| 00:00:19 | HELLO, EVERYBODY. |
| 00:00:20 | IT WELCOME TO OUR NEXT SESSION. |
| 00:00:23 | I THINK IT WILL BE ONE OF THE MOST PROFOUND SESSIONS WE WILL HAVE. |
| 00:00:28 | I'D LIKE TO THINK REUTERS FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THAT WONDERFUL TRIBUTE TO THE JOURNALISTS TO HAVE FALLEN IN THE PAST YEAR AND FOREIGN CORRESPONDENTS ENOUGH DIED IN THE PAST YEAR. |
| 00:00:39 | THAT WAS WONDERFUL. I AM SORRY TO SAY THAT LAURA LOGAN CANNOT BE WITH US TODAY. |
| 00:00:44 | SHE HAD A SUDDEN ILLNESS AND HER FAMILY AND WE WISH THEM WELL. |
| 00:00:53 | OUR MODERATOR FOR "LIVES ON THE LINE, STARTED HER REPORTING CAREER IN MEMPHIS WHERE SHE COVERED THE DEATH OF ELVIS. |
| 00:01:01 | THAT'S HARD TO BEAT. |
| 00:01:04 | AS A REPORTER, SHE TRAVELED IN 50 COMPANIES, COVERING ARMS CONTROL, THE PERSIAN GULF WAR IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND BECAME AN EDITORIAL WRITER FOR "USA TODAY" AND THEN WORKED AT THE NEWSEUM. |
| 00:01:24 | SHE EDITED "RUNNING TOWARD DANGER" THE BOOK OF REPORTERS COVERING 9/11. |
| 00:01:32 | THREE WEEKS AGO, A HEARTBREAKING PHOTO OF A YOUNG AT SYRIAN BOY IN ANGUISH AFTER HIS FATHER WAS SHOT BY A SNIPER DOMINATED THE NEW YORK TIMES, WALL STREET JOURNAL, WASHINGTON POST, AND OTHER PAPERS FROM THE WORLD. |
| 00:01:47 | A FEW DAYS LATER, THE PHOTOGRAPHER WHO SHOT THE PHOTO WROTE A GRIPPING ACCOUNT OF ESCAPING FROM SYRIA. |
| 00:01:56 | EXPLOSIONS ILLUMINATED THE NIGHT AS WE RAN, HOPING TO ESCAPE SYRIA. |
| 00:02:02 | THE GOVERNMENT SEEMS DETERMINED TO KEEP THE WORLD FROM SEEING IT. |
| 00:02:06 | TANK SHELLS SLAMMED INTO THE CITY STREETS. |
| 00:02:10 | SNIPER BULLETS WHIZZED BY OUR HEADS. |
| 00:02:13 | WE'RE ALL GOING TO GET KILLED, AN ACTIVIST TOLD ME. |
| 00:02:19 | A NATIVE OF ARGENTINA WHO HAS WORKED FOR THE AP SINCE 2003 COVERING THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN AND CONFLICTS IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND AROUND THE GLOBE. |
| 00:02:31 | CHRISTOPHER SHIVERS IS ONE OF THE OUTSTANDING REPORTERS AND WRITERS OF OUR TIME. |
| 00:02:37 | A MARINE IN THE PERSIAN GULF WAR, HIS WORK HAS BEEN CITED IN TO PULITZER PRIZE EFFORTS IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES. |
| 00:02:48 | " THAT INCLUDES A NATIONAL MAGAZINE AWARD AND THE MICHAEL KELLY AWARD FOR THE FEARLESS PURSUIT AN EXPRESSION OF THE TRUTH. |
| 00:02:56 | HIS NATIONAL MAGAZINE AWARD WAS FOR THE SCHOOL, A DESCRIPTION OF THE SECOND WORST TERRORIST ATTACK EVER BY CHECHEN REBELS. |
| 00:03:11 | THE STORY WAS LISTED AS ONE OF THE SEVEN GREATEST STORIES EVER PUBLISHED BY THE MAGAZINE. |
| 00:03:17 | HE ALSO COVERED THE WORST TERRORIST ATTACK EVER, SEPTEMBER 11, AS A REPORTER BASED IN LOWER MANHATTAN, SPENDING TWO WEEKS AT GROUND ZERO VIRTUALLY WITHOUT SLEEP. |
| 00:03:29 | HIS DISPATCHES FROM IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN WERE SELECTED AS BEING AMONG THE DECADE'S TOP 10 WORKS OF JOURNALISM. |
| 00:03:39 | TYLER HICKS WAS PART OF THE TIMES TEAM THAT WON THE 2009 PULITZER AND WAS NAMED ONE OF THE DECADE'S TOP 10 WORKS OF JOURNALIST. |
| 00:03:50 | HE HAS BEEN NAMED A NEWS PHOTOGRAPHER OF THE YEAR AND HAS COVERED DISASTERS IN CHECHNYA, IRAQ, LIBYA AND SYRIA. |
| 00:04:02 | HE WAS WITH JOURNALISTS AS THEY WERE TAKEN CAPTIVE IN LIBYA BY FORCES LOYAL TO MUAMMAR GADDAFI. |
| 00:04:13 | THEIR 21-YEAR-OLD DRIVER WAS KILLED. |
| 00:04:16 | HE WAS WITH HIM WHEN HE DIED IN SYRIA AND WROTE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN "THE TIMES" SAYING THEY FELT WAS ESSENTIAL TO GET INTO SYRIA WERE 7000 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED, LARGELY OUT OF WORLD VIEW. |
| 00:04:32 | THAT IS WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. |
| 00:04:35 | I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE EXECUTIVE EDITOR OF THE "NEW YORK TIMES. |
| 00:04:49 | " [APPLAUSE] >> THANKS SO MUCH. |
| 00:04:50 | WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING AS YOU GATHERED IN THIS ROOM ARE THE PICTURES OF 14 JOURNALISTS AND COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED SO FAR THIS YEAR ON TOP OF A TERRIBLE 2011 WHERE THE NUMBER REACHED 46. |
| 00:05:10 | THIS PANEL WHICH INCLUDES TWO OF MY MOST ESTEEMED COLLEAGUES FROM "THE TIMES" IS HERE TO DISCUSS THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS OF WHY WE STILL GO AND WHY BEARING WITNESS TO CONFLICTS AND MORE IS INDEED A CALLING FOR THEM AND OTHERS WHO PROUDLY CALL THEMSELVES THE FOREIGN CORRESPONDENTS. |
| 00:05:44 | TYLER WAS WITH ANTHONY, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, WHEN HE DIED. |
| 00:05:49 | HE WAS TRYING TO CROSS THE BORDER FROM SYRIA BACK TO TURKEY AND TYLER WAS ALSO WITH ANTONY AND TWO OF OUR OTHER COLLEAGUES ABOUT A YEAR AGO WHEN THEY WERE TAKEN CAPTIVE THE -- TAKEN INTO CAPTIVITY IN LIBYA. |
| 00:06:08 | TYLER HAS BEEN A HERO TO MANY OF HIS COLLEAGUES AND NEVER FOR A MINUTE TRIED TO SAVE ANTONY AND BROUGHT HIM FOR -- BROUGHT HIM ACROSS THE BORDER TO SAFETY. |
| 00:06:23 | HE WROTE A TERRIFIC PIECE ABOUT THEIR TRIP TO SYRIA, THE REPORTING PART OF THAT, WHICH AND THE NEA WAS INCREDIBLY EXCITED ABOUT. |
| 00:06:36 | FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO KNEW HIM, HE WAS IRREPRESSIBLE IN HIS JOY OF BEING OUT, COVERING WITH HIS OWN EYES AND EARS THE MOST IMPORTANT STORIES. |
| 00:06:55 | FRIENDS DESCRIBED HIS PURE JOY WHEN HE FINALLY GOT TO TAHRIR SQUARE AND TOLD THE EDITORS AT THE TIME THAT THE REPORTING TRIP TO SYRIA HAD BEEN ONE OF THE BEST HE HAD MADE. |
| 00:07:12 | WHAT MADE ANTONY'S SPECIAL WAS HIS FLUENCY IN ARABIC, HIS LYRICAL PROSE, HIS EYE FOR DETAIL, AND HIS DEDICATION FOR TELLING THE STORIES OF ORDINARY PEOPLE CAUGHT BY CONFLICT INSTEAD OF TELLING THE STORIES OF WAR THROUGH THE EYES OF POLITICAL LEADERS AND THOSE WAGING THE BATTLE. |
| 00:07:41 | MY PREDECESSOR AND EXECUTIVE EDITOR WHO HIRED ANTHONY AT THE TIMES SAID SOMETHING QUITE TRUE ABOUT HIM, WHICH IS IF WITH THE PDS HAD A CINCHED -- IF WIKIPEDIA HAD A SINGLE TO ENTRY, IT WOULD JUST HAVE HIS NAME. |
| 00:08:10 | HE WORKED FOR HIS BELOVED "WASHINGTON POST" AND HIS FATHER TOLD ME THAT A DISTINCT MEMORY OF HIS WHEN I WAS CHATTING WITH HIM IN BEIRUT AFTER THAT TRAGEDY SAID HE WOULD WIND UP WHENEVER PRIZE WAS AVAILABLE AND STARTED DOING THIS WHEN HE WAS 10 YEARS OLD AT BIBLE CAMP. |
| 00:08:37 | HIS NEW BOOK IS A GORGEOUS MEDITATION ON THE IDENTITY AND THE TUG OF FAMILY AND COVERING WAR. |
