL THIS BRACELET FROM HER ON A NEW YORK CITY SUBWAY.
00:47:18 NOW THEY CLAIM THAT THIS LOVE HUSBAND AND FATHER WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE HIS FAMILY.
00:47:26 THIS IS NOTHING SHORT OF SHOCKING AND THE CLAIMS SHOW A TOTAL DISREGARD FOR THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY.
00:47:31 IF THE GOVERNMENT'S LIVES ARE NOT PUBLICLY AND DIRECTLY CONFRONTED, IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO BEIJING THAT RESPECT FOR THE WORLD LAW ARE NO LONGER A PRIORITY.
00:47:41 I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS AND WOULD WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS.
00:47:44 THANK YOU.
00:47:47 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INSIGHTFUL TESTIMONY.
00:47:49 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK PASTOR FOO TO PROCEED.
00:47:54 >> THANK YOU, MR.
00:47:56 CHAIRMAN.
00:47:57 MR.
00:47:58 COCHAIR AND THE HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
00:48:05 THANK YOU FOR THE COMMISSION'S PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND FOR YOUR EXCELLENT WORK IN DOCUMENTING AND PURSUING THIS.
00:48:18 ADMISSION IS TO PROMOTE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A LOVING AND JUST CIVIL SOCIETY IN CHINA THAT ABIDES BY THE RULE OF LAW.
00:48:32 IN PURSUIT OF THIS MISSION AND OUT OF PROFOUND RESPECT TO SUPPORT HIS WORK, THEY SPARED NO EFFORT IN LAUNCHING A WORLDWIDE CAMPAIGN AIMING AT GOD'S RELEASE.
00:48:41 OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE EXPANDED HUGE MANPOWER AND FINANCIAL RESOURCES AND MOBILIZING THE EFFORT IN THIS REGARD.
00:48:55 WE ARE LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN DO.
00:48:58 WE KNOW THAT OUR EFFORTS HAVE THE SAME WAY THAT THOSE VOICES AGAINST THE SLAVERY BEFORE THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR EVENTUALLY LED TO THE FULL AWAKENING OF THE FORCES OF JUSTICE.
00:49:15 THREE YEARS AGO, WE SET UP THE WEBSITE TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE PLIGHT AND LAUNCH A WORLDWIDE PETITION ON HIS BEHALF AND WE HAVE COLLECTED OVER 150,000 REAL NAME SIGNATURES FROM 196 COUNTRIES.
00:49:36 AND WE PRINTED OUT THE SIGNATURES TODAY AND WANT TO GIVE THEM AS A RECORD THESE NAMES AND VOICES AND PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN UP FROM SUDAN TO AFGHANISTAN.
00:49:59 FROM SOUTH AFRICA TO NORWAY.
00:50:01 FROM CHINA TO AMERICA.
00:50:04 150,000 PEOPLE OF CONSCIOUS COMING FROM VARIOUS BACKGROUNDS AND POLITICAL SYSTEMS AND FAMILY BACKGROUNDS OF DIFFERENT OCCUPATIONS AND OF ALL AGES HAVE SIGNED THIS PETITION.
00:50:15 FOR MORE THAN THREE YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING NIGHT AND DAY.
00:50:22 WE HAVE NEVER STOPPED ASKING WHERE HE IS AND HOW HE IS DOING.
00:50:27 I MYSELF HAVE TRAVELED ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES AND TO EUROPE MANY TIMES CALLING FOR GAO'S RELEASE.
00:50:36 UNFORTUNATELY THE SITUATION IS GETTING WORSE.
00:50:38 WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A WAY OF CONFIRMING THAT HE IS STILL ALIVE TODAY.
00:50:44 OUR FEARS GROW WITH EACH PASSING DAY.
00:50:47 WE EARNESTLY HOPE THAT THE FREE WESTERN WORLD WILL ABANDON THE SO-CALLED ACQUIRED DIPLOMACY AND TO SPEAK UP TO A COUNTRY THAT IS A SIGNATURE TO A UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE POLITICAL RIGHTS TO ABIDE BY BOTH OF THESE DOMESTIC LAWS LAZ AS INTERNATIONAL LAWS AND TO ABOLISH THE USE OF TORTURE AND IMMEDIATELY RELEASE HIM AND STOP PERSECUTING HIS FAMILY BECAUSE OF HIM.
00:51:24 CHINA SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS CASE.
00:51:28 IN A RECENT VISIT TO THE UNITED STATES, THE NEXT LEADER OF CHINA, WE ARE FILLED ONCE MORE WITH HOPE.
00:51:37 HOPING THAT THESE MEETINGS BETWEEN AMERICA'S TOP LEADERS CAN FACILITATE HIS RELEASE.
00:51:44 WE DO NOT FORGET WITHOUT THE COUNTLESS AMERICAN WHO IS UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF PRESIDENT LINCOLN DIED TO FREE THE BLACK SLAVES AND WITHOUT THE PRICE PAID BY MARTIN LUTHER KING AND HIS SUPPORTERS.
00:51:59 THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRESIDENT IN U.
00:52:03 S. HISTORY WOULD NOT BE SITTING IN THE WHITE HOUSE TODAY.
00:52:07 THIS GLORIOUS HISTORY REMINDS US THAT THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN FREE MUST NOT FORGET THE VIRTUE OF THOSE WHO FOUGHT FOR FREEDOM.
00:52:15 FURTHERMORE, THEY HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO CARRY ON THIS TRANSITION AND TO SHOW COMPASSION AND SUPPORT FOR THOSE AROUND THE WORLD WHO ARE STILL BEING OPPRESSED.
00:52:26 THIS IS THE SPIRIT OF MARTIN LUTHER KING.
00:52:29 IT IS A NOBLE REASON THAT SHOULD COMPEL US TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR THIS.
00:52:35 MR.
00:52:36 CHAIRMAN, I WAS VERY MUCH MOVED THIS MORNING BITE ACTIONS OF MY FRIEND, MICHAEL HOROWITZ.
00:52:44 ON BEHALF OF THE SIX PRISONER FAITH AND ALL OTHER CHINESE PRISONERS OF CONSCIOUS, I THINK MR.
00:52:51 HOROWITZ IS HERE TODAY.
00:52:54 I WAS ESPECIALLY MOVED BY HIS EFFORT TO CAUSE THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO DEAL WITH THE HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUES WITH THE PRIORITY ATTENTION THAT SUCH LEADERS AS PRESIDENT REAGAN AND THE LATE TOMULANTOS GIVE IT.
00:53:08 MY CALL WAS ARRESTED IN FRONT OF THE WHITE HOUSE THIS MORNING FOR ENGAGING IN QUIET AND RESPECTFUL DEMONSTRATION.
