| 00:00:02 | EYE-OPENER. |
| 00:00:03 | AND SO ON MY RETURN, WE HAVE APPOINTED A PERSON TO COORDINATE AND REACH OUT TO TO DOJ AND IN PARTICULAR TO THE U. |
| 00:00:10 | S. ATTORNEY IN PUERTO RICO WHO IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCAL SITUATION. |
| 00:00:13 | SO I THINK IT WILL TAKE ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER TO GET A HANDLE ON THIS TO GET THAT CRIME RATE DOWN AND THAT'S WHAT OUR INTENT IS. |
| 00:00:20 | >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I YIELD BACK. |
| 00:00:24 | >> THE GENTLEMAN FROM TEXAS, MR. |
| 00:00:30 | GOVERT IS RECOGNIZED. |
| 00:00:38 | WHEN YOU WERE HERE IN OCTOBER WE DISCUSSED THE GENTLEMAN ALVIERI AND HE WAS USING THE SECURITY CLEARANCE THAT YOU HAD GIVEN HIM AND HE WAS ON THE ADVISORY COUNCIL AND USED THAT TO ACCESS THE STATE AND LOCAL INTELLIGENCE CLASS 5 MATERIAL DATABASE AND DOWNLOADED MATERIAL AND WE HAD INFORMATION THAT HE HAD SHOPPED AT, TRYING TO CLAIM TEXAS WAS ISLAMOPHONE ISLAMO ISLAMOPHOBES BECAUSE THEY WERE CONSIDERED RADICAL ISLAMISTS. |
| 00:01:20 | YOU TOLD ME AT THAT TIME THAT YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK INTO IT. |
| 00:01:23 | YOU WEREN'T GOING TO APPOINT SOMEBODY. |
| 00:01:25 | YOU, YOURSELF, WERE GOING TO LOOK INTO IT. |
| 00:01:27 | SO WHAT DID YOU FIND OUT? |
| 00:01:29 | >> I FOUND OUT THAT THE STATEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THAT REGARD ARE FALSE. |
| 00:01:36 | THEY ARE MISLEADING, OBJECTIONABLE, AND I THINK THEY ARE WRONG. |
| 00:01:39 | >> MADAM, YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE LYING IN YOUR DEPARTMENT BECAUSE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY HAS BEEN TOLD THE INVESTIGATION WAS DONE. |
| 00:01:53 | HE DID ACCESS THE CLASSIFIED INFORMATION WITH HIS OWN PRIVATE COMPUTER. |
| 00:01:57 | HE DID DOWNLOAD THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE KNEW HE DID AND THE ONE THING THAT THEY COULD NOT CONFIRM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T TALK TO THE REPORTER OR THE PEOPLE THAT HE SHOPPED THE STORY TO THEY COULDN'T CONFIRM THAT THEY SHOPPED THE STORY, BUT ARE YOU SAYING TO CONGRESS RIGHT NOW THAT AS SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY THAT IT IS A LIE THAT MOHAMMED AL BIERI DOWNLOADED MATERIAL FROM A CLASSIFIED WEBSITE USING THE SECRET SECURITY CLEARANCE YOU GAVE HIM? |
| 00:02:33 | ARE YOU SAYING THAT'S A LIE? |
| 00:02:35 | >> I AM SAYING THAT ISN'T ACCURATE. |
| 00:02:37 | THAT IS CORRECT. |
| 00:02:38 | >> WHAT IS INACCURATE ABOUT THAT? |
| 00:02:40 | >> A NUMBER OF THINGS. |
| 00:02:43 | FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE HOMELAND SECURITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHO ARE MUSLIM. |
| 00:02:48 | THEY'VE BEEN HELPING LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR A LONG TIME. |
| 00:02:52 | MR. AL BIERI HIMSELF WAS RECOGNIZED BY THE FBI -- >> I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT -- TO CONFINE YOUR ANSWER TO WHAT I SAID AND WHAT YOU FIND MISLEADING IN IT. |
| 00:03:02 | >> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS I FIND MISLEADING IS THAT HE SOMEHOW DOWNLOADED CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. |
| 00:03:08 | >> SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE STATE AND LOCAL INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY OF INTEREST DATABASE IS NOT CLASSIFIED. |
| 00:03:15 | >> I'M SAYING THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW, DID NOT DOWNLOAD CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS. |
| 00:03:21 | >> ONE OF THE GAMES THAT GETS PLAYED SOMETIMES ABOUT PEOPLE WHO COME UP HERE AND TESTIFY IS THAT THEY HAVE SOMEBODY NOT PROVIDE THEM ADEQUATE INFORMATION SO THAT THEY CAN COME HERE AND SAY, SO FAR AS I KNOW, NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT KIND OF THING AND THEY OBSCURE THE TRUTH. |
| 00:03:38 | HAS AL BIARI'S STATUS ON THE COUNCIL CHANGED? |
| 00:03:44 | >> NO. |
| 00:03:45 | >> IT DID NOT BOTHER YOU THAT HE ACCESSED INFORMATION? |
| 00:03:50 | >> HE ACCESSED SOME INFORMATION. |
| 00:03:53 | WHAT BOTHERS ME, QUITE FRANKLY, ARE THE ALLEGATIONS THAT ARE MADE AGAINST ANYONE THAT HAPPENS TO BE MUSLIM. |
| 00:03:59 | >> WELL, THE ALLEGATIONS ARE NOT BECAUSE HE IS MUSLIM. |
| 00:04:03 | YOU FOLLOW ME AROUND THE WORLD YOU SEE ME HUGGING MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD BECAUSE THE ONCE I HUG ARE OUR FRIENDS AND THIS ADMINISTRATION SEEMS TO HAVE A HARD TIME RECOGNIZING MEMBERS OF TERRORIST GROUPS WHO ARE ALLOWED INTO THE WHITE HOUSE. |