| 00:08:47 | HE WRITES -- HE IS WRITING ABOUT HIS OKLAHOMA CITY EXTENDED FAMILY AND SAYS "IT IS A BIG, SPRAWLING CLAN, TOGETHER EVEN WHEN IT IS APART. |
| 00:09:04 | SAID JOURNALISTS ON THIS PANEL ARE VERY MUCH PART OF THE CLAN AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK HIS WORDS APPLY TO JOURNALISM BROADLY AS WELL. |
| 00:09:14 | THANK YOU. |
| 00:09:23 | [APPLAUSE] >> SOMETIMES, WHEN ONE IS ASKED TO MODERATE A PANEL, YOU WORRY ABOUT HOW I CAN FILL THE ALLOTTED TIME. |
| 00:09:30 | IN THE CASE OF THIS PANEL, I QUESTION WAS HOW CAN I GET IN ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS? |
| 00:09:37 | I WILL JUST DIE IN WITH MY QUESTIONS BUT AT ANY POINT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO SO. |
| 00:09:47 | THIS IS A FREE-FOR-ALL, SO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY. |
| 00:09:52 | I HOPE EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM AND READ YOUR STORY ABOUT ANTHONY'S LAST DAY IN ASSYRIA. |
| 00:10:00 | YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW YOU SPEND MONTHS WITH HIM PLANNING THIS TRIP AND PLANNING HOW TO STAY SAFE. |
| 00:10:08 | CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? |
| 00:10:13 | >> THIS TYPE OF TRIP, ESPECIALLY IN THE WAKE OF WHAT WE HAVE SEEN HAPPEN TO OUR COLLEAGUES OVER JUST THE PAST YEAR, A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN SYRIA AND LIBYA, PEOPLE WE HAVE BEEN VERY CLOSE TO. |
| 00:10:32 | IT SEEMS THERE WAS A LOT OF LUCK WITH JOURNALISTS, CONSIDERING AMERICA HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN TWO WARS OVER A DECADE AND SOME MAJOR ROLE -- SOME A JOURNALIST GOING AND GETTING HURT ALONG THE WAY. |
| 00:10:49 | BUT IT HAS BEEN CONCENTRATED IN THE LAST YEAR AND IT MADE US FOCUS DIFFERENTLY ON IT. |
| 00:10:56 | ESPECIALLY IN OUR CASE, JUST ONE YEAR BEFORE PLANNING A TRIP, HAVING BEEN CAPTURED AND NEARLY KILLED IN LIBYA, ANTHONY AND I TOOK EXTRA STEPS TO MAKE SURE THIS TRIP WOULD GO SMOOTHLY. |
| 00:11:14 | THOSE WERE NOT JUST OUR OWN PREPARATIONS BUT LARGELY THE CONTACTS AND TO HAVE INSIDE SYRIA WHERE WE MADE SURE WE WERE WORKING WITH PEOPLE WHO WE COULD TRUST. |
| 00:11:27 | THIS IS NOT ABOUT JUST CHARGING INTO A COUNTRY, WHICH IS THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO. |
| 00:11:33 | THERE'S A FEELING IT YOU HAVE TO BE THEIR FIRST, BUT WE DID NOT FEEL THAT. |
| 00:11:40 | AS HE EXPLAINED IT TO ME, THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG WAR AND IT IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE. |
| 00:11:48 | LET'S DO THIS RIGHT AND DO IT SAFELY. |
| 00:11:52 | THAT INCLUDED TAKING A LOT OF PRECAUTION ABOUT WHICH BORDER WE WOULD CROSS AND WHO WE ARE CROSSING WITH AND WHAT CONTACTS HAVE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST? |
| 00:12:02 | A LOT OF THE THINGS ABOUT THESE PEOPLE AND WHO THEYPEOPLE AND WHO THEY REALLY ARE, YOUR LIFE IS IN THEIR HANDS. |
| 00:12:12 | REALLY, THE LOCAL CONTACT YOU WERE WORKING WITH AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE TIME LINE, WHICH CARRY AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE TO BEGIN THAT TELLS THE PAPER WHERE WE ARE AT ANY GIVEN TIME, YOU PUSH A BUTTON. |
| 00:12:29 | WE CARRY MEDICAL KITS. |
| 00:12:36 | UNFORTUNATELY, AT THE VERY END OF THE TRIP, IT WAS VERY UNEXPECTED IN A LOT OF WAYS. |
| 00:12:44 | >> ALL OF YOU ARE VETERANS OF COVERING CONFLICT, BUT CHRIS, WHAT ADVICE DO YOU GIVE TO EDITORS SENDING SOMEBODY INTO A CONFLICT FOR THE FIRST TIME? |
| 00:12:54 | IS THERE SOMETHING THEY CAN DO TO PREPARE THE REPORTER OR THE PHOTOGRAPHER FOR THIS KIND OF ACTION? |
| 00:13:05 | >> AS PART OF YOUR NORMAL SUPERVISION, MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER YOU SEND HAS EXCELLENT JUDGMENT AND SOMEONE THAT IS IN TOUCH WITH YOU REGULARLY. |
| 00:13:15 | WE WERE OFF SATELLITE PHONES AND SOMETIMES ONLY THROUGH E-MAIL. |
| 00:13:21 | COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH WITH THE BEST MEANS TO BE REALLY RICH AND AS CONSTANT AS YOU CAN MAKE IT. |
| 00:13:27 | I DON'T THINK YOU SEND SOMEONE WHO YOU DON'T THINK THEIR JUDGMENT WAS SOLID, BUT THERE IS A PRACTICAL SKILL THAT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE AND FAR TOO FEW PEOPLE HAVE. |
| 00:13:42 | HE SHOULD NOT SEND SOMEONE WHO HAS NOT HAD THE BASIC TRAUMA CARE TRAINING. |
| 00:13:50 | IT IS ESSENTIAL. |
| 00:13:52 | WHEN YOU'RE TRAVELING WITH THE AMERICAN MILITARY, MOST EVERYONE AROUND YOU HAVE THAT TRAINING. |
| 00:13:58 | IT IS LIKELY THERE WILL BE TOURNIQUETS AND BASIC SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE AVAILABLE. |
| 00:14:04 | IN LIBYA OR SYRIA, YOU'LL BE ASTONISHED AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DON'T HAVE ANY SKILLS. |
| 00:14:11 | YOU HAVE JUST MINUTES TO SAVE SOMEONE'S LIFE. |
| 00:14:15 | THE SHOW CAN COME IN AND YOU MAY HAVE TO WORK ON THEM. |
| 00:14:20 | THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU DO VASCULAR SURGERY, BUT YOU HAVE TO TREAT FOR SHOCK, TO A BASIC RIYADH. |
| 00:14:28 | IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT JOURNALISTS HAVE THIS FUNDAMENTAL SET OF SKILLS. |
| 00:14:35 | A FRIEND OF OURS BY THE OF THE LEAD LOANED -- A LEG WOUND. |
| 00:14:45 | THE FRIENDS WERE HOLDING THEIR HAND, PROVIDING COMFORT BUT NOT FIRST DAY. |
| 00:14:50 | PEOPLE WERE TAKEN FROM THAT SCENE THAT WERE WOUNDED LESS SERIOUSLY THAN THEM BY THE ONLY AVAILABLE,. |
| 00:15:00 | -- AVAILABLE CAR. |
| 00:15:02 | I AM NOT SAYING THIS GENTLEMAN WOULD HAVE SURVIVED HIS WOUNDS, THEY WERE SEVERE. |
| 00:15:08 | WE KNOW THAT THE AID WAS NOT ADMINISTERED AND THE TREE OF WASN'T FOLLOWED. |
| 00:15:15 | -- TRIAGE WASN'T FOLLOWED. |
| 00:15:20 | IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THAT VERY BASIC SKILLS THAT. |
| 00:15:28 | L SET. |
| 00:15:30 | YOU CAN GIVE THEM AN AT&T COURSE. |
| 00:15:34 | YOU DON'TEMT COURS. |
| 00:15:40 | I THINK THAT IS ESSENTIAL. |
| 00:15:44 | >> B-PICTURE THAT GEORGE MENTIONED ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE NEW YORK TIMES, THE WASHINGTON POST, AND OTHERS WAS SYRIA AND REBEL SOLDIERS GRIEVING OVER SOME OF THEIR DEAD COMRADES. |
| 00:15:59 | YOU WROTE ABOUT YOUR DANGEROUS TRIP INTO SYRIA, AND HE SAID IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN YOUR BEST PHOTOGRAPHY, BUT IT TOLD PEOPLE A LOT ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON IN SYRIA. |