00:53:19 AS I SAW THE POLICE PLACE HANDCUFFS ON HIM AND DRIVE HIM AWAY IN A SQUAD CAR, I REALIZED HOW GREAT AMERICA'S HEART CAN BE.
00:53:28 I ALSO REALIZED THE GREAT THINGS THAT AMERICA'S FRIENDS OF FREEDOM CAN DO FOR OPPRESSED PEOPLE IN CHINA AND ELSEWHERE.
00:53:37 BEFORE HIS ARREST, HE PREPARED A STATEMENT WHICH I HOPE CAN ENTER INTO THE RECORD.
00:53:44 AS YOU KNOW MICHAEL PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN WORKING WITH YOU, MR.
00:53:49 CHAIRMAN.
00:53:50 WITH CONGRESSMAN WOLF AND OTHERS ON SUCH LEGISLATION AS THE INTERNATIONAL RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ACT AND THE NORTH KOREA HUMAN RIGHTS ACT.
00:53:58 HIS STATEMENT REFLECTS A GREAT UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT TOMORROWED AMERICA CAN DO THROUGH PEACEFUL MEANS TO MAKE CHINA AND THE WORTH A BETTER AND SAFER PLACE.
00:54:12 LET ME CONCLUDE WITH THE WORDS OF PRELIMINARY HIMSELF.
00:54:15 IF AMERICA IS TO BE A GREAT NATION, THIS MUST BECOME TRUE.
00:54:20 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:54:23 . >> PASTOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:54:25 WITHOUT OBJECTION YOUR REQUEST TO INCLUDE THE STATEMENT BY MICHAEL HOROWITZ FROM THE HUDSON INSTITUTE WILL BE MADE PART OF THE RECORD.
00:54:33 DO I GREATLY ADMIRE HIS WORK AS WELL ON BEHALF OF HUMAN RIGHTS AND TODAY'S ACTION IS ANOTHER DISCERNIBLE MANIFESTATION OF THAT DEEP CONCERN FOR FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHTS IN CHINA AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.
00:54:46 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.
00:54:48 TO BEGIN THE QUESTIONING, LET ME ASK MS.
00:54:55 HU, IF I COULD, YOU POINT OUT IN YOUR TESTIMONY THAT ZHANG SAID YOU CANNOT BE A HUMAN RIGHTS IN CHINA WITHOUT BEING A RIGHTS CASE YOURSELF.
00:55:08 I WILL SAY THIS AS WELL AS TO MS.
00:55:13 LI AS WELL.
00:55:14 WHEN WE EXPRESS DISSEAFGZ WITH A POLICY OR OUR GOVERNMENT, WE MAY GET AN EDITORIAL THAT IS DAMNING OR SOME UNDER SOME KIND OF PRESS SCRUTINY THAT WE MAY NOT WELCOME, BUT NOTHING, NOTHING THAT EVEN COMES CLOSE TO THE CONSEQUENCES THAT MEN AND WOMEN WHO PROMOTE HUMAN RIGHTS FACE IN CHINA.
00:55:40 I THINK AMERICANS NEED TOO BECOME MUCH MORE AWARE OF THE SYSTEMATIC USE OF TORTURE, THE SYSTEMATIC USE OF -- THERE IS NO TRIALS.
00:55:51 THEY ARE ALL SHOW TRIALS.
00:55:52 THERE IS NO DUE PROCESS OF LAW IN THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA.
00:55:56 IT IS A DICTATORSHIP AND YET BOTH OF YOUR HUSBANDS SPOKE OUT BOLDLY, KNOWING THERE MIGHT BE SEVERE AND LONG LASTING CONSEQUENCES TO THEMSELVES AND TO THEIR FAMILIES.
00:56:10 WHAT MOTIVATES THAT KIND OF COURAGE?
00:56:14 YOU HAVE IT AS WELL.
00:56:15 YOU BEAR THE BRUNT AND THE SCARS OF THE DICTATORSHIP AS WELL.
00:56:26 . >> Translator: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:56:34 >> IF YOU COULD ANSWER, WHY DO THEY DO IT?
00:56:38 WHERE DOES THE COURAGE COME FROM TO SPEAK OUT WHEN THE IRON FIST OF THE SECRET POLICE IS WAITING WITH A BATON AND WITH THE IMPLEMENTS OF TORTURE?
00:56:51 I WOULD NOTE IN THE 1990s, I CHAIRED A HEARINGING IN MY HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE WHERE WE INVITED IS SIX SURVIVORS, ONE A TIBETAN MONK.
00:57:02 THEY BROUGHT IN THE IMPLEMENTS OF TORTURE THAT ARE ROUTINELY USED AGAINST POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS PRISONERS.
00:57:12 YOUR HUSBAND SPOKE OUT.
00:57:13 HOW AND WHY DID HE DO IT?
00:57:22 [ SPEAKING MORN LANGUAGE.
00:57:39 # [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
00:57:46 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
00:57:47 >> Translator: MY HUSBAND GREW UP IN A POOR COUNTRY SIDE AND WHEN HE WAS 8 YEARS OLD HIS FATHER DIED.
00:57:53 HE HOPED HE COULD BRING CHANGE TO CHINA AND ALSO STARTED VERY HARD TO OBTAIN HIS LAW DEGREE AND HOPED TO USE THE LAW TO HELP MORE PEOPLE IN CHINA.
00:58:05 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
00:58:19 >> Translator: HE WAS VERY HAPPY TO USE HIS KNOWLEDGE IN THE CHINESE SYSTEM TO HELP THE PEOPLE.
00:58:26 HE DID IT PRO BONO.
00:58:30 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
00:58:44 >> Translator: HE SUCCESSFULLY HANDLED A CASE AND ACTUALLY HELD THE VICTIMS GUN ABOUT 800,000 REWARDS BASED ON THESE REWARDS.
00:58:57 AFTER THIS SUCCESSFUL CASE, MANY PEOPLE IN CHINA COME UP TO HIM TO SEEK LEGAL SUPPORT.
00:59:08 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
00:59:34 >> Translator: ACTUALLY THIS ONE CASE, ONE PEOPLE TRAVELED MORE THAN 1,000 MILES IN ORDER TO SEEK A LAWYER'S HELP.
00:59:47 THE LAWYER'S ASSISTANT IMMEDIATELY PROVIDED ME HELP TO SETTLE DOWN AND THEY TALKED ABOUT THE CASE AND DISCUSSED THE CASE IMMEDIATELY.
00:59:57 EACH TIME THE LAWYER GOT THESE PEOPLE, THEY REMINDED HIM THAT HIS MOTHER ACTUALLY ALSO WAS HELPING PEOPLE WHILE SHE HERSELF WAS IN DIFFICULT CONDITIONS.
01:00:13 >> MS.