| 00:04:18 | YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT HAPPENING, AREN'T YOU? |
| 00:04:20 | >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. |
| 00:04:23 | >> SO -- ALL RIGHT. |
| 00:04:25 | THE EVIDENCE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. |
| 00:04:27 | OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE KEPT IN THE DARK OF A LOT OF THESE THINGS. |
| 00:04:30 | >> ARE YOU AWARE OF WHAT THE FREEDOM AND JUSTICE PARTY IS IN EGYPT? |
| 00:04:37 | >> REPRESENTATIVE -- >> ARE YOU AWARE OF WHAT THE FREEDOM AND JUSTICE PARTY IS -- >> MR. |
| 00:04:43 | CHAIRMAN, COULD WE HAVE -- IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION THAT DOES NOT AFFORD AN INTERRUPTION -- IS SHE AWARE OF WHAT THE FREEDOM AND JUSTICE PARTY IS IN EGYPT? |
| 00:04:55 | >> WOULD THE SECRETARY RESPOND TO THE QUESTION? |
| 00:04:57 | >> YES. |
| 00:04:58 | >> ARE YOU AWARE THAT MR. |
| 00:05:00 | AL BIARI'S FOUNDATION THAT HAS NOW BEEN -- HAD THEIR CHARTER PULLED BECAUSE THEY FAILED TO PROVIDE THE INFORMATION THAT THE GOVERNMENT REQUIRES TO KEEP THEIR NC-3 STATUS. |
| 00:05:16 | ARE YOU AWARE BEFORE THE 501C-3 STATUS WAS PULLED CALLED THE JUSTICE FOUNDATION. |
| 00:05:22 | >>ENT RAIVE, I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO A DEBATE. |
| 00:05:25 | >> I'M ASKING YOU IF YOU KNOW SIMPLE FACTS. |
| 00:05:28 | >> I WOULD LIKE TO -- I WOULD LIKE TO -- >> YOU SAY YOU'RE NOT GOING GET INTO A DEBATE, I DON'T WANT TO DEBATE. |
| 00:05:35 | THIS IS A QUESTION AND ANSWER. |
| 00:05:36 | ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT BEING THE NAME OF HIS FOUNDATION THAT HAS NOW HAD THE 501C STATUS PULLED. |
| 00:05:47 | >> CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION? |
| 00:05:48 | >> THERE'S NO INSINUATION. |
| 00:05:50 | >> MR. |
| 00:05:51 | CHAIRMAN, CAN WE HAVE REGULAR ORDER AND WE'LL ALLOW THE WITNESS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, YES. |
| 00:05:56 | >> PLEASE ANSWER JUST THE QUESTION. |
| 00:06:00 | >> REPRESENTATIVE, WITH ALL RESPECT, I BELIEVE YOU ARE INSINUATING THAT I AND MEMBERS OF MY STAFF -- >> I AM NOT INSINUATING ANYTHING. |
| 00:06:10 | I AM ASKING A DIRECT QUESTION. |
| 00:06:12 | >> MR. |
| 00:06:13 | CHAIRMAN -- >> YOU ARE NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTION. |
| 00:06:16 | >> THE QUESTION IS VERY SIMPLE. |
| 00:06:18 | ARE YOU AWARE OF HIS FREEDOM AND JUSTICE FOUNDATION I DON'T THINK HE'S GOING TO GET A DIFRN ANSWER. |
| 00:06:27 | >> THEN I WOULD ASK THE ASSISTANCE OF THE CHAIRMAN TO DIRECT THE WITNESS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION AS ASKED. |
| 00:06:35 | IT'S VERY SIMPLE. |
| 00:06:36 | IT'S YES OR NO. |
| 00:06:37 | WAS SHE AWARE OR WAS SHE NOT? |
| 00:06:43 | AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY FOR THIS COMMITTEE -- >> THAT DOES WANT SOUND LIKE A YES OR NO. |
| 00:06:54 | IT'S NON-RESPONSIVE. |
| 00:06:55 | >> -- THE ANSWER IS NON-RESPONSIVE. |
| 00:06:58 | >> MADAM SECRETARY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? |
| 00:07:00 | >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS A COURT WITH RULES OF EVIDENCE. |
| 00:07:04 | I WAS HOPING I COULD EXPLAIN MY ANSWER. |
| 00:07:06 | >> DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED TO DO JUST THAT? |
| 00:07:09 | >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. |
| 00:07:10 | >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MY QUESTION WAS A YES OR NO -- >> MR. |
| 00:07:14 | CHAIRMAN, REGULAR ORDER. |
| 00:07:16 | >> -- YOU WILL ALLOW THE REASON -- >> -- AND THE REASON THERE ARE RULES OF EVIDENCE SO WITNESSES DON'T GO OFF ON THE LARK -- >> MR. |
| 00:07:25 | CHAIRMAN -- >> THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME HAS EXPIRED. |
| 00:07:28 | DOES THE WITNESS HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? |
| 00:07:30 | >> YES. |
| 00:07:31 | THIS COMMITTEE HAS A LONG AND PROUD TRADITION. |
| 00:07:34 | THESE KINDS OF INSINUATIONS DEMEAN THE COMMITTEE. |
| 00:07:37 | THE INSIN SITUATION THAT I OR MY STAFF WOULD ALLOW SOMEONE WHO IS A TERRORIST TO INFILTRATE -- >> I HAVE NOT INSINUATED THAT AL BIARI -- HE IS A VERY NICE GENTLEMAN. |
| 00:07:50 | I'VE MET HIM A COUPLE OF TIMES. |
| 00:07:52 | THERE IS NO SUCH INSINUATION AND THAT THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND -- >> -- MR. |
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