| 00:16:13 | IS IT IMPORTANT TO TAKE THOSE KIND OF PICTURES AS WELL AS THE ONES THAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE A PRIZE WINNER? |
| 00:16:22 | >> YES, WHEN WE WERE, WE ARE NEVER THINKING THAT FAR. |
| 00:16:43 | [INAUDIBLE] THAT PICTURE IS MORE EMOTIONAL. |
| 00:16:50 | I WOULD PICTURE WHAT IS GOING ON, ALSO WITH THE CIVILIANS. |
| 00:17:02 | I THINK THE RISK IS TO SHOW THAT, NOT ONLY TO SHOW THE FIERCE FIGHTING. |
| 00:17:14 | PEOPLE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT. |
| 00:17:17 | THEY ARE SUFFERING EVERY DAY. |
| 00:17:30 | [INAUDIBLE] HE WAS LIVING HIS NORMAL LIFE. |
| 00:17:35 | I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO SHOW THE DAILY LIFE OF THE SYRIANS RIGHT NOW. |
| 00:17:40 | IT MEANS A LOT OF AMAZING PICTURES, MORE DRAMATIC. |
| 00:17:46 | IT WAS SO DANGEROUS SOMETIMES, I WAS RISKING MY LIFE LIKE EVERY MINUTE. |
| 00:17:57 | WE TRY TO TELL THE STORY WITHOUT BEING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BOMBS. |
| 00:18:04 | THEY WERE BOMBING FROM FAR AWAY. |
| 00:18:09 | IF YOU ARE IN THAT PLACE, YOU ARE THERE. |
| 00:18:17 | WE HAD A CAMERA GUY WITH A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. |
| 00:18:22 | I AM TRYING TO DO MY BEST IN THOSE PLACES. |
| 00:18:32 | HE SAID, RODRIGO, WE CAN'T BE HERE NOW. |
| 00:18:38 | IT'S TOO DANGEORUS. |
| 00:18:42 | ROUS. |
| 00:18:45 | AND HERE PEOPLE THAT REALLY KNOW THE WEAPONS -- [INAUDIBLE] |
| 00:18:54 | I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THESE WEAPONS ARE. |
| 00:19:00 | >> FOR THE NON-PHOTOGRAPHERS, YOU ALSO CONFRONTS MAJOR CHAOS. |
| 00:19:09 | RIOTS, A MASS FUNERAL, HOW DO YOU FOCUS ON THAT ONE IMAGE WHETHER IT IS IN GRIEVING OR SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK IT TELLS THE STORY. |
| 00:19:20 | ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THAT IN PARTICULAR? |
| 00:19:26 | >> IS ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE OBSERVED THROUGH THE YEARS, WATCHING OTHER PHOTOGRAPHERS THAT I HAVE ALWAYS ADMIRED. |
| 00:19:34 | BEING IN THE SCENE, WHETHER IT IS A FUNERAL OR A PROTEST, WHATEVER IT IS. |
| 00:19:43 | I WOULD BE SHOOTING EVERYTHING IN EVERY DIRECTION. |
| 00:19:48 | I LOOKED AT THE PICTURE, AND THEY COMPLETELY -- THEY GOT THIS IN BEIJI AMAZING SHOT. |
| 00:19:56 | I GOT ALL THIS GARBAGE, THESE BUSY PICTURES. |
| 00:20:02 | I THINK THAT THIS STILL ISN'T SO MUCH JUST GOING AND PHOTOGRAPH EVERYTHING, BUT KNOWING WHAT YOUR LOOKING FOR WHEN YOU GO INTO THAT SITUATION AND HAVING THE ABILITY TO FOCUS AND TUNE OUT. |
| 00:20:18 | IT IS LIKE HUNTING FOR BIRDS. |
| 00:20:20 | YOU HAVE TO AIM AT A ONE, NOT A FLOCK. |
| 00:20:28 | >> RODRIGO? |
| 00:20:29 | >> FOR ME, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO BE CALM IN THAT SITUT ATION. |
| 00:20:40 | WHEN THE SITUATION IS REALLY A CHAOTIC, YOU CAN START RUNNING EVERYWHERE WITHOUT TAKING A PICTURE. |
| 00:20:51 | BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. |
| 00:20:56 | YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND A PICTURE THAT ILLUSTRATES THE STORY. |
| 00:21:07 | IT IS DIFFICULT. |
| 00:21:16 | [INAUDIBLE] THE SITUATION WAS COMPLETELY MORE DRAMATIC AND MORE CHAOTIC THAN MY PICTURES. |
| 00:21:21 | YOU'RE CALM, YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE, YOU CAN DEAL WITH THE EMOTIONS WITHOUT DRAMA, PEOPLE CRYING, PEOPLE RUNNING. |
| 00:21:36 | IT IS DIFFICULT, BUT WE TRY TO LIVE THROUGH >> AND SOME MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY HAVE TROUBLE WITH ADJUSTMENTS WHEN THEY COME HOME. |
| 00:21:50 | THEY HAVE COME FROM AN AREA WHERE DRIVING DOWN THE BLOCK CAN BE AN IMMINENT EXPLOSION, EVERYBODY CARRYING A BACKPACK CAN BE A SUICIDE BOMBER. |
| 00:22:01 | HOW DO YOU GO BETWEEN THE WORLD THAT YOU COVER AND WHAT WE CALL THE REAL WORLD? |
| 00:22:08 | >> I THINK ABOUT THIS A LOT BECAUSE I HAVE FIVE KIDS, MY WIFE IS HERE. |
| 00:22:14 | I COME BACK TO A PRETTY BUSY LIFE THAT IS MY REAL LIFE. |
| 00:22:19 | IT IS NOT MY JOB. |
| 00:22:20 | IN A STRANGE WAY, SOME OF THESE PLACES HAVE BEEN HORRIBLE WEATHER IS GROUND ZERO OR THE DAY TO DAY IN LIBYA AND AFGHANISTAN OR IRAQ. |
| 00:22:36 | IT MAKES YOU APPRECIATE YOUR OWN GOOD FORTUNE. |
| 00:22:41 | YOU COME TO A PLACE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY. |
| 00:22:47 | I DON'T RESENT THAT, I APPRECIATE IT. |
| 00:22:50 | YOU TRY TO GET SOME PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU DON'T ALWAYS SUCCEED AT IT, BECAUSE WHEN YOU COME BACK, YOUR IN YOUR REGULAR LIFE. |
| 00:23:03 | YOU CAN'T REALLY TRIED TO SUPERIMPOSE ONE OVER THE OTHER AND YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE OTHER ONE FOR YOUR WORK SITUATION. |
| 00:23:11 | THESE GUYS WERE TALKING A MINUTE AGO THAT I WOULD ADD, IT MIGHT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PERSONALITY THAT DOES THIS YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT. |
| 00:23:28 | CLOSE AT THE DARK, FIVE THE TOURNIQUETS. |
| 00:23:37 | THEY SHARED SOMETHING THAT IS VERY SIMILAR AND I WILL AIR THEM OUT. |
| 00:23:43 | SOME OF THESE GUYS, YOU MIGHT BE THE SAME TYPE, YOU MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PERVERSE PERSONALITY. |
| 00:23:51 | WHEN THINGS ARE REALLY GOOD, THEY CAN BE UNMANAGEABLE. |
| 00:23:57 | [LAUGHTER] AND WHEN THINGS ARE REALLY BAD, YOU CAN BE CALM. |
| 00:24:02 | I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY DON'T FEEL FEAR, THEY DO. |
| 00:24:07 | IF THEY TELL YOU THEY DON'T, THEY ARE LYING. |
| 00:24:11 | BUT THEY MANAGE IT, THEY CHANNEL IT, THEY CONCENTRATED AND ARE VERY, CALM. |
| 00:24:20 | THEY ARE BOUNCING AROUND THE INSIDE OF THE TENT BECAUSE IT'S CALM. |
| 00:24:26 | WHEN THEY ARE OUT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT, I WORK SIDE-BY- SIDE WITH PHOTOGRAPHERS, I WORK FROM THE FIELD. |
| 00:24:36 | IT CAN BE SO BUSY AND INTENSE THAT IS VERY SELF-ORGANIZING. |
| 00:24:41 | YOU ARE NOT IN THOSE SORTS OF SITUATIONS WHEN YOUR HOME. |
| 00:24:46 | WHEN YOU GET STUCK IN TRAFFIC, YOU ARE JUST A GUY STUCK IN TRAFFIC. |
| 00:24:53 | IT IS NOT SO BAD. |
| 00:24:58 | >> I AGREE. |
| 00:25:02 | I AGREE WITH CHRIS A LOT, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEPARATE AS BEST YOU CAN WHAT YOU DO IN THE FIELD THAT WHAT YOU HAVE AT HOME. |
| 00:25:13 | PEOPLE MANAGE THAT IN DIFFERENT WAYS, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF COPING WITH THE STRESS BEING IN THE FIELD. |