01:00:20 LI?
01:00:21 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
01:00:50 >> Translator: SO THE LAWYER HAS DONE SO MANY GOOD THINGS IN CHINA AND ACTUALLY HE STILL FACED SEVERE PERSECUTION AND EVEN MY FAMILY SUFFERED A LOT FROM IT AND MY DAUGHTER HAD TO TAKE THE BUS TO GO TO SCHOOL IN THE CLASS.
01:01:08 THE POLICE SIT BEHIND HER AND ALMOST 24-HOUR SURVEILLANCE FOR HER.
01:01:15 WHEN WE ARRIVED IN THE UNITED STATES, THE FIRST THING MY DAUGHTER DIDN'T CHOOSE TO GO TO THE SCHOOL.
01:01:21 SHE CHOSE TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL BECAUSE SHE SUFFERED MENTALLY.
01:01:27 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
01:01:37 >> Translator: MY CHILDREN AND I SUPPORT THE LAWYER WHOLE HEARTEDLY BECAUSE WHAT HE DID IS RIGHT AND WE BELIEVE IN RIGHTEOUS POWER IN THE WORLD.
01:01:48 >> Translator: THANK YOU.
01:01:52 >> I THINK FOR MY HUSBAND, FIRSTLY.
01:01:57 WE ARE A CHRISTIAN FAMILY.
01:01:58 THE KEY WORDS IN THE BIBLE, LOVE.
01:02:02 I THINK IT'S NOT JUST A FEELING, BUT IT'S A COMMITMENT.
01:02:08 FOR MY HUSBAND, HE THINKS HE NEEDS TO HELP THE POOR PEOPLE TO HAVE A VOICE.
01:02:23 SO HE DID THAT.
01:02:27 AFTER THE FIRST PERSECUTION AND FOR HIM AND HE STARTED TO THINK, WHY THEY CAN TREAT HIM LIKE THIS?
01:02:37 IT'S BECAUSE THE ONLY ONE PARTY.
01:02:44 # HE STARTED THINKING OVER THIS MATTER.
01:02:55 >> WITHOUT THE DIVISION OF POWER AND WITHOUT CHECKS AND BALANCES -- >> THEY CAN DO EVERYTHING THEY WANT.
01:03:03 THEY START TO POST DEMOCRACY IN CHINA.
01:03:10 AND EVERY TIME WHEN I SEE HIM IN PRISON, HE ALWAYS TOLD ME I'M NOT WRONG.
01:03:19 ACTUALLY IF HE PROMISED, HE WILL NOT CONTINUE TO WRITE WHEN HE GETS OUT.
01:03:27 MAYBE THE GOVERNMENT WILL RELEASE HIM FASTER, BUT HE ALWAYS SAID NO.
01:03:33 I'M NOT WRONG.
01:03:34 >> THANK YOU.
01:03:38 OUT OF LOVE IS BASED ON A FAITH-BASED CONVICTION WHICH IS AN ENORMOUS MOTIVATOR.
01:03:44 THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.
01:03:48 EVEN PEOPLE WITH FAITH THAT POWERED HIM TO FIGHT FOR SOLIDARITY IN POLL ANT AND WE KNOW THROUGHOUT CHINA PEOPLE OF FAITH ARE BEING PAID A SIGNIFICANT PRICE.
01:04:00 I THANK YOU FOR GIVING AN INSIGHT AS TO WHY.
01:04:03 I WANT TO ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BEFORE YIELDING TO MY FRIEND AND MR.
01:04:12 WOLF, IN YOUR TESTIMONY, YOU MADE THE STATEMENT THAT IT'S NO SMALL IRONY THAT WHILE YOU ARE SPEAKING HERE ON CAPITOL HILL, CHINESE VICE PRESIDENT IS JUST ON PENNSYLVANIA MEETING WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
01:04:30 YOU DID POINT OUT YOUR DISAPPOINTMENT THAT YOU BELIEVE THAT YOUR HUSBAND'S PLIGHT HAS BEEN DOWNPLAYED BY THE WHITE HOUSE AND I WOULD SAY FOR THE RECORD, I WANT THIS CLEAR.
01:04:41 I HAVE BEEN IN CONGRESS 32 YEARS.
01:04:43 MR.
01:04:44 WOLF AND I HAVE BEEN.
01:04:45 WE HAVE NEVER SAW HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE AS PARTISAN ISSUES.
01:04:51 GEORGE BUSH WAS DROPPING THE BALL AS WE THOUGHT HE WAS DOING ESPECIALLY IN THE RUN UP TO THE OLYMPICS WITH REGARD TO HUMAN RIGHTS IN CHINA AND SPOKE OUT VERY, VERY LOUDLY AND WENT BEFORE THE OLYMPICS TO RAISE INDIVIDUAL CASES AND SET UP A MEETING WITH THE WHITE HOUSE WITH SIX DISSIDENTS BEFORE BUSH WENT THERE INCLUDING HARRY WU AND OTHERS TO ENSURE THE HUMAN RIGHTS FOCUS NEVER LEFT.
01:05:15 I HAVE BEEN CONCERNED AND I SAY THIS AND I KNOW IT IS SHARED BY MANY OTHERS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN INDIFFERENT TO A LARGE EXTENT, RELYING ON LOWER LEVEL DIALOGUES AND CONVERSATIONS AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THAT QUIET DIPLOMACY IS ANOTHER NAME FOR INDIFFERENCE.
01:05:37 THIS NEEDS TO BE RAISED AND SAID IN MY OPENING, THERE WASN'T ONE PUBLIC EXPRESSION BY PRESIDENT OBAMA ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS AND THERE HE WAS MEETING WITH THE CAPTOR AND THE JAILOR WHO GOT THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE AND PRESIDENT OBAMA GOT IT ONE YEAR BEFORE.
01:05:59 THE WIVES MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS, BUT MAYBE THE OTHER DISTINGUISHED LEADERS HERE.
01:06:06 I THINK MS.
01:06:07 LI, YOU MADE A VERY PROFOUND INSIGHT WHERE YOU SAID WITHOUT U.
01:06:11 S. LEADERSHIP ON HUMAN RIGHTS, FEW IN BEIJING WILL BE LISTENING.
01:06:17 UN CERTAINLY HAS NOT RAISED ITS VOICE IN ANY REASONABLE OR POWERFUL WAY.
01:06:22 THE U.S. NEEDS TO BE THE TO DO IT AND YOU SAID ONLY THE UNITED STATES CAN MAKE THIS CASE TO CHINA.
01:06:32 IF EITHER OF THE TWO GENTLEMEN OR THE TWO WIVES MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT.
01:06:38 HOW WOULD YOU RATE HOW WE ARE DOING AND HOW THE WHITE HOUSE IS DOING?