| 00:25:22 | I HEARD ABOUT THIS WITH JOURNALISTS AT WITH VETERANS. |
| 00:25:29 | -- AND WITH VETERANS. |
| 00:25:30 | YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE FIELD, THE STRESS, THE ANCHOR, THE FIGHTING, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN. |
| 00:25:42 | I THINK CHRIS AND I BOTH HAVE VERY GOOD WAYS OF MANAGING THOSE TWO THINGS. |
| 00:25:52 | WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO ME IN THE LAST YEAR, THIS PAST YEAR HAS BEEN THE WORST YEAR OF MY ENTIRE LIFE. |
| 00:26:00 | CAPTURED IN LIBYA, LOST A VERY GOOD FRIEND IN SYRIA, I HAD TO WITNESS HIS DEATH. |
| 00:26:09 | AND WORSE THAN THAT, SEEING HOW BADLY IT AFFECTED SO MANY PEOPLE, HIS FAMILY, FRIENDS, A WIDOW, HIS SON, HIS DAUGHTER. |
| 00:26:24 | IT IS ONE THING TO SEE SOMETHING IN THE FIELD, BUT THERE WERE THESE LONG-LASTING THINGS THAT REALLY NEED ATTENTION. |
| 00:26:39 | WHETHER IT IS A CORRESPONDENT FOR PHOTOGRAPHER, THEY THINK YOU NEED TO BE VERY SENSITIVE TO THE LEVEL THAT THEY ARE COPING WITH. |
| 00:26:50 | IT VERY WELL MAY NOT BE ON THE SURFACE, I KNOW THAT THE PAPER IS ALWAYS OFFERING HELP. |
| 00:27:02 | SOMEBODY TO TALK TO, AND THE THING. |
| 00:27:06 | YOU DON'T EVEN ALWAYS THINK TO ASK FOR IT YOURSELF. |
| 00:27:09 | HE SURE THAT YOU OFFER IT TO PEOPLE, EVEN IF THEY DON'T THINK IT WAS THAT BAD, IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. |
| 00:27:22 | >> THIS REALLY AFFECTS THE FAMILIES. |
| 00:27:25 | I REMEMBER WHEN HE STEPPED ON A MINE A FEW YEARS AGO. |
| 00:27:36 | HOW IS HE DOING, IS HE GOING TO MAKE IT? |
| 00:27:42 | THERE IS SORT OF THIS EXPANDING AND BLOSSOM IN CONVERSATION. |
| 00:27:48 | -- AND BLOSSOMING CONVERSATION. |
| 00:27:53 | HE WAS 2 YEARS OLD IN THE BACK SEAT OF MY PICKUP TRUCK, I TOOK THE ADDITIONAL CALL. |
| 00:28:00 | HE CAN ONLY HEAR ONE SIDE BUT HE CONSENTS BY DISTRESS. |
| 00:28:06 | WHAT DID YOUR FRIEND IS THAT BONN -- STEP ON? |
| 00:28:12 | THERE WERE TIMES THAT I WAS COMING HOME, AND HE'D LOOK AT E ME AND SAY, HOW COME YOU'RE NOT HURT? |
| 00:28:24 | WHAT MY WIFE GOES THROUGH AND MY KIDS GO THROUGH WHAT I HAVE NO WAY,EN I AM AWAY, IT MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT YOUR UNIVERSE. |
| 00:28:42 | NOT JUST HOW HE IS DOING IN THIS ROOM. |
| 00:28:49 | -- IN THE NEWSROOM. |
| 00:28:50 | YOU CAN GET YOUR WAY AROUND THE PAIN OF THAT. |
| 00:28:53 | A LITTLE BIT. |
| 00:28:56 | BUT TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THE FAMILIES, THIS IS A REAL BURDEN. |
| 00:29:01 | IT IS LIKE WHAT THE SOLDIERS GO THROUGH OR THE VICTIMS THAT ARE CAUGHT UP. |
| 00:29:08 | THEY MAY NOT BE RIGHT THERE SEEING IT, BUT THEY ARE LIVING IT. |
| 00:29:13 | THEY CAN SENSE THINGS WE ARE NOT SAYING WHEN WE COME HOME. |
| 00:29:21 | >> YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCE THAT YOU DON'T COVER CONFLICT ALL THE TIME. |
| 00:29:26 | YOU MIGHT BE TAKING PICTURES WITH A BOX CAMERA THAT YOU FOUND IN AFGHANISTAN ONE DAY. |
| 00:29:33 | HOW DO YOU FDEAL WITH COVERING PEACEFUL TOPICS AND THEN GOING BACK TO WAR? |
| 00:29:43 | >> I LIVE IN CENTRAL AMERICA, A COVERI COVER HAITI, MEXICO. |
| 00:29:53 | THEY ARE NOT EASY COUNTRIES, BUT IT IS NOT OPEN WAR LIKE LIBYA. |
| 00:29:58 | BUT I THINK THAT I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GO AND DO THIS LIKE SIX MONTHS A YEAR OR NINE MONTHS A YEAR COVERING WARS. |
| 00:30:12 | EARLY, I AM MORE FRESH GOING TO THESE PLACES. |
| 00:30:18 | COMING BACK, I AM DOING A PROJECT ABOUT BY AND WOMEN -- MAYAN WOMEN. |
| 00:30:29 | I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER STORY. |
| 00:30:32 | WHEN I GO TO PAKISTAN, IT'S IN A DIFFERENT WAY. |
| 00:30:39 | NOT ALWAYS THE WORLD. |
| 00:30:45 | SO I AM NOT TIRED. |
| 00:30:48 | I AM NEVER TIRED OF GOING BECAUSE I SPENT THE EARLY PART OF THE YEAR DOING TRIPS, AND A NORMAL LIFE. |
| 00:31:00 | OTHER STORIES. |
| 00:31:01 | THAT IS GOOD. |
| 00:31:04 | MY MOTHER SAYS ALL THE TIME, WHY ARE YOU NOT GOING TO THE OLYMPICS? |
| 00:31:11 | WHY HAITI? |
| 00:31:15 | [LAUGHTER] TALKING ABOUT FAMILY, THEY DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY YOU GO TO AFGHANISTAN. |
| 00:31:32 | I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO DO IT. |
| 00:31:36 | A GOOD THING WORKING FOR -- [INAUDIBLE] |
| 00:31:44 | YOU ARE NOT JUST WORKING FOR ONE NEWSPAPER, YOU ARE WORKING FOR ALL OF THEM. |
| 00:31:52 | SOMETIMES OUR PITCHERS ARE PUBLISHED EVERYWHERE. |
| 00:31:55 | IT IS IMPORTANT TO DO IT, DOTO DO MIXED STORIES. |
| 00:32:04 | IF I WORK HARD AND LATIN AMERICA, NOBODY CARES. |
| 00:32:09 | >> CHRIS, YOU ARE A BIT OF A HYBRID. |
| 00:32:13 | BEFORE YOU WERE A JOURNALIST, YOU WERE A MARINE. |
| 00:32:17 | AS YOU COVER THE MARINES AS A JOURNALIST, BUT YOU FIND THAT THEY HELP OR A HINDRANCE --DO YOU FIND THAT A HELP OR A HINDRANCE? |
| 00:32:29 | DO YOU TELL PEOPLE UP FRONT THAT YOU WERE IN THE MARINES, OR DO YOU WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE SITUATION IS? |
| 00:32:38 | >> I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE WITH THAT ANYMORE, BEFORE YOU SHOW UP, THEY KNOW A LOT ABOUT YOU AND THEY HAVE READ WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. |
| 00:32:50 | AT THIS POINT, THERE IS NO LOWBALLING THAT. |
| 00:32:54 | MOSTLY IT HELPS. |
| 00:32:55 | HELPS A LOT. |
| 00:32:59 | THERE ARE THINGS THAT GOT DRILLED IN THE BY DNA WHAT I WAS YOUNG THAT YOU CAN'T GET RID OF - -INTO- INTO MY DNA WHAT I WAS YOUNG THAT YOU CAN'T GET RID OF. |
| 00:33:13 | BUT WHAT I AM WALKING PATROL, I AM HYPER VIGILANT. |
| 00:33:19 | I USUALLY SET OF THE PATROL ORDER BEFOREHAND, I CAN SOMETIMES ANTICIPATE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING BEFORE THEY HAPPEN. |
| 00:33:27 | IT PUTS YOU IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND KEEP YOU SAFE, AND IT HELPS ME MAKE A GOOD RISK ASSESSMENT ABOUT WHETHER I WANTED TO THIS PARTICULAR PATROL. |
| 00:33:39 | I WILL SHOULDER RISK FOR READERS, BUT I WILL JUST GO OUT THERE AND WHAT THE PATROL BECAUSE I WANT TO. |
| 00:33:45 | THERE HAS TO BE A REASON OR A PURSUIT. |
| 00:33:49 | YOU HAVE TO COME BACK INSIDE THE WIRE, AS THEY SAY. |
| 00:33:56 | BUT SOMETIMES, IT HURTS. |
| 00:33:57 | I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. |
| 00:34:00 | THERE WAS A PATROL THE I WAS ON, IT HAS HAPPENED A FEW TIMES, WHERE YOUR STATE OF KNOWLEDGE IS HIGH. |
| 00:34:09 | YOU COME TO A POINT WHERE THE PATROL IS NOT BEHAVING THE WAY THEY YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE PAVING. |
| 00:34:17 | IN ONE CASE, A PATROL WAS TAKING THE LEFT JUST SHORT OF THE CANAL AND I THOUGHT THAT THEY SHOULD SCOOT OVER THE BRIDGE. |
| 00:34:29 | I THOUGHT THERE WAS A BUILDING OVER THERE THAT WAS DANGEROUS. |
| 00:34:34 | I WANTED TO BE ON THEIR SIDE OF THE CANALS OF THAT YOU CAN SWEEP THE BUILDING. |
| 00:34:41 | THERE WAS A BOAT IN THE CANAL, I KNEW IT WAS HE. |
| 00:34:46 | IF WE END UP IN THE CANAL, WE WILL DROWN TODAY. |
| 00:34:51 | BUT I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING, IT IS NOT MY JOB. |
| 00:34:56 | YOU'RE NOT THERE TO TAKE OVER THE PATROL. |
| 00:34:59 | IF SOMEONE GETS HURT, FROM THAT MINUTE FORWARD, YOU OWN THAT CASUALTIES. |
| 00:35:07 | YOU HAVE TO BE QUIET ON PATROL. |
| 00:35:11 | THE TYLER AND I WERE A LOT OF PATROL A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, AND THEY WERE BUNCHED UP. |
| 00:35:16 | THESE KIDS HAVE NEVER BEEN SHOT AT. |
| 00:35:22 | YOU KNOW WHEN YOU ARE MOVING WITH A GROUP THAT HAS HAD A LOT OF COMBAT, OF THIS PARTICULAR DAY, I DECIDED NOT TO SAY ANYTHING. |
| 00:35:33 | I ALMOST SAID, YOU MIGHT WANT TO SCOOT OVER TO THAT SIDE OF THE BRIDGE. |
| 00:35:38 | WE GOT SHOT AT FROM THE BUILDING, GOT SHOT THROUGH THE SPINE. |
| 00:35:44 | NOT LIKE I WAS WITHHOLDING INFORMATION FROM THE PATROL, I JUST HAD A HUNCH. |
| 00:35:55 | EVERY TIME YOU HAVE A HUNCH, YOU CAN'T INTERFERE WITH THE PATROL. |
| 00:36:00 | BUT THIS IS WHERE IT HURTS. |
| 00:36:02 | I THINK ABOUT THE PATROL, I WILL SAY EVERY DAY, BUT EVERY WEEK. |
| 00:36:07 | -- WON'T SAY EVERY DAY, BUT EVERY WEEK. |
| 00:36:13 | >> THE NAVY IS CONDUCTING A STUDY IN THE MILITARY TROOPS THAT THEY SOMETIMES GET A SIXTH SENSE FOROR SPIDEY SENSE FOR DANGER THAT'S IMMINENT. |
| 00:36:30 | DOES THIS COME FROM EXPERIENCE? |
| 00:36:33 | >> I THINK THAT COMES FROM EXPERIENCE IN THE SENSE THAT SPECIFICALLY, IF YOU TALK ABOUT CONTROL AND AFGHANISTAN, YOU CAN FEEL WHEN SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. |
| 00:36:48 | THAT OFTEN COMES FROM EXPERIENCE. |
| 00:37:02 | WHEN YOU SEND PEOPLE OUT, THEY ARE GOING WITH TRAINED SOLDIERS AND MARINES, THEY WATCH THEM. |
| 00:37:11 | THEY DO WHAT THEY DO AND FOLLOW THEIR MOVEMENTS. |
| 00:37:16 | THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE ALWAYS TRIED TO KEEP IN MIND. |
| 00:37:24 | IF SOMETHING HAPPENS UNEXPECTEDLY, THE MOST UNUSUAL AND UNEXPECTED THING USUALLY HAPPENS. |
| 00:37:35 | BECAUSE, AS CHRIS WAS SAYING, YOU ARE ATTACHED TO THAT. |
| 00:37:41 | IF YOU SUDDENLY GO RUNNING OFF IN THE OTHER DIRECTION, THEY WILL HAVE TO GO AND GET YOU. |
| 00:37:46 | YOU HAVE TO GO WHERE THEY GO, SOMETIMES IT IS NOT WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. |
| 00:37:53 | SOMETIMES THEY WANT TO GO RIGHT INTO THE FIGHT. |
| 00:37:59 | THERE ARE CERTAIN COURSES OFFERING TRAINING FOR THESE KIND OF THINGS. |
| 00:38:09 | THE REAL FIELD EXPERIENCE, THAT IS WHY IS IMPORTANT. |
| 00:38:18 | ABOUT TO JUMP INTO THE BIG AND COMPLEX RIGHT AWAY, TO START OFF WITH LOWER LEVEL COMPLEX AND AT LEAST GET SOME OF THAT EXPERIENCE AND AWARENESS ABOUT HOW THESE THINGS WORK. |
| 00:38:34 | >> A LOWER LEVEL CONFLICT THAT I COVERED WAS A VOTE OF REST. |
| 00:38:38 | I WAS WITH -- WAS CIVIL UNREST. |
| 00:38:43 | I SMELLED SOMETHING, IT WAS EMBERS IN MY HAIR. |
| 00:38:54 | I SAID TO THE PHOTOGRAPHER, THEY PAY YOU TO GET CLOSE, THEY PAID ME TO GET THE STORY. |
| 00:39:00 | SO I WENT TO TALK TO THE FIRE FIGHTERS. |
| 00:39:04 | HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH? |
| 00:39:08 | WHEN DOES A GOOD PICTURE TAKE OVER FROM SAVING YOUR HIDE? |
| 00:39:13 | >> REPORTERS, WE NEED TO BE THERE. |
| 00:39:16 | VERY NEAR, SOMETIMES. |
| 00:39:20 | THAT IS MORE RISKY. |
| 00:39:22 | BUT YOU'RE ASKING WHEN WE FEEL IT'S REALLY DANGEROU. |
| 00:39:29 | S. |
| 00:39:31 | IN SYRIA, DAYS BEFORE THE ARMY LAUNCHED A BIG ATTACK. |
| 00:39:39 | THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT NOT SHOWING THEIR FACE, THEY WANT TO COVER THEIR FACES. |
| 00:39:51 | IT WAS DANGEROUS, BUT CALM. |
| 00:39:55 | THEY FORGOT ABOUT YOU. |
| 00:39:58 | I TOOK ALL THE PICTURES. |
| 00:40:02 | YOU FEEL THE DANGER THERE BECAUSE THEY WERE QUIET AND RUNNING. |
| 00:40:09 | YOU CAN FEEL AT THAT MOMENT, THINGS ARE REALLY GETTING CLOSER. |
| 00:40:16 | SOMETIMES YOU UNDERSTAND THE DANGER WHEN YOU SEE FACES OF PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PHOTOGRAPH. |
| 00:40:28 | IN THEIR TERMS, YOU CAN SEE IT IN THEIR FACE. |
| 00:40:40 | >> IS IT HARD TO STOP SHOOTING AT TIMES? |
| 00:40:43 | >> IT IS. |
| 00:40:45 | BUT WITH EXPERIENCE, YOU LEARN TO STOP. |
| 00:40:50 | I HAVE DONE INCREDIBLY STUPID THINGS IN MY LIFE, AND I HAVE BEEN LUCKY. |
| 00:40:56 | THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR THIS ELEMENT OF COMPETITION IN THE FIELD. |
| 00:41:06 | IT CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS. |
| 00:41:09 | AND YOU HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GO BACK. |
| 00:41:17 | WHEN JIM AND CHRIS WERE KILLED, CHRI WASS WAS A VERY OLD FRIEND OF MINE. |
| 00:41:26 | WE'D KNOWN HIM FOR YEARS. |
| 00:41:31 | HE WAS DONE FOR THE DAY. |
| 00:41:33 | THEY GOT HARD-CORE PICTURES OF FIGHTING THAT DAY. |
| 00:41:38 | HE TALKED TO HIS FIANCEE ON THE PHONE, WE MIGHT JUST WANDERED OUT TO THE PORT. |
| 00:41:45 | -- WANDER DOWN TO THE PORT. |
| 00:41:50 | OTHER PHOTOGRAPHERS WANTED TO GO BACK AND WANTED TO GET A PICTURE. |
| 00:41:54 | THIS GROUP MENTALITY TAKES OVER. |
| 00:41:58 | WHAT IF THEY GO AND THEY GET SOMETHING? |
| 00:42:01 | HE JUMPS IN THE TRUCK AND GET KILLED IN OUR LATER. |
| 00:42:06 | -- GETS KILLED AN HOUR LATER. |
| 00:42:10 | NOT HAVING THE PRESSURE FROM YOUR EDITORS, SO AND SO GOT THIS PICTURE AND YOU DIDN'T. |
| 00:42:19 | ANYONE IN THOSE PLACES, IT IS REALLY DANGEROUS AND SOMETIMES IT IS NOT AS CLEAR FROM THE HOME BASE. |
| 00:42:28 | IF YOU SEE A PICTURE OF A GUY FIRING A GUN, GETTING TO THAT PLACE WAS PROBABLY 10 TIMES MORE DANGEROUS. |
| 00:42:41 | YOU NEVER KNOW WHERE ROCK IS GOING TO HIT. |
| 00:42:49 | THE ARABS SPRING CONTINUES TO GO ON. |
| 00:42:54 | IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOT HAVE THE PRESSURE TO HAVE THAT PICTURE OR STORY BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE HAS IT. |
| 00:43:11 | THE STAKES ARE TOO HIGH RIGHT NOW. |