01:06:41 IT SEEMS THIS IS ON A BACK BURNER IF EVEN THAT.
01:06:54 >> I WILL BEGIN BY SAYING I AM EXPRESSING DISAPPOINTMENT.
01:07:01 IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT DIDN'T MEET ANY HUMAN RIGHTS VICTIMS OR THEIR FAMILY.
01:07:09 WHILE WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT THE SECRETARY OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN REPEATEDLY AND PERSUASIVELY RELENTLESS HIMSELF, THE ONLY WAY WE WILL SEE MOVEMENT IS BY HAVING THE HIGHEST LEVEL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ENGAGE WITH THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT.
01:07:28 I WOULD SUBMIT THAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY IN THE AUDIENCE SOMEONE WHO I REPRESENTED FOR FIVE YEARS AND WHO CONGRESSMAN SMITH AND WOLF.
01:07:39 >> CAN HE STAND TO BE RECOGNIZED?
01:07:42 WE ALL KNOW HIM.
01:07:46 >> CONGRESS MEN SMITH AND WOLF.
01:07:48 PRESIDENT BUSH RAISED THE CASE TWICE AND SECRETARY DE VRIES RAISED IT TWICE AND SECRETARY POWELL RAISED IT ONCE.
01:07:56 THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HAD TO BE RELENTLESS.
01:07:59 WITHOUT THAT DIRECT ENGAGEMENT, WE WON'T SEE THE RELEASE OF PEOPLE.
01:08:03 WHAT I WOULD SAY IS I AM ALL FOR QUIET DIPLOMACY IF IT WORKED.
01:08:08 I DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO SPEAK OUT IN THE SAME WAY.
01:08:11 IF IT'S NOT WORKING, WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR STRATEGY.
01:08:20 >> I AGREE WITH MR.
01:08:23 CHAIRMAN ON YOUR OVERALL ASSESSMENT AND THE PAST THREE WEEKS.
01:08:30 THE INDIFFERENCE ON THE DIPLOMACY.
01:08:33 OBVIOUSLY THIS ADMINISTRATION TOOK THE HUMAN RIGHTS AND ESPECIALLY RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ON THE BACK SEAT FROM DAY ONE.
01:08:52 AFTER TWO YEARS, THERE WAS NOT, THE AMBASSADOR AT LARGE WAS NOT EVEN APPOINTED.
01:09:04 THE FIRST OFFICIAL VISIT WAS NOT MET WITH THE COURTESY OF ASSISTANCE AND THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT AND I SUSPECT THIS DEPARTMENT OR THE WHITE HOUSE.
01:09:28 I THINK THEY HAVE DONE ANYTHING TO PROTEST THIS INSULT.
01:09:38 BY REFUSING A PRESIDENTIAL APPOINTEE AND AMBASSADOR TO VISIT HER COUNTERPART IN CHINA.
01:09:47 ALMOST A SELF HUMILIATING ATTITUDE CERTAINLY EMBOLDENED THE DICTATOR'S PERSECUTION AND INDIRECTLY AND INCREASING AND ACTION AGAINST THE HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES IN CHINA.
01:11:03 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ] >> FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS, THE POSITION OF MY HUSBAND IS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE.
01:11:11 I STRONGLY REQUEST HIGH LEVEL LEADERS IN THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT AND I FEEL IT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS CASE IS CRITICAL AND CRITICAL FOR BREAKING THROUGH THE CURRENT SITUATIONS BECAUSE LIKE LAST YEAR, CHINA ARRESTED MANY HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYERS AND ACTUALLY THEY TOLD THEM AND YOU PROBABLY KNOW HIM, BUT SO WHAT.
01:11:41 YOU KNOW HER?
01:11:42 SHE PROBABLY WENT TO A WAREHOUSE THERE.
01:11:44 SO WHAT.
01:11:45 WE CAN STILL -- THEY CAN DISAPPEAR AND WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
01:11:52 THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD THE HUMAN RIGHTS LAWYER BEING ARRESTED.
01:12:04 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ] >> Translator: RIGHT NOW IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET ANY LAWYERS TO HELP EVEN IF WE ARE WILLING TO PAY.
01:12:10 NO LAWYERS CAN TAKE THE CASE.
01:12:12 [ SPOKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
01:12:19 >> Translator: NOWADAYS THE LAWYER IN CHINA PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE CASE BECAUSE THEY KNOW IF THIS CASE CAN HAVE ANY IMPROVEMENT, THE SITUATION MAY BE DIFFERENT.
01:12:31 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
01:12:35 >> Translator: I REALLY WISH I CAN HAVE AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE LEADERS IN THE UNITED STATES SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS CASE FORWARD.
01:12:41 >> YOU HAVE TRIED AND THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN BACK TO YOU, INCLUDING VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN?
01:12:49 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
01:12:53 >> Translator: YES, WE TRIED TO CONTACT THEIR LAWYERS, BUT NO RESPONSE YET.
01:13:00 >> LET ME CHAIRIFY WE DID HEAR FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT WITH IT SECRETARY CLINTON AND OFFERED A MEETING WITH SECRETARY POSENER AND WE HAVE BEEN OFFERED A MEETING WHICH WE WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE, BUT WE GOT NO RESPONSE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
01:13:14 WE SENT IN A RESPONSE TO THE SCHEDULER AND NUMEROUS STAFF AND THE VICE PRESIDENT'S OFFICE SEVERAL TIMES AND GOT NO RESPONSE, NOT EVEN A SORRY, WE CAN'T MEET YOU.
01:13:26 >> DISAPPOINTING TO SAY THE LEAST.
01:13:29 WHEN YOU JUXTAPOSE WITH THE VICE PRESIDENT'S STATEMENT IN CHINA WHEN TALKING ABOUT THE HORRIFIC ONE-CHILD PER COUPLE POLICY AND THE RELIANCE ON FORCED ABORTION AND HE SAID I'M NOT GOING TO SECOND-GUESS THE POLICY AND THEN SENT AN E-MAIL TO A GROUP THAT HE IS NOT REALLY FOR THE POLICY AND THE DAMAGE WAS DONE.
01:13:54 THOSE WORDS DO MATTER AND MEETING WITH INDIVIDUALS AND GETTING FULLY INFORMED ABOUT THE PLIGHT OF THE WIVES AND THEIR HUSBANDS, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A MEETING THAT WAS SOUGHT AFTER BY THE VICE PRESIDENT AND THE PRESIDENT'S OFFICE, NOT DECLINED.
01:14:09 I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD TO CHAIRMAN FRANK WOLF.
01:14:15 >> THANK YOU, MR.
01:14:17 SMITH.