| 00:43:14 | >> CHRIS, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT RISK ASSESSMENT OF YOUR CHOOSING WHETHER OR NOT TO GO INTO AN AREA TO GET A PARTICULAR STORY. |
| 00:43:30 | >> YOU THINK YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THE READERS WITH YOUR DAY, YOU PURSUE YOUR DAY THAT WAY. |
| 00:43:37 | I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. |
| 00:43:44 | TRUSTING YOUR PEOPLE IN THE FIELD. |
| 00:43:56 | I WILL GIVE YOU A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE. |
| 00:44:01 | WE WERE ROLLING ALL THATDAY, A CLASSIC AFGHAN FIRE FIGHT WITH HIS PLATOON WAS PUSHING TO MILES BEYOND WHERE THEY WERE NORMALLY GOING. |
| 00:44:17 | THERE WERE PROBABLY FIVE OR SIX WORKING A PLATOON. |
| 00:44:21 | THEY WOULD SHOOT AT THEM, EVERYONE WOULD SCATTER INTO BUILDINGS AND COLLAR AROUND. |
| 00:44:29 | -- CRAWL AROUND. |
| 00:44:30 | KIDS WOULD COME OUT AND BEAT THE SHEEP OUT OF THE WAY AND THE FIREFIGHT WOULD START AGAIN. |
| 00:44:42 | A GUY GOT SHOT. |
| 00:44:46 | IT WAS AN IMPORTANT TIME IN MAY OF 2010. |
| 00:44:52 | THERE WERE 20,000 MARINES IN THIS PROVINCE, IT WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT FIGHTING SEASON. |
| 00:45:00 | -- A BAD FIGHTING SEASON. |
| 00:45:04 | WE KNEW SOME OF THESE GUYS, WE HAD THAT IN FIREFIGHTS EARLIER IN THE YEAR. |
| 00:45:13 | -- OR WE HAD THAT IN FIREFIGHTS EARLIER IN THE YEAR. |
| 00:45:25 | BEEN IN FIREFIGHTS EARLIER IN THE YEAR. |
| 00:45:27 | THERE WERE USUAL QUESTIONS LIKE TIMING, AND I HAVE BEEN KILLED, WE WANTED TO TAKE PICTURES OF -- A GUY A GUY HAD BEEN KILLED AND WE WANTED TO TAKE PICTURES OF HIS MEMORIAL. |
| 00:45:48 | IF WE WALK INTO THE WIRE, THERE WAS ANOTHER PATROL OUT. |
| 00:45:52 | THERE IS A TREE-LINED,, WE BOTH FELT THE URGE TO BE OUT THERE ON THE PATROL. |
| 00:46:02 | LOOK AT THE PICTURES ON THE DISK. |
| 00:46:07 | WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS THING LIKE IT IS OUR JOB TO BE HERE. |
| 00:46:27 | WE HAVEN'T EVEN VIOLENT WHAT WE GOT. |
| 00:46:30 | I THINK THERE IS A VALUE GOING DOWN THERE. |
| 00:46:36 | IF WE ARE GOING TO GET HER, THE GUY WHO DOESN'T GET HURT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE FAMILY IS WHYIES WHY. |
| 00:46:46 | IF WE GO OUT ON THE PATROL, WHAT DO WE TELL THE PAPER HA? |
| 00:46:55 | ? WHAT DO I TELL BILL. |
| 00:47:00 | ? THAT IS A REALLY IMPORTANT MATRIX. |
| 00:47:03 | THERE IS JOURNALISM AT OTHER THINGS GOING INTO IT. |
| 00:47:07 | THE PHOTOGRAPHERS ARE OUT THERE WORKING THE DOTTED LINE. |
| 00:47:10 | YOU HAVE TO TRUST THEM TO KNOW WHEN TO BACK OUT. |
| 00:47:17 | IT WOULD ALSO HAVE BEEN A DISTRACT THEM. |
| 00:47:24 | -- A BEEN A DISTRACTION. |
| 00:47:28 | WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS CALCULUS EVERY DAY OUT THERE. |
| 00:47:37 | I DON'T NEED TO GO UP TO THAT INTERSECTION OF BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT IS UP THERE AND I MAY NOT COME BACK. |
| 00:47:46 | >> SOMETIMES, I AM THE KIND OF GUY THAT SAYS, WE NEED TO GO. |
| 00:47:53 | DODGE THAT IS WHAT WE WERE GOING THROUGH THAT NIGHT, WE WERE SITTING THERE. |
| 00:47:59 | IT IS LIKE A LIGHT SHOW AT SUNSET, ONLY A FEW FIELD THE WAY, A QUICK WALK. |
| 00:48:06 | WE SAY WE ARE OUT A LOT, WE ARE. |
| 00:48:11 | WHEN YOU RUN A GOOD MARINE UNIT OR A GOOD ARMY UNITS, THOSE GUYS HAVE BEEN LIVING IN A YEAR AT A TIME. |
| 00:48:18 | THEY ARE VERY RELAXED ABOUT IT. |
| 00:48:22 | YOU CAN FALL INTO THAT STATE OF MIND. |
| 00:48:26 | AND YOU HAVE CONSTANT CHECKS AND BALANCES TO PULL THEMSELVES BACK. |
| 00:48:39 | IT BECOMES MORE MANAGEABLE. |
| 00:48:42 | YOU HAVE THE MANAGERS OF EVEN MORE INTENSELY. |
| 00:48:51 | -- YOU HAVE TO MANAGE YOURSELF EVEN MORE INTENSELY. |
| 00:48:57 | >> FROM THE NEWS ROOM, PHOTOGRAPHING, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO WAIT TO BLOG. |
| 00:49:03 | DOES IT MAKE YOU A BETTER PHOTOGRAPHER TO HAVE THAT CONSTANT PRESSURE TO PRODUCE, OR DOES IT GET IN THE WAY OF DOING A MORE IN-DEPTH JOB? |
| 00:49:13 | >> A TWEET, FACEBOOK POST OR BLOG IS AS GOOD AS THE CONTENT. |
| 00:49:22 | IF THIS IS GOOD, IT MAKES YOU BETTER, IF IT IS GARBAGE, IT IS A WASTE OF TIME. |
| 00:49:33 | ONLY SUNDAYS DOES THAT SPARKLE. |
| 00:49:34 | I THINK THAT WE OBSESS OF LITTLE TOO MUCH OF THE TOOLS MAKE YOU BETTER OR NOT. |
| 00:49:41 | WE HAVE THE TOOLS, BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH, IT NEEDS TO BE GOOD. |
| 00:49:49 | NOBODY WANTS TO BE THE BORING NEWSPAPER LIKE NOBODY WANTS TO READ A BORING TWEET. |
| 00:49:57 | >> MULTIMEDIA CONTENT IS MORE -- FOUR STILL PHOTOGRAPHERS TO SHOOT A VIDEO, WRITE SOMETHING, IT GETS TOO MUCH. |
| 00:50:15 | YOU HAVE TO KNOW YOUR LIMITS. |
| 00:50:18 | I DON'T DO A LOT OF THAT KIND OF STUFF. |
| 00:50:23 | YOU CAN KIND OF KEEP YOUR BARE DROP -- TO YOUR BARE JOB. |
| 00:50:30 | IF SOME PEOPLE CAN SPLIT UP THEIR SKILLS MORE, I AM NOT GREAT AT STANDING OUT. |
| 00:50:39 | >> THE MOMENT, YOU HAVE SECONDS TO TAKE A PICTURE. |
| 00:50:45 | YOU DON'T HAVE 10 ROR 20 DIFFERENT MOMENTS. |
| 00:50:53 | YOU HAVE TWO OR THREE MOMENTS IN A DAY. |
| 00:51:06 | [INAUDIBLE] NOT IN A PERFECT WAY, BUT THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. |
| 00:51:12 | IT IS DIFFICULT. |
| 00:51:15 | FOR ME, I NEVER RECEIVED ANY PRESSURE. |
| 00:51:23 | THE PRESSURE IS AT LEAST MINE. |
| 00:51:31 | I WANT TO SHOW THE STORY IN THE BEST WAY. |
| 00:51:36 | I WANT TO GO AGAIN AND AGAIN. |
| 00:51:39 | AND SOMETIMES THESE GUYS STOP YOU. |
| 00:51:44 | TYLER, YOU WERE ONCE INTERVIEWED BY CHRIS. |
| 00:51:49 | HE ASKED YOU HOW IT HAS CHANGED YOU PERSONALLY, SMOKING, DRINKING, EXERCISE? |
| 00:52:02 | >> CHRIS EXPOSED A LOT OF MY HISTORY ON THAT ONE. |
| 00:52:05 | THE PROBABLY TOOK IT EASY ON ME. |
| 00:52:11 | IF YOU ARE GOING OUT INTO PLACE, YOU HAVE TO BE HEALTHY. |
| 00:52:18 | YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO STAY UP WITH -- I AM 42 YEARS OLD, YOU GO OUT ON PATROL WITH THESE GUYS THAT ARE BETWEEN 18 AND 25 YEARS OLD. |
| 00:52:32 | YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THESE GUYS. |
| 00:52:38 | SOMETIMES IT IS STRAIGHT OF ABOUT 10 OR HAVING TO RUN 300 METERS. |
| 00:52:44 | -- STRAIGHT UP A MOUNTAIN OR HAVING TO RUN 300 METERS. |
| 00:52:49 | THERE ARE NO -- CHRIS AND I BOTH RUN, GO TO THE GYM. |
| 00:52:59 | WE HOPE THAT THE YOUNG GUYS AROUND US SMOKE A LOT AND HAVE SLOWED THEMSELVES OUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. |
| 00:53:12 | IT HAS CHANGED ME A LOT, AND NOT JUST THE PHYSICAL STUFF. |