01:14:18 I THINK THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN A TOTAL FAILURE AND QUITE FRANKLY, I THINK THE GROUPS AROUND THIS COUNTRY SHOULD KNOW THIS AND NOT PRETEND IT IS NOT TRUE.
01:14:33 CHRISTIANS IN EGYPT SHOULD KNOW THIS ADMINISTRATION FAILED THEM.
01:14:37 IRAQY AND SYRIANS SHOULD KNOW THIS ADMINISTRATION FAILED THEM.
01:14:42 THE VIETNAMESE IN VIETNAM, BOTH BUDDHISTS AND CATHOLICS OUGHT TO KNOW THIS ADMINISTRATION FAILED THEM.
01:14:53 THE CATHOLIC BISHOPS IN CHINA AND THE HOUSE CHURCH LEADER IN CHINA SHOULD KNOW THIS ADMINISTRATION FAILED THEM.
01:15:02 THE DALAI LAMA OUGHT TO KNOW THIS ADMINISTRATION FAILED THEM.
01:15:07 BUDDHIST MONKS AND NUNS SET THEMSELVES A NAME.
01:15:13 I WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO THIS AND I DID NOT KNOW YOU HAD MADE A REQUEST.
01:15:18 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK BOTH OF THE WIVES IF THEY WOULD SAY PUBLICLY, I SEE THE MEDIA HERE LOOKING, BUT WHAT WOULD YOU SAY BECAUSE THERE IS STILL AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET AFTER THE VICE PRESIDENT FROM CHINA LEAVES.
01:15:36 WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IF YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA AND SHAME ON THEM BOTH IF THEY DO NOT MEET.
01:15:45 SHAME ON THEM BOTH IF THEY DO NOT MEET! YOU KNOW THAT PRESIDENT REAGAN WOULD HAVE MET WITH YOU AND YOU KNOW PRESIDENT CLINTON WOULD HAVE MET WITH YOU.
01:15:53 YOU KNOW PRESIDENT BUSH WOULD HAVE MET WITH YOU.
01:15:56 YOU KNOW PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER WOULD HAVE MET WITH YOU.
01:15:59 SHAME ON THEM IF THEY DO.
01:16:01 MAYBE THEY WON'T.
01:16:03 THIS MAY BE THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY.
01:16:04 WHAT WOULD BOTH OF THE WIVES WANT TO SAY IF THEY WERE TALKING TO PRESIDENT OBAMA AND VICE PRESIDENT BUSH?
01:16:17 [ SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]
01:16:34 . >> IF I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET PRESIDENT OBAMA AND VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, I WOULD SAY MY HUSBAND IS A GOOD PEOPLE AND ALWAYS DID GOOD DEEDS.
01:16:45 WHAT HE HAD DONE IN CHINA IS ABIDE WITH THE WORLD AND STAND UP FOR INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS.
01:16:54 WHY IN CHINA HE HAS TO BE PERSECUTE AND WHY HE HAD TO BE SUFFERING FOR ALL KINDS OF TORTURE.
01:17:01 PLEASE HELP RELEASE HIM IMMEDIATELY.
01:17:16 >> IF I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO PRESIDENT OBAMA, I WANTED TO SAY MY HUSBAND IS INNOCENT.
01:17:28 BECAUSE OF THE LOVE, HE DID SOME THINGS, BUT IT'S THE WAY TO SHOW HOW HE LOVE THIS IS COUNTRY.
01:17:45 SO PLEASE HELP.
01:17:51 >> THANK YOU.
01:17:52 >> THANK YOU.
01:17:53 LET ME ASK OUR WITNESSES IF THERE IS ANYTHING FURTHER.
01:17:56 DO YOU WANT TO PERHAPS TOUCH ON WHAT THE UN IS DOING OR NOT DOING?
01:18:01 THE U.S. DOES PLAY THE LEAD, BUT CERTAINLY THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OTHER PARLIAMENTS AND LAWMAKERS AND LEADERS OUGHT TO BE RAISING THEIR VOICES ON BEHALF OF THE DISAPPEARED AND THE PERSECUTED LEADERS OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS MOVEMENT IN CHINA.
01:18:17 >> LET ME SAY BRIEFLY THAT THE UN IS NOT GAUGING ON A FEW CASES.
01:18:23 THE HIGH COMMISSION IS TRYING TO GO TO CHINA AND SEEMS UNLIKELY IT WILL HAPPEN.
01:18:28 CLEARLY SHE SHOULD GO AND NEEDS TO RAISE HER VOICE.
01:18:31 SHE HAS TO HER CREDIT RAISED HER VOICE LOUDLY, BUT THE UN FRANKLY NEEDS TO DO A LOT MORE.
01:18:40 HER CASE GOT A LOT OF ATTENTION INTERNATIONALLY AND RAISED THE CASE IN THE PARLIAMENT ALL-AROUND THE WORLD.
01:18:48 LOTS OF DIFFERENT CONTEXTS.
01:18:49 THERE IS A LOT OF SUPPORT.
01:18:52 BUT I WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT HER CHILDREN LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES NOW.
01:18:58 THEY HAVE PROTECTION FROM THE UNITED STATES.
01:19:00 THIS GIVE THIS IS CASE IN PARTICULAR A SPECIAL CONNECTION TO OUR COUNTRY.
01:19:05 WE HAVE GIVEN THEM ASYLUM STATUS AND THEY HAVE RESIDUAL STATUS BASED ON FAMILY STATUS.
01:19:13 IF WE CAN REAPPEAR HIM AND HE IS WILLING TO GO, HE CAN BE FREE AND LIVE HIS WITH HIS FAMILY.
01:19:20 WE NEED THE UNITED STATES TO RECOGNIZE THE SPECIAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TAKEN ON TO OUR GREAT CREDIT AS A COUNTRY TO HIM AND HIS FAMILY AND RAISE THE CASE ON THE HIGHEST LEVELS.
01:19:33 MY BIGGEST FEAR ABOUT THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT OR SECRETARY OF STATE NOT MEETING HIM AND HIS WIFE IS NOT EXCLUSIVELY ABOUT THE OPTICS OF THAT MEETING TAKING PLACE AND THE MESSAGE IT SENDS TO THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT.
01:19:49 MY BIGGEST FEAR IS THAT THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT REPEATEDLY AND PUBLICLY LIED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON AND THE UNITED STATES AND OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE NOT PUBLICLY RESPONDED BY SAYING YOU ARE LYING.
01:20:00 YOU ARE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH.
01:20:03 WE HAVE TO SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER AND TELL THE WORLD WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING WITH THIS PERSON'S SITUATION.
01:20:42 >> I WAS -- I WAS GLAD TO HEAR THAT HE HAD MADE SOME VERY STRAIGHT FORWARD EFFORT TO PURSUE THE WHEREABOUTS WHEN HE WAS MISSING.
01:21:02 ON THE OTHER HAND I HOPE THAT THE UNITED STATES EMBASSY OR CONSULATE CAN SEND A DIPLOMAT IF NOT THE AMBASSADOR HIMSELF TO GO TO THE PRISON AND TO VERIFY AND ASK THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT TO ACCEPT A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS.
01:21:27 THE PROBLEM IS WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER HE'S ARK LIVE OR NOT.
01:21:43 THE POLICY CANNOT WORK ANYMORE.
01:21:49 I REMEMBERED IN 2 THOUSAND005 WHEN ONE OF THE PASTORS WAS ABOUT TO BE SENTENCED TO 15 YEARS IN PRISON FOR PRINTING BIBLES, ACCORDING TO THE LAWYERS WE HAD THE KNOWLEDGE WITH THE COURT.
01:22:04 IT WAS WHEN THAT NEWS CAME OUT AND I COMMUNICATED WITH THE NATIONAL SECURITY BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND PRESIDENT BUSH WAS ON THE WAY TO VISIT BEIJING.
01:22:15 ON HIS STOP HE MADE A POINTED SPEECH AND SPECIFICALLY MENTIONING ABOUT THAT CASE.
01:22:29 AND ATTORNEY WAS ONE OF THE PASTOR'S ATTORNEYS AT THAT TIME.
01:22:34 HE WAS LATER SENTENCED TO THREE YEARS IMPROVENMENT.
01:22:54 ESPECIALLY, WITH THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID, WHEN HE VISITED CHINA, THAT ONE MORNING, I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM SOME LAWYERS AND THEY SAID THEY HEARD THE PRESIDENT IS WITHOUTING TO MEET WITH THEM.
01:23:08 SO THEY WERE WAITING OUTSIDE THE EMBASSY COMPOUND.
01:23:13 SO I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH CONSULATE GENERAL OR DEPUTY GENERAL CONSULATE IN THE U.
01:23:24 S. EMBASSY AND COORDINATING AND THE THEY ASKED ME TO JUST WAIT AND CALL BACK.
01:23:32 AND I WAS WAITING FOR HALF AN HOUR LATER, INSTEAD OF THE U.
01:23:43 S. CONSULATE OR COMING OUT TO VISIT THEM, A GROUP OF LAWYERS, INCLUDING THE ATTORNEY THAT WAS LATER KIDNAPPED AND TORTURED AND THEY WERE MET BY OVER 200 CHINESE MILITARY POLICE AND THEY WERE ROUNDED UP AND THE PRESIDENT THE GREAT WALL AND I WAS TOLD BY THE CONSULATE THAT LATER, BECAUSE THERE'S NO GUARANTEE FOR THE PRESIDENT'S SECURITY HE COULD NOT MEET WITH THESE LAWYERS OUTSIDE OF THE COMPOUND OF THE U.
01:24:22 S. EMBASSY.
01:24:23 WHAT A SIGNAL YOU WANT TO SEND TO THESE CHINESE DICTATORS.
01:24:28 I THINK THAT CERTAINLY EMBOLDENED THEM AND MADE THEIR RECORD WORSE.
01:24:34 >> I WILL POINT OUT, THE SIGNALS OF INDIFFERENCE AND, REALLY, BEING UNINFORMED ABOUT HOW POWERFUL IF USED, THE LEVERAGE AND THE VOICE OF THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT AND SECRETARY OF STATE, COULD ACTUALLY BE IN GETTING OUT OF PRISON WHO ARE SUFFERING UNJUSTLY AND I REMEMBER WHEN THE SECRETARY OF STATE WAS IN ROUTE TO BEIJING OR CHINA FOR HER FIRST VISIT AND SHE SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW HUMAN RIGHTS TO INTERFERE WITH PEDALING U.
01:25:07 S. DEBT AND GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE.
01:25:09 THAT THROUGH THE DISSIDENTS UNDER THE BUS AND ANY AMOUNT OF REPAIRIVE STATEMENTS THEY WERE MADE CERTAINOUSLY DOESN'T UNDO THE DAMAGE IN TERMS OF WHAT'S IN THE HEART.
01:25:19 MY HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION WILL SEE THAT THEY ARE DOING THE CAUSE OF DEMOCRACY AND THE INDIVIDUALS WHO SUFFER FOR IT, A GRAVE INJUSTICE BY ITS INDIFFERENCE AND WRONG SIGNALS.
01:25:31 AND I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION, HOW WILL CHINA EVER MATRICULATE FROM DICTATORSHIP TO DEMOCRACY IF ALL THE LAWYERS LIKE THIS AND OTHERS, WHO MIGHT GO THAT ROUTE BUT IT DOES HAVE A CHILLING EFFECT ON WHAT THEY MIGHT DO IF THEY KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE MEETING WITH TORTURE AND DISAPPEARANCE AND THE SAME WITH MRS.
01:25:52 LEE AND HER HUSBAND.
01:25:53 THE INTELLECTUALS, THE PROFESSORS, KNOWING THAT THEY, TOO -- WE NEED TO STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE OPPRESSED NOT WITH THE OPPRESSOR AND REGRETFULLY, WE'RE DOING OPPOSITE.
01:26:08 CHAIRMAN WOLF, ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
01:26:11 >> I'LL ASK OUR DISTINGUISHED WITNESSS IF YOU HAVE ANY FINAL COMMENTS?
01:26:14 THE FINAL WORDS TO OUR TWO DISTINGUISHED WIVES THAT ARE HERE, VERY, VERY STRONG AND BRAVE WOMEN AND WE THANK THEM, ESPECIALLY, FOR THEIR TESTIMONY.
01:26:22 PASTOR FU, ANYTHING?
01:26:28 >> I THINK REAL CHANGE WILL DEPEND ON TWO FACTORS.
01:26:31 THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IS, OF COURSE, FROM INSIDE CHINA.
01:26:36 I THINK, DESPITE OF THE INCREASING PERSECUTION AND, PERHAPS, THE WORST IN TWO DECADES, THAN LAST YEAR, WE STILL ARE HOPEFUL.
01:26:49 WE'RE STILL SEEING SOME SIGNS.
01:26:53 IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF THE -- ANY RELAXATION.
01:26:57 THE TOTALITARIAN REGIME, BUT I THINK BECAUSE THE GROWING RICE AWARENESS AND CONSCIOUSNESS BY THE CHINESE PEOPLE.
01:27:09 LOOK AT WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO THE VILLAGE IN THE PROVINCE AND 50,000 PEOPLE, WHEN THEY WERE UNITED AND THEY WERE ABLE TO WIN THE FIGHT, AT LEAST TEMPORARILY, THEY WERE ALLOWED TO HAVE THEIR FIRST FREELY AND DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTION AND ELECT THEIR OWN HE'DERS IN THAT 50,000-PEOPLE VILLAGE.