| 00:53:18 | BUT THE WAY THAT YOU VALUE LIFE, FRIENDS GET HURT, GET KILLED, YOU LEARN TO VALUE LIFE MORE. |
| 00:53:34 | EVERY TIME I GO HOME, I SPENT TIME WITH MY PARENTS, MY FRIENDS. |
| 00:53:40 | YOU REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE, ESPECIALLY HOW PEOPLE ARE LIVING. |
| 00:53:46 | LIBYA AND SYRIA THIS YEAR, THE WAY THAT PEOPLE LIVE THERE ARE ATROCIOUS. |
| 00:53:58 | I THINK, I AM REALLY LUCKY. |
| 00:54:06 | YOUR PHYSICAL MENTAL HEALTH ARE THE OF IMPORTANT THINGS THAT YOU HAVE. |
| 00:54:14 | >> YOU JUST DEBUNEKDKED THE MYTH OF THE HARD DRINKING, HARD SMOKING WAR CORRESPONDENT. |
| 00:54:28 | >> I HAD MY SLEEPING BAG, SOLDIERS WERE HELPING ME. |
| 00:54:32 | NOW I HAVE BECOMED MORE DISCIPLINE. |
| 00:54:39 | D. |
| 00:54:40 | I HAVE THE CORRECT BOX, AND I'M NOT BOTHERING ANYBODY. |
| 00:54:47 | I CAN WORK MYSELF. |
| 00:54:49 | ALSO, I HAVE TO BE FIT. |
| 00:54:56 | IF YOU HAVE TO WALK OF 40 DEGREES, AND YOU CAN'T DO IT, ARE YOU KILLED IN SYRIA OR THE SOLDIERS IN AFGHANISTAN? |
| 00:55:15 | YOU HAVE A NO-LOSING PERSPECTIVE. |
| 00:55:33 | [INAUDIBLE] I'M THINKING THAT THINGS CAN BE REALLY WORSE. |
| 00:55:39 | THIS IS NOT SO BAD. |
| 00:55:41 | >> I THINK YOU SAID THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT NOT JUST FOR YOUR WELL-BEING BUT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE WITH THAT YOU ARE FEIT. |
| 00:55:52 | SO THAT YOU DON'T PUT ANYONE ELSE IN DANGER. |
| 00:55:56 | >> IF SOMEONE HAS TO DIVERT THEIR RESOURCES, TIME, AND ATTENTION TO HELP YOU, AND SOMETHING HAPPENS ON THAT CONTROL, YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT. |
| 00:56:09 | YOU REPRESENT THE INDUSTRY, YOUR NEWSPAPER, YOUR WIRE SERVICE, MAGAZINE, A NETWORK. |
| 00:56:18 | YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE IMPRESSION OF BEING A SERIOUS HUMAN BEING. |
| 00:56:23 | WHETHER IT IS LIBYA AND REBELS OR SYRIA REBELS OR CHECHNYAN GUNMEN, YOU HAD BETTER BE ABLE TO MAKE IT. |
| 00:56:36 | YOU BETTER NOT SLOW THEM DOWN OR NEED HELP. |
| 00:56:39 | IF YOU GET HURT, YOU ARE PART OF IT AND YOU WILL GET THE HELL, BUT YOU BETTER NOT NEED ATTENTION BECAUSE YOU CAN'T KEEP UP. |
| 00:56:51 | I WONDERED WHETHER I WOULD GET OUT OF THIS BEAT. |
| 00:56:54 | I OFTEN THINK, THE FIRST PATROL I LAG ON WILL BE THE DAY THAT I STOPPED, OR IF I GET HURT. |
| 00:57:06 | I DON'T THINK I COULD FACE MYSELF IF I KNEW THAT I SLOWED A PATROL DOWN. |
| 00:57:13 | IF YOU GO OUT THERE LIKE TYLER SAID, YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIFE HABITS. |
| 00:57:20 | YOU CAN'T SAY I'M GOING ON A SIX-HOUR PATROL TODAY. |
| 00:57:24 | YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU'RE COMING BACK. |
| 00:57:28 | THINGS ARE GOING ON AND ON. |
| 00:57:39 | YOU HAVE TO BE A BILL TOHANG -- BE ABLE TO HANG. |
| 00:57:44 | >> LIKE A FEW DAYS, ONE WEEK. |
| 00:57:48 | WE'RE SITTING IN SYRIA, WE WENT THOUGHROUGHT 40 METERS. |
| 00:57:58 | IF YOU'RE NOT FIT, YOU'RE RISKING YOURSELF AND THE GROUP. |
| 00:58:08 | IT CAN BE DANGER NOT ONLY FOR YOUR LIFE, BUT FOR ALL OF IT. |
| 00:58:15 | >> I KNOW THAT THERE MUST BE SOME QUESTIONS. |
| 00:58:18 | DO WE HAVE A MICROPHONE HERE? |
| 00:58:24 | >> I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION OF ROD FOURRIGO MO -- OF RODRIGO MOSTLY. |
| 00:58:33 | SOME NEWSPAPERS RAN THE NAME OF THE BOY AND HIS FATHER'S NAME, SOME DID NOT. |
| 00:58:44 | JUST DESCRIBING IT IN GENERAL TERMS. |
| 00:58:47 | I WONDER IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THOSE KINDS OF SPECIFICS AND WHETHER YOU THINK THEY ARE IMPORTANT, AND WHETHER THEY ARE IMPORTANT IN HUMANIZING THE SITUATION. |
| 00:59:00 | AND WHETHER THAT MATTERS. |
| 00:59:05 | >> EACH SITUATION IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. |
| 00:59:09 | BECAUSE YOU WRITE THE NAME OF THE PERSON WHOSE PICTURE IS GOING TO RISK THEIR LIVES, YOU DON'T DO IT. |
| 00:59:20 | THERE WERE EXAMPLES AND SYRIA, IT WAS THERE PHASE AT THEIR NAMES. |
| 00:59:27 | YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THAT. |
| 00:59:32 | YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO RESPECT THAT. |
| 00:59:40 | IF SOMEBODY READS MY NAME, THEY ARE GOING TO KILL ME. |
| 00:59:46 | IF SOMEONE LOOKS AT MY PICTURE, THEY WILL KILL MY RELATIVES. |
| 00:59:51 | YOU HAVE TO RESPECT PEOPLE YOU'RE TAKING PICTURES OF. |
| 00:59:58 | THAT'S NOT ONLY A PROFESSIONAL THING, IT IS A HUMAN THING. |
| 01:00:06 | IN TERMS OF THAT PICTURE, I DON'T THINK THERE WERE ANY PROBLEMS RIDING THE NAME OF THE LITTLE BOY -- WRITING THE NAME OF THE LITTLE BOY. |
| 01:00:22 | I DON'T THINK IT WAS A PROBLEM. |
| 01:00:30 | >> [INAUDIBLE] >> THERE ARE CASES WHERE IF YOU DO IT, EVEN IF YOU THINK IT IS CORRECT, YOU ARE REALLY PUTTING INTO REAL DANGER THE LIFE OF THAT PERSON. |
| 01:00:45 | >> WE WITHHOLD NAMES ALL THE TIME IF WE THINK THAT LIVES ARE IN JEOPARDY. |
| 01:00:52 | IT IS NOT EVERY DAY, BUT IT IS NOT UNCOMMON. |
| 01:00:56 | THERE WAS AN INFORMANT IN FORMING AGAINST THE PRESIDENT OF CHECHNYA. |
| 01:01:03 | WE WAITED UNTIL THEY GOT THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS OUT OF CHECHNYA AND OUT OF RUSSIA. |
| 01:01:10 | A LOT OF TIMES, YOU HAVE TO LOOK TO YOUR CONSCIENCE, NOT JUST THAT YOUR -- AT YOUR SCOOP. |
| 01:01:19 | >> YES, SIR. |
| 01:01:20 | >> I'M THE FORMER EDITOR OF THE AUSTIN AMERICAN STATESMAN. |
| 01:01:29 | YOU TALK ABOUT BATTLE COVERAGE VERY APPROPRIATELY. |
| 01:01:35 | MY QUESTION IS MORE TOWARD THE BROAD, OVERARCHING STORY OF WHAT THIS MEANS, HOW AND WHY OF THE STORY. |
| 01:01:43 | IT SEEMS TO ME THAT YOU DO THAT MUCH MORE, SUMMING UP THE PATHWAY OF A NATION AND ITS BATTLE. |
| 01:01:55 | CULTURAL SHIFTS, STRATEGIC ISSUES THAT ARE PRETTY HARD TO PIN DOWN. |
| 01:02:04 | YOU ARE DOING THAT STORY AMID CHAOS. |
| 01:02:09 | YOU ONLY HAVE ONE OR TWO OR THREE SETS OF TIES RATHER THAN VAST PLATOONS OF REPORTERS OR PHOTOGRAPHERS. |
| 01:02:17 | YOUR RESOURCES CAN BE GOOD SOURCES, BUT THEY CAN BE BAD, TOO. |
| 01:02:25 | HOW DIFFERENT IS IT COMING UP WITH THE HOWL AND WHY STORY -- HWOW AND SHYWHY STORY? |
| 01:02:36 | WHEN DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE IT? |
| 01:02:39 | WHEN YOU COME TO GRIPS WITH THAT? |
| 01:02:45 | >> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE PATHWAY OF THE NATION, DO YOU TALK ABOUT THE NATION'S IN WHICH WE ARE WORKING OR THIS NATION? |
| 01:02:53 | >> [INAUDIBLE] >> I WOULD LIKE TO POP THE BALLOON HERE. |
| 01:03:00 | WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO AS IF IT IS FASCINATING AND IMPORTANT. |
| 01:03:06 | IT IS A SMALLER PART OF A MUCH LARGER ENTERPRISE. |
| 01:03:12 | WE COVER FIELD HOSPITALS, REBELS, FRONT LINES, OR LIVE BACK FROM THE FRONT, HOW IT IS AFFECTED. |
| 01:03:25 | THE WAY THAT YOU COVER A WAR IS NOT JUST TO GO TO THE FRONTLINE. |
| 01:03:30 | YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE CEMETERY, THE MOSQUE, THE CHURCH, THE CONGRESS, TRACKING WHAT CANDIDATES ARE SAYING. |
| 01:03:43 | YOU HAVE TO HAVE REPORTERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT POINT TO THE EXTENT IT IS POSSIBLE. |
| 01:03:50 | IT'S NOT REALLY POSSIBLE WITH THE TALIBAN AT THIS POINT. |
| 01:03:58 | I DON'T THINK THAT I HAVE TO WRITE A STORY THAT DEFIED THE DECADE OF WAR. |
| 01:04:06 | I DON'T TAKE THAT AS POSSIBLE. |
| 01:04:07 | I THINK I WOULD LOOK BACK ON IT AND LAUGH AT. |
| 01:04:13 | EVERYBODY'S WORK FITS IN WITH EVERYBODY ELSE'S. |
| 01:04:15 | YOU MAKE THIS GREAT BIG MOSAIC. |
| 01:04:20 | SOME DAYS I HAVE TO BACK UP AND PROVIDE SOME OF THE MORE BROADER VIEWS. |
| 01:04:29 | SOMETIMES THE EDITORS ASKED FOR IT, SOMETIMES I FEEL IT IN MY BONES. |
| 01:04:33 | YOU GET A POINT OF VIEW. |
| 01:04:38 | ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS. |
| 01:04:42 | SOMETIMES IT FINDS ITS WAY INTO MY COPY. |
| 01:04:47 | SOMETIMES IT IS A MAGAZINE PIECE. |
| 01:04:50 | BUT I TRY TO KEEP IN PERSPECTIVE. |
| 01:04:53 | I DON'T THINK THAT AT THE END OF MY CAREER, MY BODY OF WORK IS GOING TO TELL YOU THAT MUCH. |
| 01:05:03 | I HOPE IT WILL ANSWER THE QUESTION YOU SAID. |
| 01:05:08 | YOU CAN'T SWING FOR THE FENCES EVERY DAY. |
| 01:05:14 | >> [INAUDIBLE] >> IT TELLS A BIG STORY, THANK YOU. |
| 01:05:19 | BUT IT DOESN'T TELL THE ENTIRE STORY. |
| 01:05:23 | I RELY ON THOSE THAT DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY. |
| 01:05:27 | I AM REALLY GLAD THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DO IT WELL. |
| 01:05:31 | I REMEMBER IN THE MARINE CORPS, I WAS COMMITTED TO IT. |
| 01:05:36 | HOW DOES ERIC SCHMIDT KNOW THINGS ABOUT THE MARINE CORPS THAT I DON'T KNOW. |
| 01:05:45 | IT WAS REALLY GOOD, IT WAS REALLY TRUE. |
| 01:05:48 | I WAS IN THAT CULTURE, AND HE WAS ADDING TO MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT. |
| 01:05:53 | IF YOU HAVE A GOOD PICTURE OR A GOOD STORY, YOU CAN INCREASE THE READER'S UNDERSTANDING A NOTCH, THAT'S GREAT. |
| 01:06:02 | THREE NOTCHES INS INCREDIBLE. |
| 01:06:07 | RE-ORDER THE WORLD WITH ONE STORY, I CAN'T DO THAT. |
| 01:06:12 | >> BILL WITH USA TODAY. |
| 01:06:16 | THE LEAD STORY IN THE TIMES THIS MORNING IS THE U. |
| 01:06:21 | S. JOINT EFFORT TO EQUIP AND PAY REBELS IN SYRIA. |
| 01:06:23 | BASED ON YOUR TIME AND EXPERIENCE, WHAT IS THE NATURE AND CAPABILITY OF THIS OPPOSITION THAT AMERICA IS NOW SUPPORTING? |
| 01:06:38 | >> HAVING SPENT A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME IN LIBYA AT THE BEGINNING OF THAT CONFLICT, SOMETHING I CAN SAY ABOUT THE ABILITIES, SOMETHING THAT I TOUCHED DODD AND THE ARTICLE THAT I WROTE FOR THE PAPER -- TOUCHED ON IN THE ARTICLE THAT I WROTE FOR THE PAPER. |
| 01:07:01 | YOU HAVE DEFECTORS FROM TH E SYRIAN ARMY. |
| 01:07:10 | THEY ARE SMALL IN NUMBER, BUT THEY ARE SKILLED, MILITARY PEOPLE. |
| 01:07:18 | IT MAY NOT LOOK DIFFERENT FROM A BUNCH OF GUYS WITH WEAPONS RUNNING AROUND THE FIELD. |
| 01:07:24 | WHEN YOU WERE THERE, THE ORGANIZATION AND SKILLS THAT IS MUCH HIGHER -- AND SKILL SET IS MUCH HIGHER. |
| 01:07:33 | WHEN THEY GET MONEY AND WEAPONS, WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE HEARD THAT THEY ARE ABOUT TO GET, IT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE THEIR ABILITY A LOT HIGHER, BUT IT WILL CAUSE A MUCH BIGGER FLOOD OF DEFECTIONS. |
| 01:07:52 | I THINK THAT THEY WILL HAVE AN IMPACT. |
| 01:07:59 | AND REFLECTING WHAT ANTHONY SAID, THE HOUR BEFORE HE DIED, I WAS STANDING NEXT TO HIM WHEN THE PEOPLE THAT WERE HELPING US DID A LITTLE INTERVIEW, YOU ARE ABOUT TO HEAD TO THE BORDERS WITH SUNSET. |
| 01:08:24 | THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LAST QUESTION THAT ANYONE ASKED HIM . |
| 01:08:31 | DO YOU THINK THAT WE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL? |
| 01:08:34 | DO YOU THINK WE WILL WIN THIS WAR? |
| 01:08:36 | HE SAID, I DO. |
| 01:08:38 | I THINK YOU WILL BE SUCCESSFUL, BUT IT WILL TAKE A VERY LONG TIME. |
| 01:08:45 | >> I THINK IT IS FITTING THAT WE AND WITH ANTHONY'S LAST WORDS. |
| 01:08:52 | I APPRECIATE THE SERVICE THAT YOU DO, I VALUE THE WORK THAT YOU DO, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR GENEROUS DONATION OF TIME TODAY. |
| 01:09:11 | [APPLAUSE] HOST[CAPTIONING PERFORMED BY NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE] |
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| 01:09:17 | 2012] |
| 01:09:27 | >> THANK YOU AGAIN, VERY MUCH, FOR THAT. |
| 01:09:32 | A REMINDER AS WE WERE WATCHING THE PANEL, OCCASIONALLY I WRITE ABOUT A FREE PRESS OR THE ROLE OF JOURNALISTS. |
| 01:09:39 | WE KNOW THAT WE MAKE MISTAKES AND AT TIMES, WE DESERVE CRITICISM. |
| 01:09:45 | THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE MOUTHING THE OF KNOWING REPUTATION. |
| 01:09:50 | THE NEXT TIME I GET ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE ON THE LINE, I WILL PLAY THEM THIS DAY AND TELL THEM WHAT A JOURNALIST DOES. |
| 01:09:58 | WE WILL TAKE A BRIEF 3 MINUTE OR FOUR MINUTE BREAK. |
| 01:10:03 | WE WILL COME BACK IN A SALUTE SOME OF THE BEST OF THE PROFESSION. |
| 01:10:08 | JOIN US IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS, PLEASE. |
| 01:10:29 | >> WE WILL HAVE MORE FROM THIS THREE-DAY AMERICAN SOCIETY OF NEWS EDITORS' CONFERENCE TOMORROW. |
| 01:10:36 | PRESIDENT OBAMA IS GIVING A KEYNOTE ADDRESS ABOUT THE 2013 FEDERAL BUDGET PROPOSAL AND HOW IS DIFFERENT FROM THE REPUBLICAN PLAN THAT PASSED THE HOUSE LAST WEEK. |
| 01:10:46 | WE WILL HAVE THE PRESIDENT LIVE AT 12:15 P. |
| 01:10:51 | M. EASTERN HERE ON C- SPAN. |
| 01:10:53 | YET TODAY, THE PRESIDENT BOASTED A NORTH AMERICAN SUMMIT WITH MEXICAN PRESIDENT CALDERON AND STEPHEN HARPER. |
| 01:11:03 | WE WILL SHOW YOU THE REMARKS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE AT ABOUT 25 MINUTES. |
| 01:11:08 | AND ALSO AT PRIMETIME TONIGHT AT ABOUT |
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