01:27:36 IT'S A SMALL STAFF, A BABY STAFF, BUT IT SHOWS THE PEOPLE'S POWER.
01:27:41 I THINK THOUSANDS OF -- OR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CHINESE PETITIONERS, IN SPITE OF THE JAILS AND IMPRISONMENT, ARBITRARY ARRESTS AND TORTURE, THEY ARE STILL ORGANIZED AND THEY WENT TO THE CHINESE LEADERSHIP COMPOUND IN BEIJING AND HUNDREDS OF HOUSE CHURCH MEMBERS LIKE THE BEIJING HOUSE CHURCH, IN THE PAST, ALMOST TEN MONTHS, SINCE APRIL OF LAST YEAR, EVERY SUNDAY, EVERY SUNDAY IN THE CAPITAL CITY OF BEIJING, THEIR ARREST FROM 20 TO OVER 100 MEMBER OF THIS CHURCH WERE ARRESTED FOR SIMPLY GOING OUTDOORS FOR WORSHIP.
01:28:27 AND ALL THE LEADERS INCLUDING THE SENIOR PASTOR AND ALL THEIR FIVE ELDERS HAD BEEN UNDER HOUSE ARREST WITHOUT ANY FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT.
01:28:38 BUT THE MEMBERS ARE STILL GOING THERE EVERY SUNDAY, KNOWING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ARRESTED.
01:28:46 I THINK THESE ARE THE HOPEFUL SIGNS WE SHOULD COUNT ON.
01:28:49 OF COURSE, I THINK THAT THE SECONDARY -- THE CONTRIBUTION FOR CHINA'S DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM IS OUTSIDE.
01:28:58 IT'S EXTERNALLY.
01:29:00 I THINK WE NEED THE EXTERNAL AID.
01:29:03 I THINK THE PERSECUTED PEOPLE WILL BE GREATLY ENCOURAGED AND THEIR MORAL WOULD BE GREATLY BOOSTED IF THEY HEAR FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TELL THE CHINESE DICTATORS THAT CLEARLY, AND UNWAIVERING, WE'RE WITH YOU.
01:29:24 WE'RE WITH THE PERSECUTED INSTEAD OF THE PERSECUTORS.
01:29:30 >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE THREE BRIEF CLOSING COMMENTS.
01:29:33 THE FIRST IS TO EMPHASIZE THE POINT MR.
01:29:35 CHAIRMAN YOU MADE EARLIER.
01:29:37 IT NEEDS TO BE EMPHASIZED.
01:29:39 THIS IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE.
01:29:44 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THERE'S BIPARTISAN SMORT TO SKEEP PRESSURE ON THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT TO IMPROVE THE HUMAN RIGHTS SITUATION IN THE COUNTRY.
01:29:51 THIS IS A CORE VALUE OF THE COUNTRY ON WHICH THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT UPON AND FOR US AS A COUNTRY WE NEED TO STAY TRUE TO OUR FUNDAMENTAL VALUES.
01:29:58 SECOND, I WANTED TO SAY THAT TO THE ADMINISTRATION, THAT THERE'S NEVER A WRONG TIME TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
01:30:05 AND FRANKLY, IT'S NOT TOO LATE.
01:30:07 WE MAY BE DISAPPOINTED.
01:30:09 I PERSONALLY AM DISAPPOINTED THAT WE DID NOT GET THIS MEETINGS THAT WE WANTED.
01:30:15 BUT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY AT THIS MOMENT TO TURN THE SHIP AROUND OR TO, AT LEAST, CHANGE IT'S COURSE AND TO RECOGNIZE THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, ANY ADMINISTRATION, I BELIEVE, SHOULD BE MEASURED BY RESULTS AND NOT BY EFFORT.
01:30:26 I DON'T CARE HOW HARD ANY ADMINISTRATION TRIES I CARE ABOUT WHAT THEY ACHIEVE AND I THINK IT'S QUITE CLEAR REGARDLESS OF EFFORTS BEING MADE AND WE MIGHT DISAGREE ON HOW STRONG THE EFFORTS ARE, THE RESULTS AREN'T THERE YET.
01:30:37 AND AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU NEED TO CHANGE YOUR TACTICS IF YOU WANT THE RESULTS BECAUSE CLEARLY, THIS APPROACH IS NOT WORKING.
01:30:45 LASTLY, I WANT TO THANK BOTH OF YOU, MR.
01:30:50 CHAIRMAN AND MR. CHAIRMAN FOR YOUR TREMENDOUS LEADERSHIP ON THIS AND AROUND THE WORLD.
01:30:55 IT'S A PLEASURE TO YOU WITH YOU AND YOUR OFFICES.
01:30:57 YOU DO TREMENDOUS LEADERSHIP ON BEHALF OF THE U.
01:31:00 S. CONGRESS ON ALL THESE ISSUES AND IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED BY ME, MOST IMPORTANTLY IT'S APPRECIATED BY THE VICTIMS OF HUMAN RIGHTS' ABUSES AROUND THE WORLD WHO SEE THE UNITED STATES AS A SHINING EXAMPLE OF WHAT THEY WANT THEIR THEIR OWN COUNTRIES TO BECOME.
01:31:16 WE MAY HAVE FLAWS WE NEED TO WORK ON BUT WE CAN'T FORGET WHERE WE COME FROM AND BOTH OF YOU DESERVE HUGE CREDIT FOR YOUR ONGOING EFFORTS OVER SO MANY YEARS.
01:31:26 >> THANK YOU.
01:31:32 MRS. LEE?
01:31:39 >> I SPEAK IN CHINESE.
01:31:40 >> Translator: I WILL SPEAK CHINESE.
01:31:42 I FEEL THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW IS A VAST INTEREST GROUP.
01:31:57 [ SPEAKING CHINESE ] >> Translator: EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY REALIZE HOW GIGANTIC THE PROBLEMS THEY ARE CONFRONTED WITH, IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO OVERCOME THESE PROBLEMS AND TO MAKE AMENDS.
01:32:17 [ SPEAKING CHINESE ] >> Translator: THEREFORE, IN ORDER TO CHANGE CHINA, IT, INDEED, CALLS FOR MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO STAND UP AND SPEAK OUT.
01:32:33 [ SPEAKING CHINESE ] >> Translator: AS WAS POINTED OUT BY MY HUSBAND BEFORE HE WAS PUT IN JAIL.
01:32:43 [ SPEAKING CHINESE ]
01:32:48 >> Translator: THE MINDS HAVE TO BE EXPLORED AND HAVE TO BE TREADED ON FOR THEM TO EXPLODE.
01:32:57 IF YOU DON'T TEST THE FIELD, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW THE BORDERLINE AND YOU WILL NEVER KNOW HOW CHINESE DEMOCRACY WILL EMERGE AND WHETHER OR NOT CHINA CAN BE DEMOCRACIZED.
01:33:22 THEREFORE IT CALLS ON COMMON EFFORTS MADE BY ALL OF US.
01:33:25 [ SPEAKING CHINESE ]
01:33:29 >> Translator: AS WAS POINTED OUT IN MY TESTIMONY TODAY, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PLAYS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ROLE IN ALL OF THIS.
01:33:41 [ SPEAKING CHINESE ]
01:33:45 >> Translator: I VERY MUCH HOPE THAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL HELP CHINA TO MAKE AMENDS AND TO MAKE A CHANGE.
01:33:59 >> THANKS.
01:34:36 [ SPEAKING CHINESE ] >> Translator: THE SUFFERING OF MY HUSBAND AND MY FAMILY SHOWCASED A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM OF HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSE IN CHINA AND I REPEATEDLY REQUESTED TO MEET THE HIGHEST LEADERS IN THE UNITED STATES, PRESIDENT OBAMA, VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN, AND ALSO, SECRETARY HILLARY CLINTON.
01:34:58 I WISH I CAN MEET WITH THEM AND I ALSO HOPE THAT EMBASSY IN CHINA CAN SEND A DELEGATE TO MEET AND TO, AT LEAST, VERIFY WHETHER HE'S ALIVE OR NOT.
01:35:14 AND I REALLY HOPE THAT THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF LEADERS IN THE UNITED STATES WITH CAN PRESSURE CHINA TO RELEASE THEM UNCONDITIONALLY SO ALL THE FAMILIES CAN BE UNITED SOONER.
01:35:32 [ SPEAKING CHINESE ]
01:36:12 >> Translator: I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THE CHINESE PEOPLE STILL DON'T HAVE THE BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS RIGHT NOW AND IF THIS SITUATION CONTINUES IN CHINA, THE WHOLE HUMAN CIVILIZATION WON'T HAVE A PERFECT CIVILIZATION SO I HOPE THAT THE WHOLE WESTERN WORLD AND THE CIVILIZED WORLD CAN GIVE MORE SUPPORT TO THE CHINA'S HUMAN RIGHTS SITUATION AND CAN SUPPORT THOSE HUMAN RIGHTS WARRIORS IN CHINA SO THAT THEY CAN BE CONSOLED WHEN THEY ARE FIGHTING IN THE DARK.
01:36:52 THIS KIND OF SUPPORT NOT ONLY CAN BRING CHINA'S HUMAN RIGHTS EFFORTS INTO A MORE BRIGHTER ARE, IT WILL ALSO ENCOURAGE SUPPORTING MORE PEOPLE TO BRING OUT THEIR HUMAN NATURE, THE LIGHT OF THE HUMAN NATURE AND IT WILL ALSO PROVIDE TREMENDOUS COURAGE FOR ALL OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS WARRIORS IN CHINA WHEN THEY STRUGGLE IN THE DARK.
01:37:20 AND HOPEFULLY, THIS KIND OF SUPPORT CAN BRING MUCH MORE ENCOURAGEMENT TO THESE WARRIORS AND I THANK ALL OF YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART.
01:37:36 THANK YOU.
01:37:37 >> THANK YOU, SO MUCH FOR YOUR TESTIMONIES.
01:37:39 THE PEOPLE OF CHINA DESERVE BETTER THAN WHAT THEY'RE GETTING FROM THE DICTATORSHIP.
01:37:44 YOUR HUSBANDS AND YOU AND THE OTHERS LIKE YOU, WHO ARE LANGUISHING IN PRISON, ARE THE FUTURE OF CHINA AND WE NEED TO STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH YOU AND WITH THEM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
01:37:56 THE HEARING IS ADJOURNED.
01:38:02 MR. FU?
01:38:03 >> ONE MORE POINT TO BRING THE TRUE CHANGE TO CHINA, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR CONGRESS TO WORK TOGETHER TO PASS THE GLOBAL INTERNET FREEDOM ACT.
01:38:24 I THANK THE LEADERSHIP OF CONGRESS CONGRESSMAN WOLF FOR THIS.
01:38:29 THAT WILL PROVIDE A TREMENDOUS EFFICIENT TOOL TO BREAK DOWN THIS FIREWALL IN CHINA.
01:38:35 AND CERTAINLY, IT HAS IMPROVED THE CHANCE FORA PID DEMOCRACY IN CHINA.
01:38:43 THANK YOU.
01:38:45 >> AS YOU KNOW, MR.
01:38:47 FU, THAT BILL, THE GLOBAL INTERNET FREEDOM ACT, WE HOPE TO GET IT FINISHED ON OUR SUBCOMMITTEE.
01:38:54 IT'S AN IDEA WHOSE TIME HAS COME COME.
01:39:01 THE ENABLING OF HIGH-TECH -- TO ENABLE DICTATORSHIP TO FIND, APPREHEND AND INCARCERATE PEOPLE OF FAITH, THE CHRISTIANS, THE WIGGERS, AND TO DESTROY DISSIDENT MOVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD CALLS OUT FOR THIS LEGISLATION SO I HOPE TO HAVE THIS BILL OUT OF COMMITTEE SHORTLY SO I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
01:39:21 I'D LIKE TO THANK OUR DISTINGUISHED WITNESSES AAGAIN AND WITHOUT FURTHER A' DIEU, THE HEARING IS ADJOURNED.
01:40:29 THIS MEETING TOOK PLACE AS PRESIDENT OBAMA MET TODAY WITH THE CHINESE VICE PRESIDENT.
01:40:33 IN THE MEETING, PRESIDENT OBAMA REITERATED IF LONG-STANDING HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE.
01:40:43 EXPECTED TO BECOME CHINESE LEADER DEFENDED THE COMMUNIST RIGHT'S COUNTRY OVER THE PAST 30 YEARS AND ADDED, OF COURSE, THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT ON HUMAN RIGHTS, UNQUOTE.
01:40:55 C-SPAN'S FACEBOOK PAGE IS LOOKING FOR YOUR YIN PUT INTO THE VISIT TODAY BY CHINA'S VICE PRESIDENT.
01:41:01 HE MET WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA THIS MORNING AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND VISITS THE U.
01:41:05 S. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LATER THIS AFTERNOON.
01:41:08 HOW IMPORTANT ARE U.
01:41:09 S./CHINA RELATIONS?
01:41:10 LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ON C-SPAN'S FACEBOOK PAGE WHICH IS AT FACEBOOK.
01:47:32 COM/C-SPAN. >>> NOW
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